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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I truly wish i had that answer for you, but i dont. I can imagine that with the seediness of Omega, the gargantuan size of Illium, The expanse of the migrant and geth fleets, that there are thousands of stories to tell, just none on such a grand universal scale.


Exactly.

Could you imagine, say, a hybrid RPG/detective ME game where you start as C-Sec officer and try to figure out a crime and move onto trying to take down a crime sydicate that is taking advantage of the chaos after the Reaper invasion? The protaganist could be Turian, Asari or Human...political intrige...a more 'personal' look at the ME universe from someone who isn't a well known hero...

See Bioware...see the sort of things you might have been able to do in the ME universe? The ways you could have used it to experiment with new styles of games? Do you...oh, I'm sorry I'll wait for the $ signs in front of your eyes to fade away. Shouldn't take more than, oh, three or four years and bankruptcy....

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a one M.Sheilds has his own report

www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/marauder-shields-become-unsung-hero-of-mass-effect

all hail the saviour

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SE JN wrote...
I dislike greatly the new rumors.

Holding the line... with angst.


What rumors? What did I miss?

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Seival wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...
< likes this
http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

O M G

Don't let this continue, it has been proven niether true or false.

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toffeetrooper wrote...

a one M.Sheilds has his own report

www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/marauder-shields-become-unsung-hero-of-mass-effect

all hail the saviour



and his own website it seems

hisnamewasmaraudershields.tumblr.com/

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Cybermortis wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I truly wish i had that answer for you, but i dont. I can imagine that with the seediness of Omega, the gargantuan size of Illium, The expanse of the migrant and geth fleets, that there are thousands of stories to tell, just none on such a grand universal scale.


Exactly.

Could you imagine, say, a hybrid RPG/detective ME game where you start as C-Sec officer and try to figure out a crime and move onto trying to take down a crime sydicate that is taking advantage of the chaos after the Reaper invasion? The protaganist could be Turian, Asari or Human...political intrige...a more 'personal' look at the ME universe from someone who isn't a well known hero...

See Bioware...see the sort of things you might have been able to do in the ME universe? The ways you could have used it to experiment with new styles of games? Do you...oh, I'm sorry I'll wait for the $ signs in front of your eyes to fade away. Shouldn't take more than, of, three or four years and bankruptcy....


I honestly think the writer may have just got annoyed with always having to write about Sheppard.. and decided to kill them off.. most writers go through this phase... usually most realize how dumb and emotional a decision it is and end it there.. I suspect this one probably got carried away from the writer and grew legs lol.  I doubt the writer would have liked the ending if they had realized how much it disregarded the story to that point.

Bioware's actually looking for a new Lead Enviromental Artist in Edmonton.  Says in the posting they're currently working on "Mass Effect" universe.. doesn't say "Mass Effect 3".. which tells me it's beyond DLC (since that's only a year out and that would be a contract position).. so this isn't the last of the ME universe... They'll probably do other stories, future stories, other points of view.

Gordon Freeman was a scientist with a bad performance record... he became hero of earth in the Half Life series.  Half Life: Blue Shift is so much like the C-Sec idea.. I'd love to do this sort of thing... or a Mass Effect: Spectre... or Mass Effect: First Contact War...so many good titles that just elicit imagination for story arcs... they don't even have to be involving the reapers... there could be subtle hints about them.. so much to do.

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Sir Bum wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...

I was prepared to be forced to see Shepard have to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the galaxy. I wouldn't have liked it but I was prepared for it. I was even prepared to see the Normandy and crew die, or Earth be a devastated ruin. I wasn't prepared for what they did to the galactic civilization.


The ending makes me feel like everything Shepard and co. did, all they sacrificed, was for nothing. These endings don't count as victory. It's just trading one horrible fate (the Reapers) for another one (the collapse of civilization)


This is exactly what I was going to say. What LookingGlass describes would count as a "Bittersweet ending". What we got isn't so much "Bittersweet" as an utter failure, no matter what you do. Destroying the Mass Relays ensures that everyone (not to mention those stranded on other planets) will, quite truly, be "forever alone". Galactic society has been destroyed, just as surely as if the Reapers won. What kind of resolution is that?



Hm...I was not prepared to sacrifice Shepard in the process. I mean, I was expecting a choice that involved Shepard's death, but based on past Bioware games, I thought they would have a happier ending. 
Isn't ME about hope and unity? 
Even if you united everyone, there was no hope...All I did was for nothing :crying:

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GroverA125 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

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i wonder if this all just to make it so there is never a new ME game?


There never will be  new Shepard, but with a universe as big and diverse as this one is, the possiblities for new Mass Effects games are limitless, unless Bioware really screws it up again..

Only problem is that they ended it in such a way that means that means we can assume that every civilian who isn't Krogan and Quarian are dead, there are no relays, there's absolutely no fast-travel method readily available, and of course, virtually everyone is trapped in Sol, with very little land available and no nearby solar systems to live in. So frankly, it's going to be a dull new page for the franchise. Unless we win, of course.

It's a shame. Rannoch was so beautiful...


The salarians are the only surefire survivors. Not sure how you figure Krogan could survive, considering their only real planet is a nuclear wasteland which now has to deal with a population boom from lack of genophage. Oh, and they have no ships. 

And you're really throwing a hail mary assuming the Quarians are safe. They'd have to bring the liveships first of all, and then you'd have to hope they survived that battle. And even if they did, they could have fun fighting the turians who would (ugh) be starving at the time.

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Cybermortis wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I truly wish i had that answer for you, but i dont. I can imagine that with the seediness of Omega, the gargantuan size of Illium, The expanse of the migrant and geth fleets, that there are thousands of stories to tell, just none on such a grand universal scale.


Exactly.

Could you imagine, say, a hybrid RPG/detective ME game where you start as C-Sec officer and try to figure out a crime and move onto trying to take down a crime sydicate that is taking advantage of the chaos after the Reaper invasion? The protaganist could be Turian, Asari or Human...political intrige...a more 'personal' look at the ME universe from someone who isn't a well known hero...

See Bioware...see the sort of things you might have been able to do in the ME universe? The ways you could have used it to experiment with new styles of games? Do you...oh, I'm sorry I'll wait for the $ signs in front of your eyes to fade away. Shouldn't take more than, oh, three or four years and bankruptcy....


I would like to play another Spectre. one thats unfettered by the allianceand the citadel. One thats true to the original definition of spectres.  No, of course, the Citadel is gone so any any counsel would have to choose a different location to operate from.  There just happens to be a massive ship still hanging around however. Liara's ship. Its huge, and could act as a base for an interplanetary counsel to work from..

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

SE JN wrote...
I dislike greatly the new rumors.

Holding the line... with angst.


What rumors? What did I miss?


The 4chan scare.... Don't bother with it, its a load of bs.

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TamiBx wrote...

Hm...I was not prepared to sacrifice Shepard in the process. I mean, I was expecting a choice that involved Shepard's death, but based on past Bioware games, I thought they would have a happier ending. 
Isn't ME about hope and unity? 
Even if you united everyone, there was no hope...All I did was for nothing :crying:



I was fine sacrificing Counselor Udina... mind you my first playthrough I had to restart the mission, I actually pulled the trigger and shot him when he pulled out his gun... curse you bad renegade opportunity timing Image IPB

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People, I have a suggestion to make. If you have new ideas and a long post to state them, please make a separate thread and post a link to in this one. Like that your ideas don't get buried in this rapidly progressing monster of a thread and there's a better chance that your thoughts get discussed in their own right. I've already seen many great ideas posted on this thread which then disappeared without receiving the credit they deserve.

I think that a large number of threads in the forum index will make the movement seem more alive. We must make sure that it doesn't look like things have calmed down. If the forum remains full of threads that express our/your specific concerns, then it'll remain impossible to ignore us.

You should still post a link to your thread in this thread. Like that it'll remain on top and not get buried, and people who lurk here get the opportunity to catch some fresh air outside this thread.

Here's mine: http://social.biowar.../index/10598846

Hold the line.

#60713
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toffeetrooper wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

a one M.Sheilds has his own report

www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/marauder-shields-become-unsung-hero-of-mass-effect

all hail the saviour



and his own website it seems

hisnamewasmaraudershields.tumblr.com/


meh. sometimes i do wish that i would credit for **** i design. .__. damn, why did i even choose this profession. it's unrewarding as hell. buuut, on the other hand i'm quite glad it gets around. just glad i included some sort of watermark. 

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silencemayday wrote...

i rather like creation kids. even for games like mass effect i wouldn't see any harm coming from it. i mean the modding for dragon age origins went fine, didn't it?


I saw some very interesting mods for DA:O.  There was one where you could get a room at that inn in the main city and nail the hell out of your love interest.  I mean it was basically rated XXX but I liked it because if I wanted my warden and his girlfriend to hook it up, it was there in many ways.  

What I was really hoping for in ME3 was that if you were loyal to your ME LI in ME2, it would pull forward the romance subplot.  Then it would offer you the ability to kiss, cuddle or whatever with your LI whenever you want, kind of like how you could always ask Morrigan for more love in DA:O or even call up your LI after the end of ME2.

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Edit: For the leaked info thing that everyone is upset about...

Jessica pretty much disporved that it was true. If you go back on the thread you will see her twitter post that someone asked her which indicated she was not stressing over this rumor.

Modifié par Benathorn, 25 mars 2012 - 08:21 .


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I'll just leave this here for fun :)
http://www.awkwardzo...=0&comic=082211

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NobodyofConsequence wrote...

Pre-ordered Collector Edition ME3. Had high hopes based on the demo. Was away on work for two weeks after launch without the chance to play the game. Made a point of NOT browsing forum in case of spoilers. Returned home, spent three days solid playing. Noted instances of foreshadowing of a Shep sacrifice possibility. Got to the end almost without realising it was the end. Chose synthesis, as my canon Space-Jesushep would make that sacrifice for peace between synthetics and organics. Noted to self all the questions the game had not answered for me. Loaded from last save and replayed last sequence, chose Destroy ending. Frowned as that ended almost identically. Thought echoed in head: "Is that it?". All those hours of exploring permutations, encouraged by the actual game design of presenting those choices, and it matters not a wit.

Love MP, but I am unlikely to replay ME3 more than once or twice, in comparison to the hundreds of hours I've put in to ME1 and 2. Not nerd raging, but feel deflated. I've never anticipated a game so much in my life, for as long, and while I was not expecting this to be my perfect ending, this just missed the mark by so far for me, as to beggar belief.


Same story here. Pre-ordered ME3 Collector's Edition and avoided all spoilers at all costs while I spent months anticipating the end of such a great series. When I finished the game one fine Friday night, however, I spent the remainder of the weekend feeling depressed and apathetic. It was all so very anti-climatic. I went back to see if I chose the wrong ending, but it was exactly the same with a mundane color difference. 

It's absolutely terrible that such a great game could be so good for 98% and then have the ending utterly ruin any replayability and sense of accomplishment. 

I suppose what I was trying to say is, you are not alone, comrade. Hold the line. We cannot let space magic prevail. Image IPB

#60718
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Benathorn wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Seival wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...
< likes this
http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

O M G

Don't let this continue, it has been proven niether true or false.


Jessica pretty much disporved that it was true. If you go back on the thread you will see her twitter post that someone asked her which indicated she was not stressing over this
rumor.


Jessica basically just, without commenting on rumours, said it wasn't true.. she's 'slept peacefully'.. meaning no "Holy crap" phone calls at 3am... no "HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!"s.

Not to mention the original author's profile has a link to their website... full of FFVII fan fiction lol.. this is just someone whose story was taken or they posted themselves as a fake.

Move along. Nothing to see here. Image IPB

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Just re-watched the endings of ME 1 and 2, and it only reminded me of how the ball was dropped for ME 3 at the 1 yard line.  I played as a paragon in all the games for my main character, and enjoyed watching these end scenes again.

ME 1:   (male paragon)

ME 2:   (female paragon)

Hold the line.

#60720
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Computim wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Hm...I was not prepared to sacrifice Shepard in the process. I mean, I was expecting a choice that involved Shepard's death, but based on past Bioware games, I thought they would have a happier ending. 
Isn't ME about hope and unity? 
Even if you united everyone, there was no hope...All I did was for nothing :crying:



I was fine sacrificing Counselor Udina... mind you my first playthrough I had to restart the mission, I actually pulled the trigger and shot him when he pulled out his gun... curse you bad renegade opportunity timing Image IPB


Oh, I took that too. Letting Kaidan shoot Udina? I don't think so. I've always wanted to shoot him myself. Thank you, Bioware, for the opportunity :D

But honestly, I don't play 3 games just so Shepard can die in a stupid explosion(I get to pick the color!) no matter what I do...

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Computim wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I truly wish i had that answer for you, but i dont. I can imagine that with the seediness of Omega, the gargantuan size of Illium, The expanse of the migrant and geth fleets, that there are thousands of stories to tell, just none on such a grand universal scale.


Exactly.

Could you imagine, say, a hybrid RPG/detective ME game where you start as C-Sec officer and try to figure out a crime and move onto trying to take down a crime sydicate that is taking advantage of the chaos after the Reaper invasion? The protaganist could be Turian, Asari or Human...political intrige...a more 'personal' look at the ME universe from someone who isn't a well known hero...

See Bioware...see the sort of things you might have been able to do in the ME universe? The ways you could have used it to experiment with new styles of games? Do you...oh, I'm sorry I'll wait for the $ signs in front of your eyes to fade away. Shouldn't take more than, of, three or four years and bankruptcy....


I honestly think the writer may have just got annoyed with always having to write about Sheppard.. and decided to kill them off.. most writers go through this phase... usually most realize how dumb and emotional a decision it is and end it there.. I suspect this one probably got carried away from the writer and grew legs lol.  I doubt the writer would have liked the ending if they had realized how much it disregarded the story to that point.

Bioware's actually looking for a new Lead Enviromental Artist in Edmonton.  Says in the posting they're currently working on "Mass Effect" universe.. doesn't say "Mass Effect 3".. which tells me it's beyond DLC (since that's only a year out and that would be a contract position).. so this isn't the last of the ME universe... They'll probably do other stories, future stories, other points of view.

Gordon Freeman was a scientist with a bad performance record... he became hero of earth in the Half Life series.  Half Life: Blue Shift is so much like the C-Sec idea.. I'd love to do this sort of thing... or a Mass Effect: Spectre... or Mass Effect: First Contact War...so many good titles that just elicit imagination for story arcs... they don't even have to be involving the reapers... there could be subtle hints about them.. so much to do.



But Shep didn't have to die for sure, even if they wanted to end his saga. Just let him retire on Rannoch or something. A lot of possibilities from there on:

1. ME 4 is set 200 years later with Shep already dead.
2. ME 4 is set with Shep alive, but other than him being mentioned, he does not play any bigger role --> this is why we should have had different endings. One where he dies, and one where he lives.... it is easy to implement both scenarios without changing too much dialogue.
3. ME 4 is set with Shep alive, and the new main char gets to actually meet Shepard at some point.
4. Just like nr. 3, but Shep could also become a squadmate of the new main character, AND even be a romane option.


So, plenty of room for the writers... Sure, give us one or more possible ME3 endings where he dies, but gives us OTHER ENDINGS as well!!!

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TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Hm...I was not prepared to sacrifice Shepard in the process. I mean, I was expecting a choice that involved Shepard's death, but based on past Bioware games, I thought they would have a happier ending. 
Isn't ME about hope and unity? 
Even if you united everyone, there was no hope...All I did was for nothing :crying:



I was fine sacrificing Counselor Udina... mind you my first playthrough I had to restart the mission, I actually pulled the trigger and shot him when he pulled out his gun... curse you bad renegade opportunity timing Image IPB


Oh, I took that too. Letting Kaidan shoot Udina? I don't think so. I've always wanted to shoot him myself. Thank you, Bioware, for the opportunity :D

But honestly, I don't play 3 games just so Shepard can die in a stupid explosion(I get to pick the color!) no matter what I do...


No kidding.. I grit my teeth in ME1 when I nominated him for the council seat lol.

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When the texted was leaked in June we had hints of the 3 ending we now have right?
So my question is, I vaguely remember reading them in Oct., was the Apple app lying, saying that were thought up in late Nov. or Dec. I forget witch the app said the ending was made. Can anyone point to me to some clarification. Plz

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Benathorn wrote...
Jessica pretty much disporved that it was true. If you go back on the thread you will see her twitter post that someone asked her which indicated she was not stressing over this rumor.

While I am inclined to believe Jessica, I don't forget she is a part of Bioware, it would be more than her jobs worth to come out and say it's true, she can only give one answer, an answer that supports the company.

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First I would like to say I do want something new added to the ending or a whole new ending to ME3 but I really feel bad for Geoff Keighley. People are throwing question after question to him about the ending and its kinda crazy. After he has told you once that he doesn't have any info to give you about it people are still throwing questions about it at him.