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VibezPL wrote...

Hey guys

I've been out whole weekend, any updates? Anything important happened?


Their will be no news until April, anything between now and then is jsut speculation saddly.

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waiten for pax wow this is just not cool i need my me fix but i cant because of that craptastic ending i cant even play the other two without thinging about the ending just wished bw would go ahead and say something already bout what they are planing to do cause if the just add to this ending i think id be more ticked cause none of it made since the first time

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XJ347 wrote...

VibezPL wrote...

Hey guys

I've been out whole weekend, any updates? Anything important happened?


Their will be no news until April, anything between now and then is jsut speculation saddly.


Only 12 days till PAX then we can (Hopefully) get our questions answered

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 Hi guys!! Came back from sleeping and damn! This thing moves way too fast, not that I'm complaining mind you...

Anyway... Just talked with my boyfriend (he lives in other state) and he just finished the game, he's all confused and sad, and now he's one more of us :). Actually, he said there's been now three games that have done this to him, Resident Evil, Gears of Wars and Mass Effect, he also said it'd been any random game it wouldn't have bothered him so much (completely agree btw), and that if he could choose, he'd make endings like the ones in Silent Hill, very bad endings and very good ones... Now, that's exactly what I would've liked!

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If you are feeling sad about the ending...try this. :D

http://i.chzbgr.com/...de29370fe2f.jpg

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...

Only 12 days till PAX then we can (Hopefully) get our questions answered


Hopefully...ha. ha. ha...they'd better say something :crying:

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TamiBx wrote...

Hopefully...ha. ha. ha...they'd better say something :crying:


They'll probly say somethingbut whatever it is BW will have to handel it carefully to avoid even more horriffic backlash

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Are they really likely to mention something that will make US happy at Pax? I mean Penny Arcade is firmly in Biowares camp already.

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DJBare wrote...

Benathorn wrote...
Jessica pretty much disporved that it was true. If you go back on the thread you will see her twitter post that someone asked her which indicated she was not stressing over this rumor.

While I am inclined to believe Jessica, I don't forget she is a part of Bioware, it would be more than her jobs worth to come out and say it's true, she can only give one answer, an answer that supports the company.

 

There is nothing we can really do with that post from  Penny Arcade... so Its best just to shelve it for now...its a complete unknown and we can't prove true or false.

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Hopefully...ha. ha. ha...they'd better say something :crying:


They'll probly say somethingbut whatever it is BW will have to handel it carefully to avoid even more horriffic backlash


You mean they could possibly make it even worse? With that ending they made tons of fans sad disappointed and upset at times. Many gaming portals (and reviewers) lowered the game's rating because of that. They would need to try REALLY hard to make it worse. But if they actually menage to anger people more, Bioware will need to change their logo to this : 2noob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/BioWare.png

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Reporting in, ready to hold the line!

Been away for a few days, what have i missed?

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Ambrian wrote...

You mean they could possibly make it even worse? With that ending they made tons of fans sad disappointed and upset at times. Many gaming portals (and reviewers) lowered the game's rating because of that. They would need to try REALLY hard to make it worse. But if they actually menage to anger people more, Bioware will need to change their logo to this : 2noob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/BioWare.png


Sure they could it make t worse. They could try and completely blank anything to do with the ending. Just give their seminars on the DLC (MP, likely) and whatever other things  they had planned to talk about and completely ignore the ending.

I mean, it's not like they cancelled the Q&A session where such debate might be forthcoming......oh, wait...

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The ending made me sad but I just assumed everyone got on the Normandy after picking the 'green' ending. While an extra bit to see then running on board or whatever would be cool, for my Shep seeing a cut scene with his main squeeze Liara stepping out of crashed Normandy was enough for me to realize she lived and everyone was safe. I understand others probably have different romances, different choices etc. but for me the ending was sad, but awesome.

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TamiBx wrote...

If you are feeling sad about the ending...try this. :D

http://i.chzbgr.com/...de29370fe2f.jpg


What abut that one that gives you new options when you're talking to the kid in the prolouge? :devil: I like that one....

On a side note: I saw a ten year old boy with a gray hoodie on earlier when I was out shopping for food.... I wanted to go over and start ****ing at him about how much I hated the Godchild, oh and I kinda wanted to punch him too... :unsure:
Way to go Bioware, you've made me dislike kids even more than I already do... particularly ones that wear grey hoodies! :?

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macrocarl wrote...

The ending made me sad but I just assumed everyone got on the Normandy after picking the 'green' ending. While an extra bit to see then running on board or whatever would be cool, for my Shep seeing a cut scene with his main squeeze Liara stepping out of crashed Normandy was enough for me to realize she lived and everyone was safe. I understand others probably have different romances, different choices etc. but for me the ending was sad, but awesome.

That you enjoyed the ending is a good thing, but I do need to ask, your Li steps off the normandy and does not ask where Shepard is, shows no signs of grieving, the whole scene is like Shepard never even existed.

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Nharia1 wrote...
What abut that one that gives you new options when you're talking to the kid in the prolouge? :devil: I like that one....

On a side note: I saw a ten year old boy with a gray hoodie on earlier when I was out shopping for food.... I wanted to go over and start ****ing at him about how much I hated the Godchild, oh and I kinda wanted to punch him too... :unsure:
Way to go Bioware, you've made me dislike kids even more than I already do... particularly ones that wear grey hoodies! :?


i would have slapped his mom for having her kid ruin ME3 Image IPB

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You know, with all this talk about ME4, I think this bears mentioning: I will be royally ticked if we get everything we want with the ME3 endings... and then Bioware treats the Shepard dead/Starchild/space magic/mass relays destroyed/LI and crew stranded ending we currently have as cannon back story for the next ME game. Royally ticked. I can't imagine they'd be foolish enough to pull that at this point, but I do think it's important that we tell Bioware it would be unacceptable.

Make sure to mention it in your e-mail if you agree with me during the mass e-mail campaign tomorrow, folks?

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There are just too many inconsistencies and continuity errors in the end for me to believe it was just sloppy work. I mean, there's being lazy with an ending, and then there's being LAZY!

I might expect something not to add up if it was a rush job, but not the whole ending.

My favourite was the pistol of never-ending ammunition. But then there's the fact you see dead people coming out of the Normandy, Joker still limping from his bone disease even after he's been made part-synthetic, the robot DNA spiel and so on.

Too many errors to be made by mistake, if you ask me. ONly a deliberate effort could screw it up that badly. And if it was deliberate, then it isn't a screw-up.

And we've all been had.

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TSC_1 wrote...

You know, with all this talk about ME4, I think this bears mentioning: I will be royally ticked if we get everything we want with the ME3 endings... and then Bioware treats the Shepard dead/Starchild/space magic/mass relays destroyed/LI and crew stranded ending we currently have as cannon back story for the next ME game. Royally ticked. I can't imagine they'd be foolish enough to pull that at this point, but I do think it's important that we tell Bioware it would be unacceptable.

Make sure to mention it in your e-mail if you agree with me during the mass e-mail campaign tomorrow, folks?

i do feel we are going to get an ME4 and it will be a continuation of ME3 (after they released the DLC and fixed the f**king endings of course)

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chmarr wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

You know, with all this talk about ME4, I think this bears mentioning: I will be royally ticked if we get everything we want with the ME3 endings... and then Bioware treats the Shepard dead/Starchild/space magic/mass relays destroyed/LI and crew stranded ending we currently have as cannon back story for the next ME game. Royally ticked. I can't imagine they'd be foolish enough to pull that at this point, but I do think it's important that we tell Bioware it would be unacceptable.

Make sure to mention it in your e-mail if you agree with me during the mass e-mail campaign tomorrow, folks?

i do feel we are going to get an ME4 and it will be a continuation of ME3 (after they released the DLC and fixed the f**king endings of course)


I hope not, series usually start to go downhill after 3 titles. I think they made the right choice ending this branch of the story when they did (just not the right choice on how to end it), and If they do a new ME, I want it to be a seperate experience.

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chmarr wrote...

i do feel we are going to get an ME4 and it will be a continuation of ME3 (after they released the DLC and fixed the f**king endings of course)


Well, we know we're getting an ME4, almost certainly set post-ME3. We just need to make sure that the abominable endings we currently have aren't treated as canon in any way.

Pandoravv3 wrote...

I hope not, series usually start to go
downhill after 3 titles. I think they made the right choice ending this
branch of the story when they did (just not the right choice on how to
end it), and If they do a new ME, I want it to be a seperate experience.



Well, this is the end of the current story. My concern is that, in the new story, they might treat the current awful endings as if they actually happened, even if we get a "fix" DLC. That would be bad.

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DJBare wrote...

macrocarl wrote...

The ending made me sad but I just assumed everyone got on the Normandy after picking the 'green' ending. While an extra bit to see then running on board or whatever would be cool, for my Shep seeing a cut scene with his main squeeze Liara stepping out of crashed Normandy was enough for me to realize she lived and everyone was safe. I understand others probably have different romances, different choices etc. but for me the ending was sad, but awesome.

That you enjoyed the ending is a good thing, but I do need to ask, your Li steps off the normandy and does not ask where Shepard is, shows no signs of grieving, the whole scene is like Shepard never even existed.


I feel very sad that anyone enjoyed any ending. Even more so the Green ending.
The green ending is an afront to one of the two major themes of Mass effect.
Unity over Uniformity. Short story instead of long, you've spent the entire game uniting species despite their differences, accepting their shortcomings and bring people together into a cohesive force. Krogan, turians, geth quarians, rachni w/e
The point is that we accept each other for who we are and help each other's shortcomings. The greene nding of "making everyone equal" is digusting. Right out of "deus ex" games. Only way to achieve piece is to make everyone simple minded morons with no individualism whatsoever.

When you make everyone equal, you make everyone unhappy. Isn't that what we tried and achieved with the geth? Individuality of thought over commuity consensus?.

2nd... the fact that the normandy escaped... escaped? Joker had the time t pick up my friends and not me? They even went as far as to make them cowards and had the time to not only rescue them, but leave earth, and the solar system before the relay blew up???

That is even a bigger slap in the face that the first idea. Your crew would never abandon you no matter what, they would survive with you, or die with you.

I didn't see joker turning tail and running as soon as you set the collector base toe xplode leaving you to die in it? or did I miss that?

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Iucounou wrote...

There are just too many inconsistencies and continuity errors in the end for me to believe it was just sloppy work. I mean, there's being lazy with an ending, and then there's being LAZY!

I might expect something not to add up if it was a rush job, but not the whole ending.

My favourite was the pistol of never-ending ammunition. But then there's the fact you see dead people coming out of the Normandy, Joker still limping from his bone disease even after he's been made part-synthetic, the robot DNA spiel and so on.

Too many errors to be made by mistake, if you ask me. ONly a deliberate effort could screw it up that badly. And if it was deliberate, then it isn't a screw-up.

And we've all been had.


this is what i hope in a way but it opens up the next Q. free or paid. If its paid it opens up a whole new ball game for other companys and gamming in the long run could turn into a more expensive hobby.

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LdyBelial wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Seival wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

http://jmstevenson.w...-mass-effect-3/
This, so much this!


BioWare should read this...

The only thing I disagree with in that review is that the bad ending alone will be good. I expect to see a variety of endings, depending on your previous actions. So, pure happy ending should be also included among all others.


This is seriously the best blog about the ME3 ending that I've read so far. I cannot agree more with this writer. Apart from the point where he basically says ME3 HAS to have a sad ending where Shepard and crew HAVE to die. I do not agree with this at all. ME has always been about choice so there should have definitely been a way to get a 'good' or 'happy' ending where Shepard and crew survive. Other than that. Excellent read. Seriously EVERYONE who is even remotely familiar with ME3 should see this.


I agree with all of this!



Techicnally He didn't want everyone to die - he was expecting it though.......in Hero's Tale.......sometimes hero's die - a lot don't.......he is completely right in what BW did - if the ending stands as is........without indoctrinal theory.....

not just the normal.....but one I've posted and others have seen - BW trying to indoctrinate us along with our Shepards.........it literally is the only way to make sense without damn space magic........


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