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[Azzclown]

http://www.twitch.tv/destructoid

they are talking about mass effect 3.

[toffeetrooper]

cyrrant wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

does anyone think they were seting ash or kaiden(your choice) up to be the next protaganist.
they were made spectres and they lived?

Even if these endings hadn't sucked, I'm not sure I'd be down with playing as either.  If they were going to do another game it would have to be set far enough down the road that Shep would at least be dead of natural causes.  100 years?  Maybe 150?  Close enough that everything is still relatively fresh in the history books and can be referenced obliquely in the codex and quests, but far enough that you're not just meeting old (and geriatric) squad members every couple planets.

Of course, if the endings aren't fixed, who gives a flying f****?  I certainly won't be buying it.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

i agree with what your saying i just dont see how it enriched the story by making her/him spectres

[VivaLaWhatsername]

SSV Auckland reporting in, sorry but I can't be bothered going through the last 50 odd pages.

Anything interesting happen?

Holding the line!

[macrocarl]

DJBare wrote...

macrocarl wrote...

The ending made me sad but I just assumed everyone got on the Normandy after picking the 'green' ending. While an extra bit to see then running on board or whatever would be cool, for my Shep seeing a cut scene with his main squeeze Liara stepping out of crashed Normandy was enough for me to realize she lived and everyone was safe. I understand others probably have different romances, different choices etc. but for me the ending was sad, but awesome.

That you enjoyed the ending is a good thing, but I do need to ask, your Li steps off the normandy and does not ask where Shepard is, shows no signs of grieving, the whole scene is like Shepard never even existed.

I just was glad she was safe. they mention fighting for love and I guess I just RP'd my Shep doing the sythesis thing to save Liara and everyone's future. I se\\aw her step off the Normandy and then I, the player knew she was safe. I felt them communing (laser outer space make out session before you talk to Anderson) and having sex and everything else was a satisfying LI ending. Hey if they add more that's great, but like I said, I thought it was sad but satisfying..... to say the least.

As for the 'green' ending being against concepts thrown around in the ME-verse, (ie. the P & R way) there is plenty of 'breaking the cycle' themes in all 3 ME games as well. 

[silencemayday]

xHezz90 wrote...

SSV Auckland reporting in, sorry but I can't be bothered going through the last 50 odd pages.

Anything interesting happen?

Holding the line!

nope. 
a lot of speculations. speculations everywhere. 

[NeverQuiteAwake]

toffeetrooper wrote...

i agree with what your saying i just dont see how it enriched the story by making her/him spectres

Yeah, I agree, making them spectres technically didn't add to the story. Which makes sense, considering that Udina basically gave them spectre status to use them as a shield.

It probably would've meant more if they hadn't ended up stranded on some random planet.

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 25 mars 2012 - 10:52 .

[beyondsolo]

silencemayday wrote...

ich weiß auch dass es nur ein spiel ist. und ich versuche irgendwie davon wegzukommen und mich auf andere dinge zu konzentrieren, oder abzulenken.. aber dann denke ich daran wie lange ich eigentlich auf dieses eine verdammte spiel gewartet habe, wie viel zeit ich mit den vorherigen teilen verbracht habe, wie sehr sie mich dazu gebracht haben die verschiedenen charaktere zu lieben und wie sehr mir die welt generell ans herz gewachsen ist.. und auch wenn ich es am liebsten vergessen würde, weiß ich dass ich mir spätestens in einem halben jahr- dann wenn ich die ganze triologie nochmals durchspielen möchte in den arsch beißen wird. wie fallout, elder scrolls und dragon age gehört diese franchise irgendwie zu denen die ich immer und immer und immer wieder durchspielen kann. nur dass mir dieses ende irgendwie den sinn genommen hat. und ich persönlich will nicht dass jetzt das ultimative ende bleibt. sicher, irgendwann würde ich es sicherlich wieder anrühren, aber immer nur mit diesem üblen geschmack im mund dass es vielleicht etwas gebracht hätte wenn wir daran geblieben wären.

ich weiß es ist schwer und alles. aber die momentane phase ist doch weiterhin nur eine pr masche. uns sitzen lassen bis wir einfach die nerven schmeißen und aufgeben. und gnah. ich weiß gar nicht wie ich meine gedanken irgendwie ausdrücken kann.. außer- wir können nicht einfach so aufgeben. einfach nur hier sein, präsenz zeigen muss doch für irgendetwas zählen, oder?

blargh. ich glaub kaum dass irgendetwas hier richtig rauskam.. aber **** it. ich hoffe du verstehst.

I know that it's only a game and I'm trying to get some distance by focusing on other things. But then I think about how long I've been waiting for that damn game, how much time I spent on the other two, how much they made me love the characters and how important the whole universe has grown to me. Even though I'd like to forget it all right now, I know that when I'm going to play the whole trilogy again in half a year's time, it's going to come back and bite me in the ass. Like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, and Dragon Age, this franchise is one of those I can replay indefinitely; only that the ending has robbed me of the will to do so. Personally, I don't want this to be and remain the ultimate ending. Certainly, I'm going to give it another shot some day, but there will always be that bad taste in my mouth, reminding me that maybe holding the line would have helped.

I know it's difficult. Right now BioWare is just running it's PR act, leaving us without clear answers and hoping that we lose our nerve and give up on it. I'm not sure about how to express my thoughts. We can't just give up. Be here, be present; it's got to be worth something.

[I just felt like helping you translate so everyone can get an idea of your thoughts. Thanks for sharing.]

[VivaLaWhatsername]

silencemayday wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

SSV Auckland reporting in, sorry but I can't be bothered going through the last 50 odd pages.

Anything interesting happen?

Holding the line!

nope. 
a lot of speculations. speculations everywhere. 

Lots of speculation from everyone! 

[Spartas Husky]

Koobarex wrote...


 
 

wow... dude wow.... bioware should slap themselves on their magic wands. Coz they apparently dont got an ounce of immagination for the last 5 minutes.

[toffeetrooper]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

i agree with what your saying i just dont see how it enriched the story by making her/him spectres

Yeah, I agree, making them spectres technically didn't add to the story. Which makes sense, considering that Udina basically gave them spectre status to use them as a shield.

It probably would've meant more if they hadn't ended up stranded on some random planet.

ya but if you choose the green ending the main crew sacrifice the non essential crew to repair the normandy then go do.....whatever

[Cyan-Glow]

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

[lunamoondragon]

cyrrant wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

does anyone think they were seting ash or kaiden(your choice) up to be the next protaganist.
they were made spectres and they lived?

Even if these endings hadn't sucked, I'm not sure I'd be down with playing as either.  If they were going to do another game it would have to be set far enough down the road that Shep would at least be dead of natural causes.  100 years?  Maybe 150?  Close enough that everything is still relatively fresh in the history books and can be referenced obliquely in the codex and quests, but far enough that you're not just meeting old (and geriatric) squad members every couple planets.

Of course, if the endings aren't fixed, who gives a flying f****?  I certainly won't be buying it.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

It occurs to me that even after 150 years, some squadmates like Liara, Wrex, and Samara could very well still be alive. It'd be very cool and sort of surreal to see the impressive lifespan of species like the krogan and asari firsthand. 
So a game that takes place in the future may have some appeal for me, if we manage to get our ending. 

[mCorfe]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

"We fight or we die" 

[NPH11]

ajunta_ wrote...

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Think this deserves another bump. Damn cool idea.

[DJBare]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

For me personally, that's when I step off the line, I don't like being called an idiot.

[toffeetrooper]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

not sure on that one to be honest but i wouldnt be buying the dlc.

[silencemayday]

beyondsolo wrote...

*snip*

[I just felt like helping you translate so everyone can get an idea of your thoughts. Thanks for sharing.]

thanks for translating. next time i'll try to do it myself.. just hard sometimes when you're practically thinking in more than two languages alone and can't make any sense of it till you try to write it down in at least one german seemed to be the closest, being my mother language after all.. but damn, if only the board was russian or finnish.. in retrospect it would have made more sense then.. 

[cyrrant]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

Can you imagine?

I think the backlash here and across the net would be even bigger than Retake was a week ago.  By that point a lot more people will have finished the game, and if Bioware gave a half-assed "explanation" then every one of them would be here on the BSN at exactly the same time.

At that point?  I don't know...if the calls for boycott are strong enough, and those of us holding on to our games trade them in, then EA will see its market share hurt even more, at which point it will have to choose whether to cut Bioware loose or lean on them to fix the situation to the satisfaction of the fans.  Or just let the situation play out...they could do that too.  Then Bioware releases DA3 and we see how sincere we all were about never buying another BW game.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

[lunamoondragon]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

I'd say there may be a divide in the fandom at that point. I stand with keeping up the pressure. It stands against everything Mass Effect is for there to only be one (or "three") possible ending"s". 

If Bioware is seriously adamant about the three-choices ending, I will only be satisfied if we are allowed an "epilogue." Dragon Age: Origins handled this well. Even if it's just a few short pieces of text explaining the consequences of our actions, I want to know what everything I've fought for these three games will amount to. The ending we have only leaves me with more questions.

[TSC_1]

toffeetrooper wrote...

not sure on that one to be honest but i wouldnt be buying the dlc.

Yeah, we'll see. I'd still want a new ending, but that might be the end of it. And Bioware would not get one red cent out of me from then until the end of time.

[toffeetrooper]

DJBare wrote...

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

For me personally, that's when I step off the line, I don't like being called an idiot.

no one would dare call bond an idiot

[WvStolzing]

silencemayday wrote...
ich weiß es ist schwer und alles. aber die momentane phase ist doch weiterhin nur eine pr masche. uns sitzen lassen bis wir einfach die nerven schmeißen und aufgeben. und gnah. ich weiß gar nicht wie ich meine gedanken irgendwie ausdrücken kann.. außer- wir können nicht einfach so aufgeben. einfach nur hier sein, präsenz zeigen muss doch für irgendetwas zählen, oder? 

Absolutely. Besides, what's even more important than our presence here, is the presence of our incontrovertible arguments as to why that 'ending' was nothing but a display of ineptitude.

It's only because we've discussed pretty much everything that can be discussed about the problem at hand, that many of us are feeling tired, at a loss for words, and so on.

This will go on until whatever official statement we'll get in April.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

I honestly don't know, I mean personally I would want to keep pressing them to change the ending but if everyone else just gives up and leaves, then me alone fighting for ME3 is going to be pointless.

[xlava]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

Thats a tough question. If this happens I will personally keep posting here as long as others do, but I will lose hope. However:

1. I will not buy it.
2. I will not buy another BW game, nor will I annonuce to my friends like I used to how good BW games are, in fact I will do the opposite. 
3. An explanation if not change, I don't give a **** why they decided to botch the ending. The point is that the ending is bad, and I don't want an explanation why they did it, nor regarding what the ending actually means. I don't care. So one way or another this won't matter to me. 

[Iucounou]

Cyan-Glow wrote...

So, I've been thinking... What if April rolls around and they announce just more pre-final mission DLC and simply explain the ending, without offering additional choices content.

Do we simply say, forget it and give up, or do we keep pressing them to change the ending?

I'll turn my back on them and walk away. From BW and EA as well. I'll never buy another thing from either of them.

I'll also never let an opportunity to educate others about their shenanigans pass me by.