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#6101
wright1978

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Eragondragonrider wrote...

Maialeth wrote...
 
You can shape how /your/ shepards story goes. No one is asking that all the Grimdark doomgloom endings be taken away. Infact those of us asking for aditional endings would probably be just as upset if they did take those away and replace them. What people are so upset about is that, no matter what you do, the ending.. is.. Basically the same for every possible ending save for a little color change and, very slight differences.


The last line pretty much sums it up. BioWare was being lazy and instead of giving multiply ending based on our Shepchoice, liked they stated in interviews, they just lumped it all into one big pile with different colors and said here enjoy.


Multi-coloured endings, obviously there were lots of trolls giving Bioware feedback that this was the priority for ME3 endings.

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You know what would be hilarious, is if there are actually more endings than the 7 which have been identified.

Xiosite would deserve the troll of the year award for single handedly sending this forum into hysterics. Oh wait a minute, that's not that hard is it?

#6103
Garrus30

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me > adds fuel to the fire  :devil:

it would make sense that the day one dlc would contain at least one more ending :ph34r:

Modifié par Garrus30, 01 mars 2012 - 10:02 .


#6104
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EJ107 wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

recentio wrote...

frostajulie wrote...

I cannot read 242 pages I have been browsing for 10 minutes Im getting scared you giys what happened whats going on?


No matter what you do, the Normandy crew gets stranded on a backwater planet with little to no technology or food. Shepard cannot be with them in any ending. This basically ensures Tali and Garrus will starve to death, if aboard, and the crew will "repopulate" the planet through inbreeding from a very small starting population.


You know people keep bringing up this inbreeding thing, but if you do things intelligently then a few dozen people can sustain a viable population if people are only able to have children with particular individuals.  And after a couple generations yeah everyone is some sort of cousin or another to everone else, but those cousins can set it up that they only have children with their most distant relatives and eventually a few generations after that it doesn't matter anymore because other than your closest family members everyone else is so distant a relative and theres so many people that you can be aloud to just date and have families with whomever you please, except your closest cousins yadda yadda. 


The mean minimum number of an animal species to sustain a viable population is 4,169 


Yes for animals that just do it when they're in heat and have a member of the opposite sex to copulate with who has impressed them in some way, with humans, we can calculate and make diagrams and charts that show, "Oh yes these two are distantly related enough to minimize the risk of negative resessive genetci traits do to inbreeding.  They shall make a baby together."

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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Origin/EA

Why should I Pre-Load Mass Effect 3?


Updated: 2/29/2012
You will be able to pre-load Mass Effect 3 in Origin beginning Friday, March 2 (for more precise times based on your region, please check help.ea.com/article/mass-effect-3-release-schedule). This offers several advantages:

You will be able to download the game ahead of the launch date. This will save time when the game becomes available to unlock, unpack, and install.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, a day-one patch is required before playing on launch day, but this patch is already included in the pre-load data. That means you will be ready to play an up-to-date version immediately upon release.


https://help.ea.com/...d-mass-effect-3


Speculation commence...NOW.


Most games have a day one patch to fix bugs found after the games gone gold, means nothing. 

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Sia_Sinblade

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EJ107 wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Origin/EA

Why should I Pre-Load Mass Effect 3?


Updated: 2/29/2012
You will be able to pre-load Mass Effect 3 in Origin beginning Friday, March 2 (for more precise times based on your region, please check help.ea.com/article/mass-effect-3-release-schedule). This offers several advantages:

You will be able to download the game ahead of the launch date. This will save time when the game becomes available to unlock, unpack, and install.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, a day-one patch is required before playing on launch day, but this patch is already included in the pre-load data. That means you will be ready to play an up-to-date version immediately upon release.


https://help.ea.com/...d-mass-effect-3


Speculation commence...NOW.


Most games have a day one patch to fix bugs found after the games gone gold, means nothing. 


Or everything. 

#6107
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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Origin/EA

Why should I Pre-Load Mass Effect 3?


Updated: 2/29/2012
You will be able to pre-load Mass Effect 3 in Origin beginning Friday, March 2 (for more precise times based on your region, please check help.ea.com/article/mass-effect-3-release-schedule). This offers several advantages:

You will be able to download the game ahead of the launch date. This will save time when the game becomes available to unlock, unpack, and install.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, a day-one patch is required before playing on launch day, but this patch is already included in the pre-load data. That means you will be ready to play an up-to-date version immediately upon release.


https://help.ea.com/...d-mass-effect-3


Speculation commence...NOW.


Is that....

Is that hope I feel fluttering around?

I almost feel like I should kill it, just to save myself from losing it again.

*ahem*

In all seriousness, could be good news. Could also be the inevitable anti-modding patch. We'll see.

#6108
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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Origin/EA

Why should I Pre-Load Mass Effect 3?


Updated: 2/29/2012
You will be able to pre-load Mass Effect 3 in Origin beginning Friday, March 2 (for more precise times based on your region, please check help.ea.com/article/mass-effect-3-release-schedule). This offers several advantages:

You will be able to download the game ahead of the launch date. This will save time when the game becomes available to unlock, unpack, and install.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, a day-one patch is required before playing on launch day, but this patch is already included in the pre-load data. That means you will be ready to play an up-to-date version immediately upon release.


https://help.ea.com/...d-mass-effect-3


Speculation commence...NOW.


could be a patch to fix the Multiplayer cheating that went on, could be just some basic bug fixes (I had the one where when you try to change your quickslot bar the game locks up), etc.  Release Patch is not uncommon.

#6109
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lol probable to fix the pic bug in the ending where every ME2 LI gets a pic of liara.

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Armass81 wrote...

I know a lot of you are pissed off right now but let me give you my ultimate toughts on the ending and maybe they will somehow cheer you up:

Truest mark of a hero is the willingness to sacrifice your life and your happiness for something greater, like the continued survival and happiness of others. Every crew member of Normandy knew this was likely a one way ticket, just as they knew it when going to the suicide mission in ME2. Even if they live in separation from Shepard with grief and great suffering, they know at least one thing that stays with them to the end of their days: there will be no more cycles, the reapers are now either dead or not a threat anymore and the galaxy can go on living. And i think in the end that is the thing that matters the most.

"Cities fall, but they are rebuild. And heroes die, but they are remembered" - from Deep Impact


Whatever.

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Sia_Sinblade wrote...
Speculation commence...NOW.

Commencing complete speculation!

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#6112
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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Origin/EA

Why should I Pre-Load Mass Effect 3?


Updated: 2/29/2012
You will be able to pre-load Mass Effect 3 in Origin beginning Friday, March 2 (for more precise times based on your region, please check help.ea.com/article/mass-effect-3-release-schedule). This offers several advantages:

You will be able to download the game ahead of the launch date. This will save time when the game becomes available to unlock, unpack, and install.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, a day-one patch is required before playing on launch day, but this patch is already included in the pre-load data. That means you will be ready to play an up-to-date version immediately upon release.


https://help.ea.com/...d-mass-effect-3


Speculation commence...NOW.

What is there to speculate? It's a game unlocking patch. If they wanted to scramble the content they would have done it much earlier in the game so that pirates won't be able to play FULL game. Like it was done in one of the previous games with the galaxy map. Cutting one of the endings would be just stupid.

Modifié par Aramintai, 01 mars 2012 - 10:06 .


#6113
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Doing new scenes would require calling the VA back as well as a lot of CG work.

#6114
Garrus30

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you know that the day one dlc could have the secret ending, you know?

Modifié par Garrus30, 01 mars 2012 - 10:05 .


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Tazzmission wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

kingsims wrote...

The destroy cutscene one of the saddest in the game www.youtube.com/watch Joker nooooooooooooo. :( YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ONCE YOU SEE THIS. You will know what happens in all endings.


holy crist! i started tearing up


well done bioware!

whats so sad about that? I thought the Normandy ended up stranded in the destroy ending.


it did in this one. the music is very touching

Thats them getting stranded? That looks a lot worse than that.

#6116
Sia_Sinblade

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 Yeah...and it could be new endings unlocked because BioWare knew exactly that the endings would be spoilered with the SpaceEdition. 

:devil:

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scotkrow wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

The mean minimum number of an animal species to sustain a viable population is 4,169 


Yes for animals that just do it when they're in heat and have a member of the opposite sex to copulate with who has impressed them in some way, with humans, we can calculate and make diagrams and charts that show, "Oh yes these two are distantly related enough to minimize the risk of negative resessive genetci traits do to inbreeding.  They shall make a baby together."


It would only work for a few generations. You need around 500 to maintain sufficient gentic diversity to avoid serious medical issues, and even at that numbers it's risky in the long run. To form a viable colony with no other sources of humans arriving you'd need more than 500 people to be safe, and that's assuming a near 50/50 gender ratio. 

Bascially that colony will be riddled with all sorts of genetic deformities within only a few generations. 

Modifié par EJ107, 01 mars 2012 - 10:07 .


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 Damn, this thread moves fast. Anyway since my post was buried several posts ago I might as well post the links here (thanks mass_zotz for the confirmation), that way they can be quote-bumped if they get lost:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKyyIYKxCO8

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Im not going to read through 243 pages of posts so here's my opinion on the topic: I understand people's trepidations about the endings, I really do believe it or not. However, if any of you...ANY of you expected to be able to walk away from ME3 with anything less than a 2012 (the movie) ending were simply being delusional and naive. Im not saying that to be mean, Im saying it as a matter of fact statement. To actually sit here and think that you were going to be able to get a "Walt Disney" kind of ending is simply silly.

Ever since ME2, I have fully come to expect that the "best case scenario" kind of ending we'll be able to get is, as I said, a "2012" kind of bittersweet ending. You honestly cant expect a "happily ever after" ending can you? Seriously? >.>

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Launch day patch will probably just be bug fixes if, as its quoted, the patch data is already there.

Also, why would they give unfinished products away to contest winners, and then force an NDA on top of that? Why risk generating negative release buzz instead of positive?

Conspiracy theorists...go!

#6121
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scotkrow wrote...
Yes for animals that just do it when they're in heat and have a member of the opposite sex to copulate with who has impressed them in some way, with humans, we can calculate and make diagrams and charts that show, "Oh yes these two are distantly related enough to minimize the risk of negative resessive genetci traits do to inbreeding.  They shall make a baby together."

However, if you do not have enough people (read: enough geneticaly different material) then it doesn't matter how smart or calculating humans are.  Eventually, everyone will be related, and the gene pool will go stagnant.

Just throwing that out there.

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scotkrow wrote...

You know people keep bringing up this inbreeding thing, but if you do things intelligently then a few dozen people can sustain a viable population if people are only able to have children with particular individuals.  And after a couple generations yeah everyone is some sort of cousin or another to everone else, but those cousins can set it up that they only have children with their most distant relatives and eventually a few generations after that it doesn't matter anymore because other than your closest family members everyone else is so distant a relative and theres so many people that you can be aloud to just date and have families with whomever you please, except your closest cousins yadda yadda. 


The SR-2 doesn't even have a crew large enough to sustain a genetically-viable population, and that's even assuming the ideal ratio of men to women (it's not) and everyone survives the crash landing (and that's not guaranteed or necessarily implied even in the best ending).

Now, all the talk about minimum viable populations takes into account attrition due to untimely death, malnutrition, stillbirth and problem birth, et cetera. The reason minimum viable populations trend higher for animals is due to higher attrition rates that wouldn't necessarily be present in socialized, sapient beings. I do remember reading an article in a science journal -- I think it was Scientific American -- way back in the day that made the case under perfect circumstances (zero attrition, ideal male-to-female ratio, and an extremely rigid repopulation plan) minimum viable population can be less than two dozen. You end up with a founder effect that'd last practically indefinitely, but on the other hand the population would be viable.

Not that the Normandy SR-2 would have anything approaching perfect circumstances. Seriously, their best-case scenario is Planet Deliverance.

And in a side note, what the hell Samantha Traynor is identical to my vanguad femshep. Oh, there will be words.

Modifié par humes spork, 01 mars 2012 - 10:21 .


#6123
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cotheer wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

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So, has anyone seen the Good Destroy ending yet?


Yes I saw it. It shows Shepard resting in the ruins of London, and shows her/his chest taking a deep breath indicating that She/he survived.


Mhhh...if the endings turn out to be true(I'm european, so I can watch for two days how it all turns out and stay "relatively" calm), this might be just the xenomorph/alien hatching from Shepards chest.
The final cherry on it.


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Not really like that.

I almost got my engineering-degree finished. Not gonna waste that for bad endings :D

#6124
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Olueq wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

kingsims wrote...

The destroy cutscene one of the saddest in the game www.youtube.com/watch Joker nooooooooooooo. :( YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ONCE YOU SEE THIS. You will know what happens in all endings.


holy crist! i started tearing up


well done bioware!

whats so sad about that? I thought the Normandy ended up stranded in the destroy ending.


it did in this one. the music is very touching

Thats them getting stranded? That looks a lot worse than that.



no in this link the normandy blows up dude.

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XX55XX wrote...

You know, none of these characters are returning to a BioWare game ever again. What's so wrong with them getting stranded?


That's not true, you'll get to kill them and steal their pants in the MMO.