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[Kyria Nyriese]

xHezz90 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Like me. lol
I just like to talk to people and it's not like a have a life anyways...I'd rather be here than do hw <_<

Yep we are regulars hehe. I definitely don't have a life 

I know way behind the times here.

However, what is this 'life' you speak of?  I think it's an illusion personally as I have never seen one :innocent:

[nitefyre410]

DJBare wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

chosen_trekie wrote...
I think I just thought of a worse ending for ME3. Shepard is about to open the Citadel when his/her LI shows up. The LI has been indoctrinated and kills Shepard before he can open the Citadel.

Bioware, do not, I repeat, do not use this an idea. 
Ok, thanks!

I think it's a great idea, faced with shooting your Li or letting the reapers win, now that would be an incredibly emotional moment.

 

/sigh.... 

Come on guys if you going to do this you have to do it right 

Shepard beats the Reapers  and all is well execpt uh oh...  The indoctrination process has gone to far  on either Shepard or the LI... the mental damage is done. Shepard or LI are slowly starting to fall into  the madness thats comes onces the voices can be heard... So  one has  the asking to what needs to be done... they would rather die the person they are instead of living in a complete  state mental degradation.  Remember there is no real way to break indoctrination once its done,  the damage is done.  

Just thinking about the dialogue    

Modifié par nitefyre410, 26 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[-PG-Skyre]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Well after this all all over we can enjoy one of those history channel "Seconds after disaster-mass effect 3" documentaries,

Fixed

Also, these guys come up with some good reviews. Although its just 2 guys blogging.

[Atrocity]

Iucounou wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Only six months? Umm, wow, I remember hearing that figure, but I thought it was like... I don't know, the crew flew around in Normandy for couple of months and that was the reference point for the mentioned six months.

Kudos to Jack for the hair, and for Garrus for climbing the ranks. Six months and he's giving advice to the primarch from the rank of Space Batman. Guy's efficient.

Let's not forget Ashley. Went from what was it? Gunnery Chief in the first game to Lt. Commander in ME3. In all three games she was abrasive, had questionable judgemental capabilities and was anything but level-headed. Just the sorts of qualities, apparently, that get you a meteoric rise in military ranks.

Yes, but at least she had a position to rise from (albeit I wouldn't promote her because what you said is so true), unlike my dear Mr. Vakarian. That's just degrees of unbelievability I guess. Though I don't really have anything against their sudden climbing of the ranks as such, I can put my disbelief on suspense, especially with Garrus, seeing how he might really connect with the new primarch, both of them being so good with rules and such.

Just gotta admire the efficiency of inter-galactic bureaucracy, that's all 

[Gernbuster]

Rdubs wrote...

Xellith wrote...

Aedera wrote...

Rather I should say that we are advising our friend not to buy it. Sad that is the case but unless new endings come out, I can't recommend the game.

Ive already convinced about 5 friends not to buy it.

BINGO.  RIGHT HERE is all the proof you need why the whole "Indoctrination theory" is just fan creative wishful thinking.  In fact there are two very simple facts which disprove that whole theory:

1) Bioware cares about maximizing sales more than anything now that the product has been released.  Just look at the quotes above, TONS of people are screaming from the rooftops: do not buy this game.  Bioware of course knows this is going on.  Do you really think that if they had an ace up their sleeve, they wouldn't at least HINT that maybe there's more to the game - instead of letting these pissed-off fans continue to erode sales?  Of course not.

2) I think it was mazuka who made a comment regarding the ending, something about the need to maintain "artistic integrity."  The only thing is, "artistic integrity" DOES NOT NEED TO BE DEFENDED IF THE ART IS NOT FINISHED.  The fact that he's doing so means there is no secret additional content, what you see is what you get.

1. The argument is very good, but on the other hand i can't imagine what the hell did happen to come up with this sort of ending. Obviously there was a great misscalculating. In my personal oppinion Bioware lost the first round of their ME3 PR, maybe they got good cards and play them at the end so the PR gain will be astronomical, or they are just bluffing and trying to find a solution to get out of the match without losing to much. I think if they would have nothing to calm their fans, they would say it as soon as possible.

2. OFC they need to defend it, if they got something in their backhand. Without deffending it more and more newspapers will show our point of view, which would harm Biowares image even more.

[Nayt Navare]

I actually liked Arrival. Not as much as PotSB or Overlord, but more than ME1 DLC by a long shot.

[-PG-Skyre]

Ok, I'm off for the night guys and gals.
If Shepard tries to sit in my seat again, can someone please shoot him?
*Be warned: He killed the last person I sent to get him out of my chair*

Hold the line.

[Cybermortis]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Also, thinking about the devs from other companies defending biowares right to the ending they want seem to miss the point, that with something like bioshock, each game is unique and only in a small way related to the previous games, and if the screwed up bioshock 2 (for example) they can go oh, well we can do better next time, but for the mass effect series there is no next time, once you have bunged up the ending so bad there is no next time to improve.

They are defending the ending due to self-interest. 

If Bioware changes the ending they are scared that in future their own work could be called out as being poor quality and changed. Some of this concern is probably understandable, since even the best writers in the industry will have their ideas trimmed down by the developer due to restricted dev time*, technical limitations of the platform and the urges of the producers/director. I don't know the ins and outs of the gaming industry, but in films it is the producers and directors who outline the story and decide what directions it will take rather than the writers.

(*Dev time is like 'Bullet-time'...only it speeds everything else up rather than slowing them down. Anyone who'd worked to a deadline will have encountered 'Dev-time'. It is why when you have two hours to finish writing the last page it will take you three hours to do right.)


I'm wondering, based on something that was asked last night about the recent 'leaked' (and almost certainly fake) ending. I wonder if the rumour about 'The Truth' DLC might not have been an intentional 'leak' from Bioware to see what customers would make of changing the ending. I find it very hard to believe that everyone at BW was happy with the mess we got, and they might have been toying with the idea of such a DLC before the game was released. The rumour could have been intended to test the waters without committing Bioware to anything, or having to admit that the ending was rubbish. 
My thinking would be that BW would have used the reaction to see if making it would be worth the time, or if they could get away with doing nothing...without realising quite how strong the reaction to the current ending would be.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

SE JN wrote...

I actually liked Arrival. Not as much as PotSB or Overlord, but more than ME1 DLC by a long shot.

It was ok, the only anoying thing was the vow of silence your squadmates and joker took due to the budget, I thought overlord was actualy quite touching, dispite it just being a slugfest, and I appreciated the cameo in the Grissom acadamy mission

[TamiBx]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Like me. lol
I just like to talk to people and it's not like a have a life anyways...I'd rather be here than do hw <_<

Yep we are regulars hehe. I definitely don't have a life 

I know way behind the times here.

However, what is this 'life' you speak of?  I think it's an illusion personally as I have never seen one :innocent:

Nope, never posted on a gaming forum before. Like...ever. 

My liife is...homework? 

[Kyria Nyriese]

TamiBx wrote...
*snip

Nope, never posted on a gaming forum before. Like...ever. 

My liife is...homework? 

I rarely visit forums, much less post on them.  Usually when I do visit forums I end up just angry and annoyed and have to stop myself from posting.  It's amazing what things like this crap will do.


*edit since I can't seem to spell this morning.

Modifié par Kyria Nyriese, 26 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[DJBare]

SE JN wrote...

I actually liked Arrival. Not as much as PotSB or Overlord, but more than ME1 DLC by a long shot.

I enjoyed Arrival right upto the point where the scientist(forgot her name) is standing there like a dummy while hords take potshots at us, she is not even tapping on the control panel AND she is carrying a pistol, makes no attempts to get to cover, yeah this was supposed to be Shepard protecting her while she does her thing, but it's poorly done.

Modifié par DJBare, 26 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[evisneffo]

Cybermortis wrote...
 I noticed that ME3 is meant to take place six months after ME2...which made me ask how Jack managed to grow a pony tail in that time? A new biotic power maybe? 'I will extend you!'

Just letting you know this made me laugh out loud :D I can so hear that random mook's voice right now ...


But yeah a heap of stuff changes surprisingly quickly in those six months.

[Atrocity]

DJBare wrote...

SE JN wrote...

I actually liked Arrival. Not as much as PotSB or Overlord, but more than ME1 DLC by a long shot.

I enjoyed Arrival right upto the point where the scientists(forgot her name) is standing there like a dummy while hords take potshots at us, she is not even tapping on the control panel AND she is carrying a pistol, makes no attempts to get to cover, yeah this was supposed to be Shepard protecting her while she does her thing, but it's poorly done.

Arrival has an escort mission?
Ok, I have now officially no desire to play it. To paraphrase cracked.com article: "Has there ever been one person in the history of gaming who has enjoyed an escort and protect mission?"

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Atrocity wrote...



Arrival has an escort mission?
Ok, I have now officially no desire to play it. To paraphrase cracked.com article: "Has there ever been one person in the history of gaming who has enjoyed an escort and protect mission?"

Its not an escort, after fighting off waves of enimes you get a cutscene where she dies whatever you do basicly

[DJBare]

Atrocity wrote...
Arrival has an escort mission?
Ok, I have now officially no desire to play it. To paraphrase cracked.com article: "Has there ever been one person in the history of gaming who has enjoyed an escort and protect mission?"

To be fair, it would have been a VERY important escort mission if the consequences had carried through to ME3 as they were originally intended, but since they scrapped the whole trial sequence from ME3 it no longer has any meaning.

[Atrocity]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Arrival has an escort mission?
Ok, I have now officially no desire to play it. To paraphrase cracked.com article: "Has there ever been one person in the history of gaming who has enjoyed an escort and protect mission?"

Its not an escort, after fighting off waves of enimes you get a cutscene where she dies whatever you do basicly

*enter ironic comment on how choices do not matter here*

Even Bring Down the Sky mattered. Or that's at least what I'm telling myself, since I was actually positively surprised when that batarian walked behind me and pulled the gun out.

// 

DJBare wrote...
To be fair, it would have been a VERY important escort mission if the consequences had carried through to ME3 as they were originally intended, but since they scrapped the whole trial sequence from ME3 it no longer has any meaning.

Ok, that would have been a saving grace, if they had used it. As it stands now, it's just an insult to the injury.

Modifié par Atrocity, 26 mars 2012 - 02:42 .

[Chilitomato]

guys i freaking knew it. i posted an image link several pages back showing marauder shields staring at us in the face in our multiplayer session because we couldn't kill him and i thought it was just a coincidence. this video shows other wise D: He is taking control o_O

[monima]

DJBare wrote...

Atrocity wrote...
Arrival has an escort mission?
Ok, I have now officially no desire to play it. To paraphrase cracked.com article: "Has there ever been one person in the history of gaming who has enjoyed an escort and protect mission?"

To be fair, it would have been a VERY important escort mission if the consequences had carried through to ME3 as they were originally intended, but since they scrapped the whole trial sequence from ME3 it no longer has any meaning.

I just watched this video on you tube, he talks about the intro of the game. www.youtube.com/watch  He mentions the fact that it looks like a trial room when you talk to the admirals in the beginning. Its just seems to me they decided  to skip the trial, but originally had intended for there to be one:?

[Drogonion]

The word for the OP here in retrospect is "prescient." I wonder exactly how many of Bioware's own developers and testers must have revolted against this disastrous ending, or stayed silent against and cowed by the forces pushing for it.

[redfield2]

Korea Fleet

just checking in

looking for next month and DLC...

[silencemayday]

well, doesn't exactly look like a courtroom, but it's titled as one. in the scene where you meet the virmire survivor, you can even see it in the back..

[Matt_gekko88]

Hello guys and girls.
Any news? Any lifesign?

[Zwei133]

Just a random ME3 related link I stumbled across...

http://www.atomicmpc...iii-2--wtf.aspx

[Militarized]

So I just read this in the codex...

"Although clearly technologically superior to the Citadel forces, the Reapers have experienced casualties in the battles across the galaxy. This indicates that, theoretically, with the right intelligence, weapons, and strategy, the Reapers could be defeated."

Way to give me hope and then have it fall flat on it's face....

Sigh.