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Atrocity wrote...

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It is used at the start of the battle he shoots two fighters with it, but like the  reaper beams its based on its a lot more short ranged than any mass accelerator weapon


I'll take your word for it. Because the other option would be downgrading, because, I don't know, Turian fleet called and wanted it back.



Apparently Garus with his reaper task force spent some time having more smaller ships fitted with Phalanx cannons and the like its just we don't really see much close range battle in the cinematics but obviously I think the normandy should have done more.

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Tyion133 wrote...

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It is used at the start of the battle he shoots two fighters with it, but like the  reaper beams its based on its a lot more short ranged than any mass accelerator weapon


Ahh... So... Was the Normandy in orbit around Rannoch like the Migrant Fleet, while firing on the reaper?

Well I don't think so, you see it launch missiles into where the reaper is hiding but I think its the main fleet with conventional mass accelerator weapons that destroy the reaper

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Atrocity wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

It is used at the start of the battle he shoots two fighters with it, but like the  reaper beams its based on its a lot more short ranged than any mass accelerator weapon


I'll take your word for it. Because the other option would be downgrading, because, I don't know, Turian fleet called and wanted it back.


Ooohhh, I see... They wanted the cannon back so they could install it on the moon of Palaven for extra defense capabilities against Space MagicImage IPB

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There are too many issues about the "ending" and ME3 (generally).

Probably we will know more at pax... 11 days to go <_< this will be a long wait.... but we will hold the line people ;)

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Something that has been bugging me for a while now but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it came to me.

Why call the mega-macguffin the Crucible? If it was a weapon, why not call it the Hammer, or the Anvil?

And why Crucible, not Forge?

Crucible is a very specific word. I'd like to think it was chosen for a reason. I looked up the definition, just to be sure:

http://www.thefreedi...ry.com/crucible

Particularly I'm looking at the definition which says:

"A severe test, as of patience or belief; a trial."

Maybe BW had this in mind all along? That the Crucible wasn't a weapon as such. It was where Shepard would face a test of his beliefs and that test would determine if he was worthy enough to go on to destroy the Reapers?

Just thinking out loud.... don't lynch me! It just seemed a very particular word to use to describe something that was supposedly a weapon, that's all.


Well, that might actually support indoc theory.

I still cannot figure out how Bioware could drop the ball like this. It would actually be logical if on, say, PAX they announced: "It was masterfully planned scheme from the very beginning. Did all of You really thinhk we would make a s**t like this after 20 years of developing games?"

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chujwamdotego wrote...

Well, that might actually support indoc theory.

I still cannot figure out how Bioware could drop the ball like this. It would actually be logical if on, say, PAX they announced: "It was masterfully planned scheme from the very beginning. Did all of You really thinhk we would make a s**t like this after 20 years of developing games?"


What happen if i think Yes? :mellow:

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Apparently Garus with his reaper task force spent some time having more smaller ships fitted with Phalanx cannons and the like its just we don't really see much close range battle in the cinematics but obviously I think the normandy should have done more.


Hmm speaking of which, my memory is rusty, did Space Batman ever explain how he came across schematics for the better main gun in ME2? I guess he has spent enough time with calibrations to actually have memorized it, and what happens on Omega stays on Omega, but still, I find it curious how these 'cutting edge technology' upgrades are always found laying around in someone's bathroom or such in the games :whistle:

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Iucounou wrote...

Something that has been bugging me for a while now but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it came to me.

Why call the mega-macguffin the Crucible? If it was a weapon, why not call it the Hammer, or the Anvil?

And why Crucible, not Forge?

Crucible is a very specific word. I'd like to think it was chosen for a reason. I looked up the definition, just to be sure:

http://www.thefreedi...ry.com/crucible

Particularly I'm looking at the definition which says:

"A severe test, as of patience or belief; a trial."


Because it was a test that every cycle has failed *edit* but yes there was no reason for the alliance to name it that, just the dev team
Or they just thought it sounded cool <_<

I really dislike the whole concept of the "Super weapon we've had plans for this whole time, but it was behind that stack of heavy boxes and i have a bad back and i didnt bother to see what was there"

Modifié par Szaiu, 26 mars 2012 - 05:00 .


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Goikiu wrote...

There are too many issues about the "ending" and ME3 (generally).

Probably we will know more at pax... 11 days to go <_< this will be a long wait.... but we will hold the line people ;)


I agree, many issues in the game. :mellow:

well, may be i'm just being critical...

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Atrocity wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Apparently Garus with his reaper task force spent some time having more smaller ships fitted with Phalanx cannons and the like its just we don't really see much close range battle in the cinematics but obviously I think the normandy should have done more.


Hmm speaking of which, my memory is rusty, did Space Batman ever explain how he came across schematics for the better main gun in ME2? I guess he has spent enough time with calibrations to actually have memorized it, and what happens on Omega stays on Omega, but still, I find it curious how these 'cutting edge technology' upgrades are always found laying around in someone's bathroom or such in the games :whistle:



Read the codex lol, some poor turians combing through every piece of soverign on the citadel managed to reverse engie it


Edit. but how it came into his hands I don't know

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Atrocity wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Apparently Garus with his reaper task force spent some time having more smaller ships fitted with Phalanx cannons and the like its just we don't really see much close range battle in the cinematics but obviously I think the normandy should have done more.


Hmm speaking of which, my memory is rusty, did Space Batman ever explain how he came across schematics for the better main gun in ME2? I guess he has spent enough time with calibrations to actually have memorized it, and what happens on Omega stays on Omega, but still, I find it curious how these 'cutting edge technology' upgrades are always found laying around in someone's bathroom or such in the games :whistle:


It's those damn Elder Trolls that keep stealing the plans and leaving them where you as the player just happen to pick it up while using the bathroom or walking the wrong direction. Image IPB

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Goikiu wrote...

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Well, that might actually support indoc theory.

I still cannot figure out how Bioware could drop the ball like this. It would actually be logical if on, say, PAX they announced: "It was masterfully planned scheme from the very beginning. Did all of You really thinhk we would make a s**t like this after 20 years of developing games?"


What happen if i think Yes? :mellow:


I also fear sometimes it might be true. But I am going wait patiently till April's announcement and maybe for DLC to judge it.

Until then - hold the line ;)

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EA is doing what everyone trys to avoid, EA are doing a john cena, shoving the same games down our throats year in year out when they let a developer take its time and make a good game EA try to get in on the act and RUIN IT.

need for speed was a great series but after the first underground it has just stagnated, EVERY IP EA has is devalued at a dramatic rate.

That's EA for you. I have absolutely nothing positive to say about that bunch of soulless money-grubbers. They suck the value out of everything they touch with their "lowest common denominator" crap and every time a new company joins up with them I start seriously fearing for the quality of their games, their customer service, everything.

EA is a warning label, sadly.

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Tyion133 wrote...

Ooohhh, I see... They wanted the cannon back so they could install it on the moon of Palaven for extra defense capabilities against Space MagicImage IPB


Yeah, it's like 20 point War Asset and they painted it red/blue/green just for the heck of it.
And to think I didn't use to have any problems with whole readyness rating system... Though the more I think of it, the lazier it seems, though the basic concept is still kind of good.

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Yesterday's Three Panel Soul seems rather fitting. Can't say for sure if it's a commentary on ME3's ending, but I'd guess it is given the number of ME comics there in the past little while.

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I think its pretty sad that most companies will go to PAX to ... "advertise" their products and Bioware, if they dont clear things up, goes to PAX to basically explain and argue about their game... T_T

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Szaiu wrote...

Iucounou wrote...

Something that has been bugging me for a while now but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it came to me.

Why call the mega-macguffin the Crucible? If it was a weapon, why not call it the Hammer, or the Anvil?

And why Crucible, not Forge?

Crucible is a very specific word. I'd like to think it was chosen for a reason. I looked up the definition, just to be sure:

http://www.thefreedi...ry.com/crucible

Particularly I'm looking at the definition which says:

"A severe test, as of patience or belief; a trial."


Because it was a test that every cycle has failed *edit* but yes there was no reason for the alliance to name it that, just the dev team
Or they just thought it sounded cool <_<

I really dislike the whole concept of the "Super weapon we've had plans for this whole time, but it was behind that stack of heavy boxes and i have a bad back and i didnt bother to see what was there"


Crucible is also the last most difficult phase in Marine bootcamp. Apparently someone at Bioware experienced it, and wanted the fans to suffer the same pain.

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Starfleet would do well against the reapers, I.e since Ezo based kinetic barriers are not protection from directed energy weapons, e.g the main armament of star trek universe vessels

Serious question, in ME2 we upgrade the Normandy's guns to the Thanix cannons which Joker uses in applause-worthy manner to rip the Collector ship apart. Why have we not seen this amazing gun in action against Harby? (well any of the Reapers really)



He shoots two of those reaper fighter drone things and that seems to be it though. The reaper weapons are superheated metal beams though not lazers

Isn't that what the Thanix cannon is supposed to be like? Not quite the same but similar technology?

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TSC_1 wrote...

Yesterday's Three Panel Soul seems rather fitting. Can't say for sure if it's a commentary on ME3's ending, but I'd guess it is given the number of ME comics there in the past little while.



Pretty nice, 99% sure its about our game B)

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Isn't that what the Thanix cannon is supposed to be like? Not quite the same but similar technology?


Yes. The Thanix cannon is based on the reaper weapon salvaged from Sovereign's debris after the Battle of the Citadel.

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Iucounou wrote...

Something that has been bugging me for a while now but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it came to me.

Why call the mega-macguffin the Crucible? If it was a weapon, why not call it the Hammer, or the Anvil?

And why Crucible, not Forge?

Crucible is a very specific word. I'd like to think it was chosen for a reason. I looked up the definition, just to be sure:

http://www.thefreedi...ry.com/crucible

Particularly I'm looking at the definition which says:

"A severe test, as of patience or belief; a trial."

Maybe BW had this in mind all along? That the Crucible wasn't a weapon as such. It was where Shepard would face a test of his beliefs and that test would determine if he was worthy enough to go on to destroy the Reapers?

Just thinking out loud.... don't lynch me! It just seemed a very particular word to use to describe something that was supposedly a weapon, that's all.

I have thought about this as well, but if that is what it really was then BW legitimatly gave us a game without an ending.  If the Crucible was literally a dream at the end of the game then the breath scene would be where you got hit with the reaper beam.  The war is not finished, Earth has not fallen or risen, the repears have not been repealed.
This would all be ok if this was the second game of a trilogy, or number three of four, but this is supposed to be the last game of this story arc.
So if you are right (personally I think you are) the ending, or lack thereof,  still sucks.

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[quote]KRAETZNER wrote...

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Crucible is also the last most difficult phase in Marine bootcamp. Apparently someone at Bioware experienced it, and wanted the fans to suffer the same pain. [/quote]
used for melting and calcinating things at high temps for use with - SPACE MAGIC! Image IPB

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Yesterday's Three Panel Soul seems rather fitting. Can't say for sure if it's a commentary on ME3's ending, but I'd guess it is given the number of ME comics there in the past little while.



Pretty nice, 99% sure its about our game B)


Probably. Especially since the guy who makes the comic works in game design.

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the_secondhammer wrote...

Hallo folks,
I've lurked that forums from 6th march and even posted with my old account at the very beginning of this thread.
Now I am back with a fixed Origin Account with a Copy of ME 3 and just wanted to say that I'm holding the line with you.

Sonashi wrote...

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Sonashi wrote...

I'm not waiting for their announcement in April anymore. I've realized something. This helped me.



Skip to around 29:30 and listen. So whatever BioWare do that won't redeem themselves. It's not the same level of passion anymore. I can live with any stupid things but i can't live with knowledge that my beloved game isn't as good as it should be. It's just simply a crime like he said.


Is that a new one from him? I watched a previous one I think..


I don't know really. It's from March 24th so it's the latest clip posted by him so?


Acutally I agree with this guy a lot.


I agree with his thought that people did not care. And replayig the game its not just the end that is broken, it is the system of connections. You can sleep with Traynor and Liara at the end and there is no dialogue about cheating...



This guy brings up alot of good and valid points. While I am not ready to completely write BioWare off just yet, I agree with everything else he had to say.