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[VyseN1]

Wow, just watched moviebobs piece. That guy's ego has increased exponentially the last couple of years.

[Ender99]

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SkaldFish wrote...

(Apologies if already posted)

The Wall Street Journal weighs in: Why the Ending of Mass Effect 3 Started a Furor

Overall, not so bad. Some interesting insights, but (compared to Forbes, for example) fairly poor research on the real issues behind the protests.

Poor research or no, it's amazing that we've made the Wall Street Journal! That definitly goes into the "win" catagory for us.

Hold the line guys!

[Tyion133]

ziyon conqueror wrote...

I don't want improvements to the current endings. I want a new one. The kind where we could alter the Crucible's function to save the Earth without sacrificing all other synthetics.

Just use Space Magic  that seems to work

[ziyon conqueror]

Tyion133 wrote...

ziyon conqueror wrote...

I don't want improvements to the current endings. I want a new one. The kind where we could alter the Crucible's function to save the Earth without sacrificing all other synthetics.

Just use Space Magic  that seems to work

You mean Synthesis. That was the worst possible fate for Shepard that I totally disagree with. There's always a better way.

Modifié par ziyon conqueror, 27 mars 2012 - 12:03 .

[Cybermortis]

Hehehe. I have to share this because it put a smile on my face and left me in a good mood.

I was just on another message board (Mythbusters, for those who know the show) where someone was trying to argue that a Ninja could catch an arrow fired at them. The poster claimed that 'in the old days they lived and breathed Ninjitsu as it was a matter of life or death'

I had a wonderful sense of satisfaction in noting that Ninjitsu was developed in the really old days of the late 1970's....

Sorry, I know that was off topic. But it made me smile in a 'totally not enjoying demolishing a paper thin argument in a single line' kind of way.

Oh, if it were only that easy with people who try to use the 'Games are art!' argument....

[Tyion133]

ziyon conqueror wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

ziyon conqueror wrote...

I don't want improvements to the current endings. I want a new one. The kind where we could alter the Crucible's function to save the Earth without sacrificing all other synthetics.

Just use Space Magic  that seems to work

You mean Synthesis. That was the worst possible fate for Shepard that I totally disagree with. There's always a better way.

Agreed... Deffinently didnt like how Shepard went from defiant and heroic to obedient and depressing... Sure (s)he had lost alot of blood and was extremely close to dying, but a complete change in personality in a matter of minutes is just impossible...

[PhoenixDove1]

ErMacPE wrote...

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Just was able to finish, just wanted to say, you actually captured it perfectly, at first felt maybe a little slow, but I was intrigued and then hours just running back and forth on the Normandy.  I wanted to do all the side quests to get more conversation .  It's ok for the wall of text, it's really the only way to bring someone on the ride with you.   I don't want to take up any more time, just thank you *gold clap*.

Holding the line!

[Tyion133]

Cybermortis wrote...

Oh, if it were only that easy with people who try to use the 'Games are art!' argument....

Sure... Games can be art, but a game-trilogy like Mass Effect cant go from a choice/story/player-based system to being art in a matter of minutes...

[Jorojr]

Ender99 wrote...

Poor research or no, it's amazing that we've made the Wall Street Journal! That definitly goes into the "win" catagory for us.

Hold the line guys!

I must agree.  It's also amazing how many sites are poking holes through the artistic integrity argument by citing how authors such as Dostoyevsky and Dickens have changed their stories.   How Hollywood often times releases DVDs with alternate endings.  Heck, a prime example of a game that received an alternate ending DLC was the hugely successful Fall Out 3. 

[Bruinbear]

Hey guys and gals. RL has kept me off the forum for a few days, but I have been holding the line in spirit. Is today the next wave of emails and letters? If so, what was the email again? Thanks!

[silencemayday]

Cybermortis wrote...

Hehehe. I have to share this because it put a smile on my face and left me in a good mood.

I was just on another message board (Mythbusters, for those who know the show) where someone was trying to argue that a Ninja could catch an arrow fired at them. The poster claimed that 'in the old days they lived and breathed Ninjitsu as it was a matter of life or death'

I had a wonderful sense of satisfaction in noting that Ninjitsu was developed in the really old days of the late 1970's....

Sorry, I know that was off topic. But it made me smile in a 'totally not enjoying demolishing a paper thin argument in a single line' kind of way.

Oh, if it were only that easy with people who try to use the 'Games are art!' argument....

oh mythbusters but, wasn't that episode like ages ago? 
buut, congratulations anyway we can all use some sense of satisfaction at the moment. 

@bruinbear; yes. the mail/letter campaign is today. as for the exact mail? don't think there is one. just whatever you feel like. i do remember that there was a post about certain points we're supposed to bring up, but to be honest, i can't think of them right now. maybe on the facebook group? 

and as for the mail.. i think mine is escalating again.. i just can't stop writing. which probably isn't such a good thing.. 

Modifié par silencemayday, 27 mars 2012 - 12:14 .

[WvStolzing]

SkaldFish wrote...

(Apologies if already posted)

Great news! but I have a question:

Shouldn't we keep in mind that these articles (Forbes, WSJ) are appearing in blogs hosted on their respective websites? I mean, these aren't articles that will go into the print edition; and it doesn't seem like the publication itself is taking a stance.

[Snuppledink]

I was thinking about other games with similar endings to ME3. Is it me or does anyone else see a resemblance to the endings of Deus Ex Human Revolution?

Probably just me...

For those who played Deus Ex Human Revolution, did you like those endings?

=S=

[KaiserinKai]

Cybermortis wrote...

Hehehe. I have to share this because it put a smile on my face and left me in a good mood.

I was just on another message board (Mythbusters, for those who know the show) where someone was trying to argue that a Ninja could catch an arrow fired at them. The poster claimed that 'in the old days they lived and breathed Ninjitsu as it was a matter of life or death'

I had a wonderful sense of satisfaction in noting that Ninjitsu was developed in the really old days of the late 1970's....

Sorry, I know that was off topic. But it made me smile in a 'totally not enjoying demolishing a paper thin argument in a single line' kind of way.

Oh, if it were only that easy with people who try to use the 'Games are art!' argument....

This is my response to the "It's ART!" argument...

[Little Old Woman]

Snuppledink wrote...

I was thinking about other games with similar endings to ME3. Is it me or does anyone else see a resemblance to the endings of Deus Ex Human Revolution?

Probably just me...

For those who played Deus Ex Human Revolution, did you like those endings?

=S=

For a singular experience as was DE:HR, I was happy with those endings, but as a copy pasted ending to an unrelated TRILOGY of games with an evolving story I certainly was not.

Modifié par Little Old Woman, 27 mars 2012 - 12:21 .

[Tyion133]

KaiserinKai wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Hehehe. I have to share this because it put a smile on my face and left me in a good mood.

I was just on another message board (Mythbusters, for those who know the show) where someone was trying to argue that a Ninja could catch an arrow fired at them. The poster claimed that 'in the old days they lived and breathed Ninjitsu as it was a matter of life or death'

I had a wonderful sense of satisfaction in noting that Ninjitsu was developed in the really old days of the late 1970's....

Sorry, I know that was off topic. But it made me smile in a 'totally not enjoying demolishing a paper thin argument in a single line' kind of way.

Oh, if it were only that easy with people who try to use the 'Games are art!' argument....

This is my response to the "It's ART!" argument...

I prefer the one on the right...

[tjc2]

Tyion133 wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Oh, if it were only that easy with people who try to use the 'Games are art!' argument....

Sure... Games can be art, but a game-trilogy like Mass Effect cant go from a choice/story/player-based system to being art in a matter of minutes...

The ending no matter what you chose is a series of events. The problem is the ending is a series of illogical events. That is why people are upset.

What I cannot understand is if the real problem was budget/time why not make the ending really simple, but logical. Shepard goes into the citadel makes a choice, he collapses after making the choice, screen goes blank.

The choices could be something like option 1 implant a destruct code that destroys reapers. 2 reprogram reapers. 3 become a reaper

[Snuppledink]

Little Old Woman wrote...
For a singular experience as was DE:HR, I was happy with those endings, but as a copy pasted ending to an unrelated TRILOGY of games with an evolving story I certainly was not.

I think that's a good point, in DE:HR, you kind of expected a choice situation... with ME3, I know I didn't want it like that.

=S=

[Fox544]

Hello all. Any new info this good Monday? Other than the email thing which I already completed.

[Geinen]

Fox544 wrote...

Hello all. Any new info this good Monday? Other than the email thing which I already completed.

Cupcakes  :happy:  Brilliant idea by someone. 

[VivaLaWhatsername]

SSV Auckland reporting in.

Any news? (though I doubt it)

Also to anyone who was here when I was on last, sorry for being a complete downer. Wasn't feeling quite myself, but I'm back!

Holding the line :-)

[TamiBx]

 So, I was talking to a friend who hasn't played ME at all, and he asked me if I had liked the ending. Apparently he heard about people disliking it, so I explained the whole situation to him (kind of felt sorry, because once you mention ME3 and ending, I seem to not be able to be quiet until I have pointed out every single problem with it) and he completely agrees with us.
Then he said he was thinking about playing ME, but now won't until the ending is fixed 

[laughing sherpa girl]

Tyranniac wrote...

Greed1914 wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

primalgoose wrote...

I don't think Kotaku are the bad guys. The article seems to be written objectively and does raise valid points.

That being said, the dude who wrote it obviously wasn't a fan/didn't finish the games and as such he doesn't understand the connection everyone here has to the series. If he were, we would have gotten something more along the lines of the IGN article.

The Kotaku article was full of nonsense, mis-information and even insults us.

Unfortunately, the press is likely to take the stance that we're just being entitled and are angry for no reason.  And it's pretty tough to convince them otherwise.  Occasionally, you'll get them to hound a dev to step up and do something, but it's not likely.  IGN did keep going after Skyrim for it's atrocious PS3 framerate, and kept it up, so it's not impossible, but unfortunately, members of the press aren't as likely to take such a stance when something isn't objectively bad, like technical bugs. 

Thing is articles like this aren't even neutral, they're -against- us. It makes us look bad. Awful!

No it doesnt..  With as much of the global market as pissed off as they know we are, comments made on kotaku only serve to make kotaku look idiotic.  With over 90% of the customers extremely pissed off, it doesnt matter what kotaku says. I'm sfraid we in here are only a minority in that we are the only ones who frequent this forum. believe me, the entire world is with us, and Bioware knows it.

[toffeetrooper]

back in the line

just spent an hour catching up