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[MouseNo4]

What is gillians island?

[magnuskn]

cerberus1701 wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

No, it isn't a dumb allusion. Just because i want something, that doesn't mean I'm getting it.

And I've been playing RPGs since they were text-based on my Commodore PET. You wanna know something about the ones you mentioned? The developers decided that those endings were valid. That those endings fit the potential narratives that they were comfortable conveying.

You would have gotten none of them if the developers decided they didn't fit the overall story they wanted to get the player into.

It's absolutely no different here.

Well, if the developers want my money for future games, seems like they won't be getting it. Because the costumers decide with their wallets if they like games which wreck all the build-up in previous games for a bitter ending. And since the costumers also decide if they like games where their choices don't really matter.

Funny how that works.

And the customers will be lining up for ME 3 on Tuesday. As will most of the whiners.

And most of the people who think of DA2 as some sort of gaming abomination will still be around for DA3. That's just the way it is.

Oh, sure people will buy ME3. I wouldn't count on BioWare getting the same or even nearly as good sales for their next RP title. Things like DA2 and SWTOR add up over time, if ME3 really only has these insanely grim endings at least I won't be buying more BioWare titles for a long time. Because trust is one of those intangible things which is hard to build up again, once it has been shattered.

But, hey, continue believing that continually disappointing your costumers is good for business!

[Balancer]

Satanicponies wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Im confused about the whole Normandy situation at the end. Why arent they with you?

For some reason the normandy decides to go through a mass relay before they...break? Land(crash) on a deserted planet and it turns into gilligan's island.

yea, that does not make any sense

[Satanicponies]

MouseNo4 wrote...

What is gillians island?

A typo of gilligan's island, I forgot a g.

[MouseNo4]

OH that. Now it makes sense.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I would love if this information is wrong. But I saw a lot of evidence that it wasn't, and a lot of disappointed people. The only way to rectify it, if it is true, is to show the fanbase's opposition to it, and hopes for more options, i.e. from DLC. Bethesda's fans did it to Bethesda, and look what they got.

And let's not forget the group of people who convinced BW to let us romance a gypsy with chicken feet and a cat/eagle/crab guy.

[xtorma]

Satanicponies wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Im confused about the whole Normandy situation at the end. Why arent they with you?

For some reason the normandy decides to go through a mass relay before they...break? Land on a deserted planet and it turns into gillians island. 

the explosion that kills shepard creates the largest mass effect field ever known, and transports the normandy 10k lightyears across the galaxy, where they eventually collide with voyager who is returning from the delta quadrant. The resulting crash lands them on miranda, where they all get beat up by river tam.

[MouseNo4]

So the Normandy deposits the team on Earth, then decides to fly through a Relay without my Shep, somehow destroying it in the process, and get stranded on some remote rock in the middle of nowhere.

Great....

[xtorma]

DaftArbiter wrote...

I would love if this information is wrong. But I saw a lot of evidence that it wasn't, and a lot of disappointed people. The only way to rectify it, if it is true, is to show the fanbase's opposition to it, and hopes for more options, i.e. from DLC. Bethesda's fans did it to Bethesda, and look what they got.

And let's not forget the group of people who convinced BW to let us romance a gypsy with chicken feet and a cat/eagle/crab guy.

all a dev has to do is pop in and say, this is all bullcrap. problem solved

[Dean_the_Young]

magnuskn wrote...

Oh, sure people will buy ME3. I wouldn't count on BioWare getting the same or even nearly as good sales for their next RP title. Things like DA2 and SWTOR add up over time, if ME3 really only has these insanely grim endings at least I won't be buying more BioWare titles for a long time. Because trust is one of those intangible things which is hard to build up again, once it has been shattered.

But, hey, continue believing that continually disappointing your costumers is good for business!

In two years, people will be complaining that the next Bioware game pales to the good old nostalgic glory of the ME trilogy.

[Kanmuru]

balancer wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Im confused about the whole Normandy situation at the end. Why arent they with you?

For some reason the normandy decides to go through a mass relay before they...break? Land(crash) on a deserted planet and it turns into gilligan's island.

yea, that does not make any sense

How "dosent make any sense"? Its pretty simple, they were transported to another activated Mass Relay wich means theres a pretty good chance to find a planet that supports life...

[Teredan]

xtorma wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

I would love if this information is wrong. But I saw a lot of evidence that it wasn't, and a lot of disappointed people. The only way to rectify it, if it is true, is to show the fanbase's opposition to it, and hopes for more options, i.e. from DLC. Bethesda's fans did it to Bethesda, and look what they got.

And let's not forget the group of people who convinced BW to let us romance a gypsy with chicken feet and a cat/eagle/crab guy.

all a dev has to do is pop in and say, this is all bullcrap. problem solved

Would be more awesome if they don't say anything and people play the game next week to find out how wrong they were.

[casedawgz]

xtorma wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Im confused about the whole Normandy situation at the end. Why arent they with you?

For some reason the normandy decides to go through a mass relay before they...break? Land on a deserted planet and it turns into gillians island. 

the explosion that kills shepard creates the largest mass effect field ever known, and transports the normandy 10k lightyears across the galaxy, where they eventually collide with voyager who is returning from the delta quadrant. The resulting crash lands them on miranda, where they all get beat up by river tam.

Imagining a Miranda and Seven of Nine romance is the only way I can keep on keeping on at this point. 

[Satanicponies]

like I said, im fine with the endings, but not the normandy's fate. Why is the normandy, who is the tip of the spear, going through a relay? accidentally or not :/

[cerberus1701]

magnuskn wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

No, it isn't a dumb allusion. Just because i want something, that doesn't mean I'm getting it.

And I've been playing RPGs since they were text-based on my Commodore PET. You wanna know something about the ones you mentioned? The developers decided that those endings were valid. That those endings fit the potential narratives that they were comfortable conveying.

You would have gotten none of them if the developers decided they didn't fit the overall story they wanted to get the player into.

It's absolutely no different here.

Well, if the developers want my money for future games, seems like they won't be getting it. Because the costumers decide with their wallets if they like games which wreck all the build-up in previous games for a bitter ending. And since the costumers also decide if they like games where their choices don't really matter.

Funny how that works.

And the customers will be lining up for ME 3 on Tuesday. As will most of the whiners.

And most of the people who think of DA2 as some sort of gaming abomination will still be around for DA3. That's just the way it is.

Oh, sure people will buy ME3. I wouldn't count on BioWare getting the same or even nearly as good sales for their next RP title. Things like DA2 and SWTOR add up over time, if ME3 really only has these insanely grim endings at least I won't be buying more BioWare titles for a long time. Because trust is one of those intangible things which is hard to build up again, once it has been shattered.

But, hey, continue believing that continually disappointing your costumers is good for business!

My contention is simply that, for all their venting, the fact that they keep showing up means that they're not so disappointed after all.

[Olueq]

DaftArbiter wrote...

I would love if this information is wrong. But I saw a lot of evidence that it wasn't, and a lot of disappointed people. The only way to rectify it, if it is true, is to show the fanbase's opposition to it, and hopes for more options, i.e. from DLC. Bethesda's fans did it to Bethesda, and look what they got.

And let's not forget the group of people who convinced BW to let us romance a gypsy with chicken feet and a cat/eagle/crab guy.

Oh shut up.

[MouseNo4]

I will say this though...

People here love the original Mass Effect. So did i, until i played the second game. And of course, people here say its worse than the original. I disagree.

So really, if people here hate the final game, chances are i will love it!

[MouseNo4]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

MouseNo4 wrote...

What is gillians island?

A typo of gilligan's island, I forgot a g.

Mass Effect 4 : Gilligan's island
Worst thing is I might buy it for the lolz 

Except it would be Massless Effect 4. Or Missing Effect 4. 

Modifié par MouseNo4, 28 février 2012 - 06:51 .

[SpiderFan1217]

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the explosion that kills shepard creates the largest mass effect field ever known, and transports the normandy 10k lightyears across the galaxy, where they eventually collide with voyager who is returning from the delta quadrant. The resulting crash lands them on miranda, where they all get beat up by river tam.
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  Great, now I need new pants.... 

EDIT: How'd I mess up the quote?

Modifié par SpiderFan1217, 28 février 2012 - 06:52 .

[Warhawk137]

Capeo wrote...

Tancho wrote...

You know, after reading all of this, I've concluded that I'm being trolled. I know it may sound like denial and I understand that rage is the popular opinion right now, but given every choice that is building into this game, I cannot logically believe that there are only six endings and they are all pretty much the same friggin thing. Do you honestly believe that anyone reviewing the game would conclude that the ending was fitting when our 'current information' completely disgraces all talk of honoring all variables? I mean, completely disregarding the 'crew ends up on a different planet' thing, our current information does not sound like it ends an epic tale at all - it sounds like trolling.

And, for all of you who keep throwing 'the guy who said it predicted the prothean's name! They shut down the thread that had this information!' Just stoooooooop. First, who wouldn't troll one of the biggest game releases in vg history? Second, all we have is a typed summary. Zero evidence. It's his word that he data mined the game. It's his word that all that happened. Sure, he could be telling the truth, but we have no reason to start a flame war based on something we haven't even played. Which brings me to three - just because they shut down the thread does not mean it's true. There are some viciously nasty responses to these rumors and if I were moderating a forum, I'd shut it down too.

The only way that I'm going to change my mind is via hardcore evidence. I need footage or high res pics from the strategy guide that firmly states 'these are the only possible outcomes'. From what I understand, the guide only 'seems to support his testimony' and the leaked script was apparently very ambiguous regarding the endings. So, until we have hardcore evidence, I'm logically inclined to think that these rumors do not reflect the full story (or the story at all) and that the game can still deliver what we're looking for. I won't know until someone provides evidence or until I play it myself.

I'd encourage others to take the same stance and enjoy the week leading up to the release.

The leaked script has the exact same endings, just brief descriptions of them.  We knew there were only 6 endings forever at this point.  

OK, without commenting on the veracity of the account in question...

If, hypothetically, I wanted to come up with some fake spoilers to cause a stir, I would probably base those spoilers on the information that's already been leaked.  If I made them up wholecloth, they might seem less credible.  So, that they align with the old leaked script doesn't actually lend the air of "credibility" we might think, simply because someone posting fake spoilers would use that as a resource.

Basically, similarity with previous leaks doesn't prove a thing either one way or the other.

[cerberus1701]

xtorma wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

I would love if this information is wrong. But I saw a lot of evidence that it wasn't, and a lot of disappointed people. The only way to rectify it, if it is true, is to show the fanbase's opposition to it, and hopes for more options, i.e. from DLC. Bethesda's fans did it to Bethesda, and look what they got.

And let's not forget the group of people who convinced BW to let us romance a gypsy with chicken feet and a cat/eagle/crab guy.

all a dev has to do is pop in and say, this is all bullcrap. problem solved

I think my response as a developer would be, "Buy the game and find out."

[xtorma]

cerberus1701 wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

No, it isn't a dumb allusion. Just because i want something, that doesn't mean I'm getting it.

And I've been playing RPGs since they were text-based on my Commodore PET. You wanna know something about the ones you mentioned? The developers decided that those endings were valid. That those endings fit the potential narratives that they were comfortable conveying.

You would have gotten none of them if the developers decided they didn't fit the overall story they wanted to get the player into.

It's absolutely no different here.

Well, if the developers want my money for future games, seems like they won't be getting it. Because the costumers decide with their wallets if they like games which wreck all the build-up in previous games for a bitter ending. And since the costumers also decide if they like games where their choices don't really matter.

Funny how that works.

And the customers will be lining up for ME 3 on Tuesday. As will most of the whiners.

And most of the people who think of DA2 as some sort of gaming abomination will still be around for DA3. That's just the way it is.

Oh, sure people will buy ME3. I wouldn't count on BioWare getting the same or even nearly as good sales for their next RP title. Things like DA2 and SWTOR add up over time, if ME3 really only has these insanely grim endings at least I won't be buying more BioWare titles for a long time. Because trust is one of those intangible things which is hard to build up again, once it has been shattered.

But, hey, continue believing that continually disappointing your costumers is good for business!

My contention is simply that, for all their venting, the fact that they keep showing up means that they're not so disappointed after all.

Or maybe they are hoping that BW will enter the discussion and put thier fears to rest.

[Balancer]

Kanmuru wrote...

balancer wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Im confused about the whole Normandy situation at the end. Why arent they with you?

For some reason the normandy decides to go through a mass relay before they...break? Land(crash) on a deserted planet and it turns into gilligan's island.

yea, that does not make any sense

How "dosent make any sense"? Its pretty simple, they were transported to another activated Mass Relay wich means theres a pretty good chance to find a planet that supports life...

uhm, why should the normandy go to another system if the war is in the local cluster? the normandy is one of the most advanced ships of the galaxy. you would think it will figth with the fleet