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Sashimi_taco

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niripas wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Reives wrote...

*puts on monocle*

http://en.wikipedia....bler-Ross_model
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance 
We've pretty much seen every one of those here already, even bargaining

Obviously you have never seen real death in real ife - however you appear to be an expert on video game death.  That's really, really nice on paper - but here in the real world it doesn't work like that. Even terminal cancer patients are nowhere near this garbage you posted.


Did you have a poor experience with a bad grief councillor?


Please STOP. WTH?
Actually I'm fighting a stage 4 cancer and there is a chance that ME3 will be my last game. I liked the ME1 and ME2, cause they were as my own fight -against all odds. Please, don't ever,EVER joke about grief. I know you all were probably just goofing around, but somehow it just touched a string in me. And regarding the end of ME3 - I still have hope it won't be so bad :)


People on the internet don't have a concept of some things. I had some **** in my life too and Mass Effect gave me an escape just like you. I just want a happy ending for my escape. I don't understand people who like dark endings, I watch movies and stuff to escape from sadness. Isn't life ****ty enough as it is?

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hey guys i found a video regarding garrus and wrex

it says ending



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albertalad

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niripas wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Reives wrote...

*puts on monocle*

http://en.wikipedia....bler-Ross_model
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance 
We've pretty much seen every one of those here already, even bargaining

Obviously you have never seen real death in real ife - however you appear to be an expert on video game death.  That's really, really nice on paper - but here in the real world it doesn't work like that. Even terminal cancer patients are nowhere near this garbage you posted.


Did you have a poor experience with a bad grief councillor?


Please STOP. WTH?
Actually I'm fighting a stage 4 cancer and there is a chance that ME3 will be my last game. I liked the ME1 and ME2, cause they were as my own fight -against all odds. Please, don't ever,EVER joke about grief. I know you all were probably just goofing around, but somehow it just touched a string in me. And regarding the end of ME3 - I still have hope it won't be so bad :)


Sorry my man, I too have lost my Dad to cancer which is exactly why this post pissed me off. I've lost real good friends as well and have had cancer myself - that's why I challenged this guy. It was all about hope for me as well. Good luck and God speed in your treatment - and I AM PROOF cancer CAN BE BEATEN!

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Sashimi_taco wrote...


People on the internet don't have a concept of some things. I had some **** in my life too and Mass Effect gave me an escape just like you. I just want a happy ending for my escape. I don't understand people who like dark endings, I watch movies and stuff to escape from sadness. Isn't life ****ty enough as it is?


And some movies have bad endings too, as do some novels. Not everything is about feeling good, warm fuzzles and living happily ever after. That's for Disney.

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Tazzmission wrote...

hey guys i found a video regarding garrus and wrex

it says ending


Good thing Garrus and Wrex aren't in that video.  Just random turians and krogans.  Racists.

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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

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Meh. You got the game for free.


If the conspiracy theorists are to be believed, then you only got "half" of the endings, all of which paint a dark and grim ending instead of the "full experience" just because the company wanted to spite potential pirates and NDA breakers rather than actually reward you.

   


The endings are real and the facts back it up


Your point being? Seeing as you quoted someone who does not question the validity of the endings?

   




Oh so I am suppose to question something . when I see in the videos the SR 2 getting wiped out and some old due and a kid on a un known planet .  Plus I have been wondering the whole time why have they been hiding the game from us. Its clear why now the game is a piece of S**t from a story and ending point

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Meh. You got the game for free.


If the conspiracy theorists are to be believed, then you only got "half" of the endings, all of which paint a dark and grim ending instead of the "full experience" just because the company wanted to spite potential pirates and NDA breakers rather than actually reward you.

   


The endings are real and the facts back it up


Your point being? Seeing as you quoted someone who does not question the validity of the endings?

   




Oh so I am suppose to question something . when I see in the videos the SR 2 getting wiped out and some old due and a kid on a un known planet .  Plus I have been wondering the whole time why have they been hiding the game from us. Its clear why now the game is a piece of S**t from a story and ending point


I forgot..you're the guy who makes absolutely no sense. 

Sorry, move along. 

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Bomb In My Pants

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...


People on the internet don't have a concept of some things. I had some **** in my life too and Mass Effect gave me an escape just like you. I just want a happy ending for my escape. I don't understand people who like dark endings, I watch movies and stuff to escape from sadness. Isn't life ****ty enough as it is?


And some movies have bad endings too, as do some novels. Not everything is about feeling good, warm fuzzles and living happily ever after. That's for Disney.


Dude, come on. Life in general is pretty ****ty, he's right about that.

Nor is it fair- we should all know that by now.

Kim Kardashian gets her own show, but Buck Compton dieing doesn't even make the evening news? Or Richard Winters a few months ago?

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we're just unhappy with the players

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...


People on the internet don't have a concept of some things. I had some **** in my life too and Mass Effect gave me an escape just like you. I just want a happy ending for my escape. I don't understand people who like dark endings, I watch movies and stuff to escape from sadness. Isn't life ****ty enough as it is?


And some movies have bad endings too, as do some novels. Not everything is about feeling good, warm fuzzles and living happily ever after. That's for Disney.


Yes but movies don't have multiple endings, or an incentive to work hard to achieve your bittersweet ending. 

Also, most movies don't have you get so involved and personal with the characters. 

Mass Effect isn't a movie or book, it's an iteractive game where your choices are supposed to matter. At the moment we're not "Fighting for the Lost" or fighting for our victory, we're fighting for depressing ending red, depressing ending blue or depressing ending green. 

I don't want a warm and fluffy Disney ending, but I also dont want an ending that looks like it got rejected by a soap for being too depressing. 

Modifié par EJ107, 01 mars 2012 - 11:03 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

And some movies have bad endings too, as do some novels. Not everything is about feeling good, warm fuzzles and living happily ever after. That's for Disney.


the difference is that novels and films have only one ending, what's the point of multiple endings if they all leave the player with the same feeling?

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They wanted to end the franchise and this was the only way mac wallters thought of by watching star trek and playing deus ex =)

Modifié par kingsims, 01 mars 2012 - 11:03 .


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Bomb In My Pants wrote...

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And there is a small loophole for the optimists out there. Maybe they'd already had much of the script before they truly realized that backlash from DA2, so changed it, and just kept the absolute crap they already had.

As for the 'bad buzz' thing- When your goal is to make money, all buzz is good buzz. They have created increased interest, as evidenced bythis forum, which has grown by 5 pages in the last 30 minutes or so.


...Grown with negative comments, people denying "evidence", and overall, plunging the forums into a state of negativity and bad buzz rather than overwhelming optimism about how great a game it'll be. .

I usually stand by the "any publicity is good publicity" bit, but, really, it just doesn't add up. You're also equating "interest" with people cancelling pre-orders, or getting discouraged overall, and then telling their friends not to buy the game.

If it is true, and they are really trying to go for the "Ooooh these endings are so bad, you just won't believe it! So buy it anyways to find out!" angle, that just seems really, really ill-conceived.

They could have accounted for piracy/leaks to create something worth talking about, something that would, when inevitably leaked, encourage people to buy the game. They could have really used the pre-release space editions to generate good buzz rather than negative.

But they didn't.

Let's assume that they are, in fact, misleading people by presenting endings that will clearly upset people in order to spite pirates/leakers only to turn around and go "Hah! Surprise! We were only just trying to fool our contest winners and any potential leaks! Here's a sunshine ending!"

That would still wreck their credibility for me. I wouldn't applaud them for daring to take a stand against piracy; I'd question who didn't show up to vote against the "Let's infuriate the fanbase to garner publicity that we haven't already achieved with live action TV commercials and an expensive marketing campaign" meeting.

In short, I think they messed up. I think that, even if pre-order sales don't prove it right away, they certainly will later on, and, short of a rescue DLC, I don't see people investing much more in the series since they effectively ended it.

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i do not care right know, after DA2, i just went to "play game, see how it goes" issue, no expectations, nothing.

though i have heard rumors that Kelly, Still does not count as a true romance in ME3, just like ME2. still does not ruin my head canon, the endings i'll play to and see the context of it all first.

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The .bik files come from retail copy so unless the day 1 patch unlocks another ending? This would be the first time in a video game.

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hey its possible afterall no game before Mass Effect series has ever implemented save transfers

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DXLelouch15 wrote...

hey its possible afterall no game before Mass Effect series has ever implemented save transfers

Yes they have.

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eh? which one?

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DXLelouch15 wrote...

hey its possible afterall no game before Mass Effect series has ever implemented save transfers

Role-playing games all the way back to Curse of the Azure Bonds (1989) have allowed save-game transfers. Probably even before that.

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So it's perfectly reasonable to believe that the crew wouldn't be separated for long.


Well, not really. The Normandy went into FTL at a vaguely-specified heading for an unspecified amount of time, and got its flight disrupted by BAYSPLOSIONS. The very fact it came out within drifting distance of a star, let alone one with a habitable world, has such astronominal odds that even having that occur is an invocation of Plot Armor of the highest-possible level. And let's face it, the galactic community has way higher priorities than going on a wild goose chase for a ship and crew they have no reason whatsoever to believe even survived.


Dude, this is fiction. Movies, TV etc. couldn't exist worth a damn without at least 5 improbable coincidences per film or book or whatever.

Maybe Edi-bot has a subspace tranceiver array hooked up to On Star.

No less plausible then reading a book where the one thing the protagonist needs just happens to turn up at the right time.

Or that someone says just the right offhand thing to Dr. House to trigger his life-saving epiphany. 

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After my Shepard found what Bioware planned for him he got himself a rope and is now literally "hanging out".

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DXLelouch15

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i didnt exist in 1989 i was born one year later lol

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Tazzmission

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what if the shepard breathing ending is a dlc adding a aftermath to the story?


what if the crew is also regarding the stranded planet?

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Wait, I read (earlier in this thread) that Xio confirmed that the destruction of the relays does not destroy eezo (and as such FTL) technology. This cuts off clusters from the wider galaxy, but this doesn't doom everyone. We don't have a complete map and knowledge of the Local Cluster in the Mass Effect galaxy. It's possible that the dietary needs of quarians and turians can be met in a nearby system that is only a few days away.

As well, if the Normandy is thrust through a wormhole, that opens up new things. Depending on who you talk to, wormholes bend or fold space. This could open up a new form of space travel that replaces relays altogether.

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GBGriffin wrote...

Bomb In My Pants wrote...

@ GBGriffin

And there is a small loophole for the optimists out there. Maybe they'd already had much of the script before they truly realized that backlash from DA2, so changed it, and just kept the absolute crap they already had.

As for the 'bad buzz' thing- When your goal is to make money, all buzz is good buzz. They have created increased interest, as evidenced bythis forum, which has grown by 5 pages in the last 30 minutes or so.


...Grown with negative comments, people denying "evidence", and overall, plunging the forums into a state of negativity and bad buzz rather than overwhelming optimism about how great a game it'll be. .

I usually stand by the "any publicity is good publicity" bit, but, really, it just doesn't add up. You're also equating "interest" with people cancelling pre-orders, or getting discouraged overall, and then telling their friends not to buy the game.

If it is true, and they are really trying to go for the "Ooooh these endings are so bad, you just won't believe it! So buy it anyways to find out!" angle, that just seems really, really ill-conceived.

They could have accounted for piracy/leaks to create something worth talking about, something that would, when inevitably leaked, encourage people to buy the game. They could have really used the pre-release space editions to generate good buzz rather than negative.

But they didn't.

Let's assume that they are, in fact, misleading people by presenting endings that will clearly upset people in order to spite pirates/leakers only to turn around and go "Hah! Surprise! We were only just trying to fool our contest winners and any potential leaks! Here's a sunshine ending!"

That would still wreck their credibility for me. I wouldn't applaud them for daring to take a stand against piracy; I'd question who didn't show up to vote against the "Let's infuriate the fanbase to garner publicity that we haven't already achieved with live action TV commercials and an expensive marketing campaign" meeting.

In short, I think they messed up. I think that, even if pre-order sales don't prove it right away, they certainly will later on, and, short of a rescue DLC, I don't see people investing much more in the series since they effectively ended it.


You have some fair points. And I do recognize how unlikely this scenario is, but I'd prefer to keep all options on the table.

Also, do you really expect those who loved the first 2 games that say the canceled pre-order to not play/buy it in the future?

Let's say that does happen, and these people DON'T sell their ME1 & ME2 copies. What do they do? Just keep starting over without an end? I would call BS on that one.

And are we all forgeting Casey Hudson's own comments that there are "literally hundreds" of different possible endings? We've seen, what? 6? Link 94 more videos, and I will start to take options off the table.