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If they do comic book wrap up, it will be like dark horse thing with omega and at the end tells me to buy dlc..... I haven't turned on my Xbox since I beat the game....


If Bioware even wants to give the smallest semblance of listening to their fanbase they won't do some cheap comic wrap up.

I have never seen any group yell louder, or break apart as much **** as this group has in so short a time. Even the "outcry" if you could even call it that for Fallout was a muted thing.

This has reached HUGE proportions and Bioware knows that all eyes are on them. From both the fans, critics and media outlets alike. I'm fairly sure that unless EA actually tells them "****it" and they decide to gamble with their recovery from this by ignoring us  they will actually make a REAL DLC for the endings. Now the only question is will it be up to snuff?

Because even though I can see the damage of removing a lead writer and a director from the project at this stage. I am no longer comfortable with the thought of either Mac walters or Casey Hudson in charge of the creative process anymore.

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Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...


Isn't there a way to recover stuff if it's "lost"?

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Nevara wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Nevara wrote...

I am very proud of this group.  We have our highs and lows but it's definitely the lull before the storm if they (BW) wait too much longer.


They won't wait much longer than PAX. If PAX comes and goes and they say nothing **** will hit the fan all over again.

And if PAX comes and goes and all they talk about is some new MP DLC again, we must demonstrate the Rage of the Nerd, and this time its gonna be even worse because by that point, we're being ignored and civility, even among the cooler heads is gonna be REAL hard to find.


True enough.  I'm waiting till PAX to make my final decision.  If the panel can't face the audience on the hard questions then what is the point of sticking around.  Life is full of hard questions and they are in the business of supposedly making people happy.

Whatever comes around the corner with the news the words "artistic integrity" or anything involving the word art in it better not be uttered because it just sounds callow and sadly egocentric.

That reminds me, I better remind my friend to give the group that has torches and pitchforks a wide berth.

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Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...

reapers my dear, reapers!

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I concur.  But try telling that to the masses.  Eventually mob mentality takes effect and then all meaning in whatever cause you were fighting for is lost.


Well, i do feel rage, however, one thing is having some rage moments... another is writing in rage... you know, to write normally you need to think about it. So if you write offenses it's because you "wanted" to write that, not because you were in a rage moment.. :mellow:

I prefer to fight with my mind, i do not like the me3 endings like the others here do. But fighting with your soul is better than using harsh words to the develop (for me at least). ;)

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My feeling at this point is calm collected rage. If all they say is "herp de derp, mp dlc and some side mission dlc + explanation of ghost dad/ star child" at pax, then I will never buy their products again.

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xHezz90 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...


Isn't there a way to recover stuff if it's "lost"?


Nope... at least not that I'm aware of... :crying::crying::crying: 5 paragraphs... gone, and I was just startung to get to the actual fic part too!:crying::crying::crying:

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Nevara wrote...


*snip* 

I am very proud of this group.  We have our highs and lows but it's definitely the lull before the storm if they (BW) wait too much longer.

 

Just the Eye of the Storm for now... its going to quit till this announcement in April than after than... well the real poo is going to hit the fan depending on how  Bioware handles this.... its a powder keg waiting to go off. Lets hope they do not throw a match and gas on it. 

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Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...


I know how you feel.  My word program just shut off unexpectedly without a save.  I guess it hated chapter 2. :crying:

*hugs for you*

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Nevara wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Nevara wrote...

Sadly, my 9 y/o called out starkid when he saw him. His exact words were "pointless abomination", watched the ending and glanced at me like I'd done something wrong and said "What was the point of Sovereign? Don't ever do that again."

I was gobsmacked, but if a kid can see through the fluff why couldn't the writers???

My 9 y/o was the same. He watched the ending with me and asked me what the hell had just happened, before listing many of the points that we have all mentioned. He was very offended at the thought of Joker running away.


So was mine.  He called the crew from ME1-ME3 the "Royal Disfunctional Family".  He amazes me alot of the time.  That's an AZ education for you.  giggle. 

Mine never ceases to amaze me with the insightful comments that he comes up with. I swear they get smarter younger. He has also decided that Marauder Shields is his new hero Image IPB

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the_secondhammer wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...

reapers my dear, reapers!


No actually this time it was my cat sleeping on top of the computer... again... I need to leave it someplace she can't get to yet.... otherwise it goes all funky for the several hours after she's been sleeping on it... :?

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Nharia1 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...


Isn't there a way to recover stuff if it's "lost"?


Nope... at least not that I'm aware of... :crying::crying::crying: 5 paragraphs... gone, and I was just startung to get to the actual fic part too!:crying::crying::crying:

Sometimes word will do an autosave itself so that when you reopen the program it should have a bar come up on the side with what you were working on previously. Doesn't always happen though.

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If Bioware even wants to give the smallest semblance of listening to their fanbase they won't do some cheap comic wrap up.

I have never seen any group yell louder, or break apart as much **** as this group has in so short a time. Even the "outcry" if you could even call it that for Fallout was a muted thing.

This has reached HUGE proportions and Bioware knows that all eyes are on them. From both the fans, critics and media outlets alike. I'm fairly sure that unless EA actually tells them "****it" and they decide to gamble with their recovery from this by ignoring us  they will actually make a REAL DLC for the endings. Now the only question is will it be up to snuff?

Because even though I can see the damage of removing a lead writer and a director from the project at this stage. I am no longer comfortable with the thought of either Mac walters or Casey Hudson in charge of the creative process anymore.


Well... if they really do that you've got a big new question: Will the dlc be free or not? The answer of this question (talking about possibility) will give EA/BW a boost or either... create more rage among fans. :mellow:

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Nharia1 wrote...

Nope... at least not that I'm aware of... :crying::crying::crying: 5 paragraphs... gone, and I was just startung to get to the actual fic part too!:crying::crying::crying:


*Pats on the back* And this is why we use Libreoffice my dear. To hell with Word...it sucks

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ld1449 wrote...

Nevara wrote...

Cooler heads are prevailing, for the most part.  Tensions are at a low boil, but since there's nothing really going on we're stuck in limbo.  I think that's more frustrating (the not knowing) than knowing bad news.


True true.

Now that I think about it, its something to be proud of.

Think about it, like the guy said Bioware has gotten alot of flack over the years on their games. From anti gays to a conglemeration of other groups that they've pissed off.

Then they screwed with our ending.

Its like a sleeping giant woke up, shoved all groups asside and taught them all how you REALLY make a buisness quail at sheer NERD RAGE!!!!



LOL I love that last line - but I think all of the gaming world is watching this closely.  The genie is out of the bottle - I think we'gve gotten to the point as gamers - we're not going to take the crap that's just been shovelled at us.

There is few more things that is wrong with the game - but because the parts that were done right; were done so right its easily to over look that other stuff......aka broken quest jouneral; LI or lack of them - or lack of conversations with LI.

I felt after thessia - in how we failed; there that point would of been perfect if you had a LI to grab ahold of you and pick you up - and pick them  up if its Liara......missed op but - that's my opinion......

Stuff like Mordin dieing - aka genophage cure was amazing - Legion and Tali.......bringing peace if you did that....Amazing - other parts of the game really was amazing.

It literally does come undone in the last ten minutes.  The whole point of ME1 - thrown out with those simple words - I control the Reapers......

That's why I've always had the theory - this ending is that bad - so disjointed  that it was done on purpose - BW was insanely, brillantly trying not to just indoctrinate our shepards - but us as their audience too. 

They failed on that exacution though - one of the biggest reasons; Ipad app - that app should of been on all platforms; not just Ipad - they had several things you could do on it.  Messages from LI after the game ended which hints your alive and in the hospital.  Almost no one saw them though.  PR did what they could through Twitter - but honestly that app could of been used for so much more PR - more hints - it would of been able to somewhat hold back the tide.

Another problem is - I don't think BW was ready for how fast people beat the game - because of the broken quest journal I missed some side quests - but still the game even without feel of being polished rocked.....until the star child....

Is it so bad its unfixable?  no way - Do I think BW can fix this easily - and they easiest way to write their way out of this is - indoctrination - there are some that don't like the idea - but if you want expanded ending that literally is the only way out.......:)

That's the best way they could go - any other way; scrapping the ending would also create backlash from those that like it.....


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Nevara wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...


I know how you feel.  My word program just shut off unexpectedly without a save.  I guess it hated chapter 2. :crying:

*hugs for you*

 

aye.. speaking of Fan fic... I need to  work on my  head canon ending for my Femshepard... thats all bittersweet in the aftermath of the Reaper war... time to make some coffee and do some rearch... 

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xHezz90 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...


Isn't there a way to recover stuff if it's "lost"?


If you've setted the auto-save each X minutes maybe.
Or if you are not using text note maybe, you can try.

When you write it goes directly on RAM so it isn't recoverable normally. (only with auto-save as example)

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Nharia1 wrote...

Nope... at least not that I'm aware of... :crying::crying::crying: 5 paragraphs... gone, and I was just startung to get to the actual fic part too!:crying::crying::crying:


Bummer....*hugs*

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Nevara wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Nevara wrote...

I am very proud of this group.  We have our highs and lows but it's definitely the lull before the storm if they (BW) wait too much longer.


They won't wait much longer than PAX. If PAX comes and goes and they say nothing **** will hit the fan all over again.

And if PAX comes and goes and all they talk about is some new MP DLC again, we must demonstrate the Rage of the Nerd, and this time its gonna be even worse because by that point, we're being ignored and civility, even among the cooler heads is gonna be REAL hard to find.


True enough.  I'm waiting till PAX to make my final decision.  If the panel can't face the audience on the hard questions then what is the point of sticking around.  Life is full of hard questions and they are in the business of supposedly making people happy.

Whatever comes around the corner with the news the words "artistic integrity" or anything involving the word art in it better not be uttered because it just sounds callow and sadly egocentric.

That reminds me, I better remind my friend to give the group that has torches and pitchforks a wide berth.

They have to know that the first question that's going to be thrown at the panel will be about the ending. Also, I think it would be really funny to see the retake supporters show up in Marauder Shields t-shirts. That would make me giggle.Image IPB

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Nharia1 wrote...

Nope... at least not that I'm aware of... :crying::crying::crying: 5 paragraphs... gone, and I was just startung to get to the actual fic part too!:crying::crying::crying:


Which program you use to write? :mellow:

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Nharia1 wrote...

the_secondhammer wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...

reapers my dear, reapers!


No actually this time it was my cat sleeping on top of the computer... again... I need to leave it someplace she can't get to yet.... otherwise it goes all funky for the several hours after she's been sleeping on it... :?

indoctrinated cat maybe? :D

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the_secondhammer wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

the_secondhammer wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So now I'm pissed... my comp just crashed, and took with it, the fanfic that I was about to save.... so now I've got to start over... what luck...

reapers my dear, reapers!


No actually this time it was my cat sleeping on top of the computer... again... I need to leave it someplace she can't get to yet.... otherwise it goes all funky for the several hours after she's been sleeping on it... :?

indoctrinated cat maybe? :D

lol in the middle of the night all you'll see are these glowing blue eyes like TIM's! Even creepier if that cat starts purring!

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Goikiu wrote...
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I prefer to fight with my mind...
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Goikiu: ...Those are not the endings we're looking for... [waves hand]
Hudson: ...These are not the endings you're looking for...
Walters: ...These are not the endings you're looking for...

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This is similar to everyone waiting for the release date for the old republic, people were sure it would be announced at this event, or that event, they held their breath and it wasnt. The forums would erupt for a few days then people would just get over it. It happened like on a cycle, bit like a reaper invasion...

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Well... if they really do that you've got a big new question: Will the dlc be free or not? The answer of this question (talking about possibility) will give EA/BW a boost or either... create more rage among fans. :mellow:


I doubt it will be free.

To be honest, I'd prefer it NOT to be free.

If they decide early on to make it free they'll cut corners to cut costs. I'd prefer they do everything RIGHT and if I have to pay for the damn thing I'll pay. I wont be HAPPY that I'm paying for WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE ALREADY.

But I'll be happy that it'll be done RIGHT and PROPERLY.

Of course, if they charge me and its still ****, its the last dime they're ever seeing from me.