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Nharia1 wrote...

okay~! Hopefully I can get some comments on it, otherwise I'll be depressed, I mean its not like I wrote it just I can read it... :unsure:


I promise to read it when I'm more coherrent.  And I'll definitely comment on it.  In fact,  I have it open in a tab right now so it's ready for when I get up in 2 or so hours.  Hooray insomnia!!!!=]

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VonVerrikan wrote...

So are there two basic defenses to use against us:

-We're whining
-The game is art

Am I right? That's basically it? I mean when it boils down to it, I think that's all the other camp can do to counter the movement. We're sitting here on all the facts about why it's horrifyingly bad.. I don't see anyone trying to disprove our points. This whole thing is so one-sided it's embarrassing.


pretty spot on. and the second you disprove their one or two points, they're back to calling you self-entitled brat. 
pretty fun, don't ya think? :)

so, i'm off for college. don't burn everything down and the usual. 

#62828
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nitefyre410 wrote...

actually if used properly it  can  be great teaching to and learning tool. You  as writer don't have to worry so much about building the  story universe and characters because they are already there.  What you can  focus on is structure of the plot, how it  flows and if it makes sense.  Working  on how to keep a character in character  and yet have them grow within   what is established.   Kind  like Mordin and   his Genophage work


I took up writing play-by-post RPG's several years ago, which were fan-fic by anyones definition, specifically so I could improve my writing skills. After some three years I ended up on one site that, after I started writing on it, I was told not only included a couple of professional writers but several who wrote for Marvel and DC amongst others...one or two of them congratulated some of of my posts. (I was REALLY glad no one had told me what the standard of writing on that board was before I joined it....)

I never really got around to writting even a short story after school because I didn't have the time. Today I can't sit and type for long because of a bad back, that and never being quite happy with the underlying story. The closest was a 14 chapter story I was writing for fun, until I had to change to a new PC and managed to lose the disks - although going back and reading what I'd done it wasn't a great loss.

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Nevara wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

okay~! Hopefully I can get some comments on it, otherwise I'll be depressed, I mean its not like I wrote it just I can read it... :unsure:


I promise to read it when I'm more coherrent.  And I'll definitely comment on it.  In fact,  I have it open in a tab right now so it's ready for when I get up in 2 or so hours.  Hooray insomnia!!!!=]


I might be passed out by then, or I might be pullin yet another multiple day shift on the line.

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tompuddefoot wrote...

PAX?


Penny Arcade Expo? o_0 6th april.

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VonVerrikan wrote...

So are there two basic defenses to use against us:

-We're whining
-The game is art


I guess that day one DLC that milked us for another 10$ is also part of the art. Art of making money.

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Nevara

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jerobolod wrote...

I don't think my internal filter has ever worked, but I do notice it a lot more when I haven't slept... :devil:

Good luck with getting published! If you ever get a movie deal going and need a screenwriter for the adaptation... :whistle:


I don't have an inner monolgue either.  It just comes out. *shrug*

I thought about turning it into a screenplay at some point.  As long as I get to oversee it because it is my baby after all.  Would probably have to go indy with it because of the topics involved.  Damn puritanical ideas of the US sometimes.

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Nharia1 wrote...

okay~! Hopefully I can get some comments on it, otherwise I'll be depressed, I mean its not like I wrote it just I can read it... :unsure:


Writing as DJBare Stile:

1) Please reduce your quotes, don't make pyramids looks ;)
2) You've got some trouble within your signature image/banner
3) What about putting your work as a link on your signature? 

:wizard:

#62834
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Hey people, been away about a day.

Anything new going on?

#62835
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Aaaaaand I'm back! Holding the line the rest of the day :D

How's everyone doing? I assume no news (since lets face it, the internet would have exploded if Bioware had actually, you know, done/said something!)

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Nharia1

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Goikiu wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

okay~! Hopefully I can get some comments on it, otherwise I'll be depressed, I mean its not like I wrote it just I can read it... :unsure:


Writing as DJBare Stile:

1) Please reduce your quotes, don't make pyramids looks ;)
2) You've got some trouble within your signature image/banner
3) What about putting your work as a link on your signature? 

:wizard:


Just did~! :lol: Ah where is Mr. Bond when you need him :(

#62837
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Nothing new just chillin. Random discussions and what not.

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Nevara wrote...

Writing has to be part insanity, part creativity, part emotion with a dash of magic.

Otherwise you get the ending to ME3 with all space magic and an angry fanbase.  :lol:


You forgot to add hard work to the list.

A lot of people (myself included originally) seem to think that writers sit down for five minutes and then bash out a story. In reality even if you know where everything is going and what you want to happen you still have to stop, read what you wrote and think hard about if it all fits and makes sense.

This is why people usually look at stuff they wrote years before and cringe - they didn't stop and look at what they had been writing with a critical eye. 

#62839
Mydknightcloud

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Still here. Mostly lurking, but holding the line.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Just did~! :lol: Ah where is Mr. Bond when you need him :(


If I remember my Bond film formula correctly, now's about the time he escapes from the evil mastermind's trap to help the girl he seduced save the world. He'll be back in a few hours.

Beyond that, any new articles about us or the endings? I know BioWare hasn't said jack.

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Cybermortis

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Nharia1 wrote...
Just did~! :lol: Ah where is Mr. Bond when you need him :(


He had an appointment with a fast car and a red woman...or was it the otherway around <_<

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Nevara wrote...

I don't have an inner monolgue either.  It just comes out. *shrug*

I thought about turning it into a screenplay at some point.  As long as I get to oversee it because it is my baby after all.  Would probably have to go indy with it because of the topics involved.  Damn puritanical ideas of the US sometimes.


Well if you let me adapt it I promise to not include star children or space magic... :wizard:

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Cybermortis wrote...

Nevara wrote...

Writing has to be part insanity, part creativity, part emotion with a dash of magic.

Otherwise you get the ending to ME3 with all space magic and an angry fanbase.  :lol:


You forgot to add hard work to the list.

A lot of people (myself included originally) seem to think that writers sit down for five minutes and then bash out a story. In reality even if you know where everything is going and what you want to happen you still have to stop, read what you wrote and think hard about if it all fits and makes sense.

This is why people usually look at stuff they wrote years before and cringe - they didn't stop and look at what they had been writing with a critical eye. 


Which is a learned skill.  And I agree with you on all points.  It is a lot of hard work to put a story together (whether ff or original).  But writing is a skill that is ever changing and improving for the writer which is why it's all the more rewarding; whether it be for personal reasons or profit.

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STOP TELLING ME TO HOLD THE LINE

i keep getting restraining orders from some lines
sexual harrasment suits from other lines
and to top it off some types of line can get me jailed for having illegal drugs

i hold the FRONT line

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jerobolod wrote...

Nevara wrote...

I don't have an inner monolgue either.  It just comes out. *shrug*

I thought about turning it into a screenplay at some point.  As long as I get to oversee it because it is my baby after all.  Would probably have to go indy with it because of the topics involved.  Damn puritanical ideas of the US sometimes.


Well if you let me adapt it I promise to not include star children or space magic... :wizard:


Deal.  If I see one iota of invisikid anywhere near my work the wrath of the seventh circle of hell will be upon you.  (j/k):police:

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http://jmstevenson.w...-3/#comment-250

This is the best critical ME3 article I read so far......

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chmarr wrote...

STOP TELLING ME TO HOLD THE LINE

i keep getting restraining orders from some lines
sexual harrasment suits from other lines
and to top it off some types of line can get me jailed for having illegal drugs

i hold the FRONT line


Unfortunately, holding the front line will probably get you in more trouble then holding the rear line.

#62848
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Nevara wrote...

Deal.  If I see one iota of invisikid anywhere near my work the wrath of the seventh circle of hell will be upon you.  (j/k):police:


as a deal what about making him go to a Vorcha sex tour if he insert somewhere space magic or strange transparents kiddos? ^_^

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just casually browsing through this document for the third time:

https://docs.google....?pli=1&sle=true

pondering, if it is possible to combine art and a meaningful and lore-abiding plot.

#62850
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Just your usual lurker coming out of the background. Guess not much has happened from what I'm reading and I can't wait till PAX. Since my college likes to be weird my spring break doesn't start till April.

On a side note, I did my Public Speaking report on business and decided to use this trouble with Bioware. It was my job to successfully persuade others to understand why their tactics were either good or bad, bad of course, but I also took a poll on what people wanted in an ending. 99.9% voted for a happy ending/choice so I say the speech was a success and I persuaded others not to buy the game till they fix it!