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[MeldarthX]

Fox544 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

And that's the real challenge, we can only hope that folk can walk away if things get real heated.

I would say the best things the people at PAX can do is come prepared with knowledge.

1) Print off the Dev quotes. The most devistating thing you can do is hold them to their words. They can't hide behind art when they made a product description. If you buy a product based on the description but receive a different product then thats a bait and switch.

2) Print off a fresh screenshot of the IGN poll. A screenshot gives you a date and time so no one can claim its old data. Also the IGN poll is best because it was made by a 3rd part that happens to support BW. If you wanna get really impressive calculate the week 1 sales of 3.3mil and give them the poll ratio and the estimated market ratio.

3) Have a summary of your ending complaints. If I could afford to go I would make a small summary of Angry Joe's Top 10 Reasons We Hate the ME3 Endings. This just helps to organize your thoughts.

Again There are people already going to Pax East that will be doing this - we don't need splinter groups - there is forum Pax East something....I know the guy that organising it is somewhere in this forum also.....whiskey has removed his name right now...


HOLD THE LINE

[Annaleah]

Double post. sorry

Modifié par Annaleah, 27 mars 2012 - 10:11 .

[christrek1982]

MeldarthX wrote...

chmarr wrote...

i started to think that the ending was a massive PR stunt after i saw so many videos, so many theroys and most  of al, the silence from bioware.

they knew we would kick up a stink BUT they never knew that it would hit international news and more,
they never knew it would then affect sales
they never knew it would affect EA stock
they never knew that EA AND AMAZON would offer full refunds

yep bioware did a PR stunt thats went so bad they cant bring themself to say "sorry we screwed up".

we DO KNOW the voice actors behind the male and female shepards have now been pulled in AHEAD of schedule for the DLC recordings due to the uproar this PR stunt has done.
i think bioware will announce a DLC which will answer EVERYTHING (as far as we know).

at PAX i think bioware will come clean in some shape or form and admit they made the ending the way it is to make cash.
IF they did admit it then EVERY other buisnessman, game developer even mainstream websites were all right in what they collectivly said "this is the worst buiseness stratigy EVER created" (well they all said it diffrent ways but they all mean the same thing)

but lets hope bioware gets some major heat at PAX, lets see them all sweat

As I said earlier - BW came out - Look - we hinted but not enough - we wanted to immurss you even more into the game - we have full dlc ending - its almost done or is done etc - I said it better before a couple pages back......
Its Free - its coming to you guys/gals - I hope you understand what we tried to do etc.......

I'd stand back and applaud them - I think most would too and understand what they were trying to do......When business starts to actually realise just how smart gamers are - the fact that we don't play by the old business rules nor will we.  Talk to us freely - we will understand - we may not like the answers we get......

I don't think BW was planning on charging for the ending - I do think they tried to pull off an insanely brillant stunt; but they ran out of time.....

Without that app on other platforms - there was no way to spread the PR  - that is where they failed.....


HOLD THE LINE

wow i've been gone dealing wither other life thing for some time so what the heck is going on? DLC endings? free? is any of this true? can I have a link? sorry my bad miss understod oh well:sick:

Modifié par christrek1982, 27 mars 2012 - 10:14 .

[chmarr]

http://www.hahastop....ting_Moment.htm

[cuzsal]

still holding

[BigglesFlysAgain]

christrek1982 wrote...


wow i've been gone dealing wither other life thing for some time so what the heck is going on? DLC endings? free? is any of this true? can I have a link?

Just lots of speculation from everyone

[Fox544]

MeldarthX wrote...


Again There are people already going to Pax East that will be doing this - we don't need splinter groups - there is forum Pax East something....I know the guy that organising it is somewhere in this forum also.....whiskey has removed his name right now...


HOLD THE LINE

I don't see why that would matter. You're looking for a show of numbers, not organization. If a "splinter group" can hold itself calmly and efficiently then I see no reason to discourage people.

[MeldarthX]

chmarr wrote...


http://www.hahastop....ting_Moment.htm

Hehe so there   fired up red faction and its fun but I was its missing this and this........

[chmarr]

DJBare wrote...

Please try to avoid speculation and rumours, or at the very least stress it as "speculation" and/or "rumour"; anyone familiar with forums will know how quickly these things can get out of hand.

would it freak you out if i said i live in sean connerys house, the one he was in when he was growing up

[TamiBx]

chmarr wrote...


http://www.hahastop....ting_Moment.htm

Well, in our case it's a littler worse than that...

I've had times when I finished video games and didn't know what to do with my life *coughcoug* DA:O *coughcough* but this time I was just..mad. And sad. 

[MeldarthX]

Nevara wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Annaleah wrote...
I still think the best way to protest is to pull a UN and walk out...

Agreed, everyone stands silently then turns and walks to the exit as one, this of course assumes Bioware gives bad news or no news.

It's not only the most respectful thing to do, but I think a visualization of the solidarity of the group could be a profound eye opener.

*Bangs head on desk* I've been to Pax East - No it wouldn't - as I've said - small theaters; a lot of people won't get it; they see a bunch of people leaving.........Extremely Pissed off People - Those that we could of convinced; not any more cause you just ^"^£ them out of a seat.....

It will give ammo to saying we're acting babish; entitled and whining.   The best thing which we have people already doing.  In the Q/A ask them a couple respectful questions; then listen and show who's dodging the questions; and we're actually willing to listen.

Anything else will create PR storm not for BW but for us......


HOLD THE LINE

Modifié par MeldarthX, 27 mars 2012 - 10:19 .

[Victia]

Hey guy just holding the line after a few days absence! Really sad about missing the cupcake drive - was an awesome idea, and feeling slightly more positive about PAX than I was - fingers crossed for some info!

[Darth Garrus]

chmarr wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Please try to avoid speculation and rumours, or at the very least stress it as "speculation" and/or "rumour"; anyone familiar with forums will know how quickly these things can get out of hand.

would it freak you out if i said i live in sean connerys house, the one he was in when he was growing up

Excuse my meddling and my off-topic, but... as a Bond fanatic, yes, it would freak me out.

[DJBare]

chmarr wrote...
would it freak you out if i said i live in sean connerys house, the one he was in when he was growing up

My dear fellow, I do not do "freak"; by the way, if you find that magazing under the floorboards, it's not mine!

[GroverA125]

Nevara wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Annaleah wrote...
I still think the best way to protest is to pull a UN and walk out...

Agreed, everyone stands silently then turns and walks to the exit as one, this of course assumes Bioware gives bad news or no news.

It's not only the most respectful thing to do, but I think a visualization of the solidarity of the group could be a profound eye opener.

Just remember to show up with your pairs attached. If they don't give any news, don't chicken out at that point, that's the major hurdle to jump in this protest plan. No doubt a group of you will sit there thinking "I'm going to be the only one to stand up" and I can assure you that there are sufficient numbers of people who intend to walk should things do pear-shaped, it's all about faith now, if they don't say anything and any number above 20% of the audience leaves, then that's the equivalent of a sharp left hook to the cheek to Bioware.

But frankly, that's not the point, if you don't recieve news or aren't satisfied with what they say, then you walking out for your own reasons, be it you cannot tolerate their stalling and irritating speech any more or you are leaving the franchise for dead, it's your choice, but if you ain't satisfied, make sure that Bioware knows that when you leave.

Hold the line.
Grover and out.

[MeldarthX]

DJBare wrote...

chmarr wrote...
would it freak you out if i said i live in sean connerys house, the one he was in when he was growing up

My dear fellow, I do not do "freak"; by the way, if you find that magazing under the floorboards, it's not mine!

ROTFLMAO - I so heard it in Connery's Bond's voice

[ld1449]

chmarr wrote...

we DO KNOW the voice actors behind the male and female shepards have now been pulled in AHEAD of schedule for the DLC recordings due to the uproar this PR stunt has done.
i think bioware will announce a DLC which will answer EVERYTHING (as far as we know).

When did this come to light? I sure as hell didn't know.

[THX-1136]

lol wtf, beat ME3 again on insanity/7000ems but Javik and Liara came out of the Normandy when I took Liara and Garrus...

I'm confused...

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[CirusTheVirus666]

THX-1136 wrote...

lol wtf, beat ME3 again on insanity/7000ems but Javik and Liara came out of the Normandy when I took Liara and Garrus...

I'm confused...

Same happened to me lol funny thing too, I never used Javik in my first play through.

[chmarr]

DJBare wrote...

chmarr wrote...
would it freak you out if i said i live in sean connerys house, the one he was in when he was growing up

My dear fellow, I do not do "freak"; by the way, if you find that magazing under the floorboards, it's not mine!

pssst then stop telling ppl not to post stuff, the only way this thread gets locked is if we start spouting hate, look at other threads, some have way more images and some have pyramids higher than the ones in egypt.

so please stop i know your wanting to keep it looking tidy but theres a diffrence between asking and demanding and your moving to the demand side slowly

[g_bassi13]

I have a random question. What exactly was up with that gift from Liara at the end? Is it something you get regardless of whether or not she was ever an LI?

[Nharia1]

So any news from the past 6 hours?
*rubs eyes sleepily*

[Nevara]

g_bassi13 wrote...

I have a random question. What exactly was up with that gift from Liara at the end? Is it something you get regardless of whether or not she was ever an LI?

You can do it regardless of status.  She just says she's sharing her memories with you as a way of saying goodbye.

[g_bassi13]

Nevara wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

I have a random question. What exactly was up with that gift from Liara at the end? Is it something you get regardless of whether or not she was ever an LI?

You can do it regardless of status.  She just says she's sharing her memories with you as a way of saying goodbye.

So the part where she hold onto Shepard's arm, and rests her head on his/her shoulders also happens to everyone?