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[Splinter Cell 108]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Woo just inadvertently confirmed we have the actual endings:

the endings are already being discussed in at least three different threads in this forum. Please join one of those. Thank you.

Not the supposed endings, *the* endings.

That confirms nothing IMO, you could easily say that he said "the" endings so no one would suspect nothing. I'm not getting my hopes up but I'm not completely convinced that everything that has been said about the endings is completely true. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait. 

[Unit-Alpha]

scotkrow wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

My game hasn't entered the mail yet,get it tuesday so it probably enters the mail on friday or saturday.Got the CE spent $88.00 got the $43.00 guide,and all I get as a good ending is Shepard dying and Tali and company starving to death while inbreeding?Cancel or not?Heads or tails.

Cancel your order of the guide if you can.  It'll all be on the internet in a few months anyways, I'm surprised Prima even still exists with the internet.

Months? Try days.

[Unit-Alpha]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Woo just inadvertently confirmed we have the actual endings:

the endings are already being discussed in at least three different threads in this forum. Please join one of those. Thank you.

Not the supposed endings, *the* endings.

That confirms nothing IMO, you could easily say that he said "the" endings so no one would suspect nothing. I'm not getting my hopes up but I'm not completely convinced that everything that has been said about the endings is completely true. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait. 

Believe what you want.

[Rob_K1]

albertalad wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

According to Jarret Lee - BW 's Edmonton, Canada rep:

Now, BioWare's Jarret Lee has revealed these might be the last big details about its story that we'll see until its release.

According to a thread on NeoGAF, the developer confirmed on the BioWare forums that the story of Mass Effect 3 won't receive plenty of details, in order to keep spoilers from appearing on the web and ruining the first experience of gamers.

"I've seen the stuff in store for you guys in Mass Effect 3," Lee said. "Be excited, be very excited. Also, other than the attack on Earth, I think we'll try harder this time not to spoil things for you. By the time the game ships you'll be mad about the lack of story info.

Where was this from? The closest I can find is an article from August of last year:

http://www.destructo...em-198421.phtml

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mass-Effect-3-Won-t-See-Its-Story-Spoiled-Before-Release-194324.shtml
Yes, this was an older article I found here:

In any case BW seems to be holding to no commnet as Lee suggest even in the face of this huge blowback. That alone makes me wonder if Lee wasn't on to something.

Cheers for the reply.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Woo just inadvertently confirmed we have the actual endings:

the endings are already being discussed in at least three different threads in this forum. Please join one of those. Thank you.

Not the supposed endings, *the* endings.

That confirms nothing IMO, you could easily say that he said "the" endings so no one would suspect nothing. I'm not getting my hopes up but I'm not completely convinced that everything that has been said about the endings is completely true. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait. 

Believe what you want.

I will. Thanks. No offfense but I think you're overanalyzing things IMO. 

[Unit-Alpha]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I will. Thanks. No offfense but I think you're overanalyzing things IMO. 

No offense taken. I just have a smattering of experience in human psychology, and I'm just putting it to use.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 12:49 .

[Maialeth]

Tazzmission wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

DXLelouch15 wrote...

if these endings are the only ending heads will probably roll

I mentioned it earlier, but if everything is at it stands and plays out as predicted, it will truly be an excellent case study in what NOT to do to a franchise / fanbase, as well as other fascinating elements of the human mind (rationalization, denial, etc). People will hopefully look back and learn from this in future development projects.

I've accepted what will happen as what will happen; no amount of complaining I do will get them to put in the ending I wanted because, in the end, despite my choices, it's still their story and universe.

What happens next, though, from sales to PR backlash..that will be the truly "entertaining" and informative stuff to watch.

well all i can say is as a mass effect fan and i truely do mean this that maybe depending how people react to the game bioware shouldnt listen to its fans then.

and i say this because no matter what the rest of the fanbase demands theyare never happy.

and no im not trying to cause a issue im just stating the oviouse because bioware dosent have to listen to us at all and yet they do wich is nice and shouldnt be taken advantage of.

from all the leaks i saw im going to enjoy the game regardless and remain a mass effect fan im not mad at the devs im furiouse at the fans

There's a big difference between "Someone's always going to be unhappy, you can't please everyone." And "Disappointing 77% of your fans (the numbers last time I checked the admittedly unscientific poll)"


I'll Just reject the endings and makup my own. As far as I'm concerned, if what we know of are the only endings.. The bioware endings no longer exist for me. Will I buy ME3, yes.. I will. Will I buy anything else that may or may not come out in the Mass Effect Universe.. Possibly.. long after it comes out at the used game store. Will I buy anything else Bioware/EA after this.  I'll avoid it like the plague until.. again well after release at a used game store for 70% off. 

[Rdubs]

Looks like the guy should have placed more weight on #2 on the list.
http://kotaku.com/58...t-mass-effect-3

[scotkrow]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

My game hasn't entered the mail yet,get it tuesday so it probably enters the mail on friday or saturday.Got the CE spent $88.00 got the $43.00 guide,and all I get as a good ending is Shepard dying and Tali and company starving to death while inbreeding?Cancel or not?Heads or tails.

Cancel your order of the guide if you can.  It'll all be on the internet in a few months anyways, I'm surprised Prima even still exists with the internet.

Months? Try days.

It will all be up in days,. but it'll be months before one nicely organized site has the entire game at your fingertips.  You'd have to search for bits and pieces here and there before that.  This being said based on experience with Fallout New Vegas and DA2 and ME2.  And Skyrim.

[Ksandor]

vonSlash wrote...

Ksandor wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

vonSlash wrote...

Ksandor wrote...
1) Bioware does not want people ask for more Shepard Mass Effect games. This is why they do not allow a happy ending.

They could just have Shepard die no matter what, in all endings, but have the galaxy (and relay network) survive. Then, fans get a bittersweet ending (after all, the player character is dead), fans get a happy ending (after all, galactic civilization survived the reaper threat without losing the relays, and everyone can build for the future), Bioware gets rid of Shepard, and EA gets a viable intergalactic civilization in which to have Bioware set a ME MMO.

Everyone wins with this outcome, yet they wouldn't do this. <_<

That, and we've already been aware since ME1 that this would be the last entry in Shepard's story. They don't need to completely broadside us with these sorts of endings to get that point across, as most have already made their peace with that fact.

Oh but they want to change the setting and discourage fans from thinking of the old setting. Create a setting where it would be impossible for Shepard to take part in another game even if fans cry for it. They cut the cord... instead of untying the knot so to speak.

If you change the setting enough, how will it be a Mass Effect game?

I mean, it'll have the Mass Effect logo on the cover, but that's no more significant or meaningful than the Fair and Balanced logo that currently disgraces the Fox News symbol.

That's the question is inn't it? Well they appeal to masses... Multiplayer, fancy combat, badasfully cutscenes... Who cares the story or discrepancies? They are moving towards a new setting. But they will retain the Mass Effect name for it is good franchise.

Does new Star Trek movie have anything to do with Star Trek? Does DA2 have anything to do witth DAO? Look I am a 36 years old guy. I do not think like a teenager anymore. I wish I could. I would LOVE this game. But these simple tactics don't amuse me.

But I am also not the main demographic. So Bioware does not sell this game to me actually. They appeal to mainstream. What fans? We are negligible in the great sea called mainstream.

Let's say ME3 did not sell. What will happen? Will they make a better ME next time? Of course not! They will ditch the franchise and move over. Star Trek TOS failed despite fans asking more seasons back in 60s. Because TOS ratings were low and companies did not pay the network for TV commercials. Fans asked sequels but they did not listen them for 20 years! Same here.

As for Casey Hudson and and other Bioware quotes. They are pure PR and marketing rhetoric. Those guys usually don't say those words. PR company writes a memo and with the help of executives they "persuade" them to say nice things but in the end, the end game has little to do with what they say. And as employees they like their work and will defend it. It is about money, career, ego and simple psychology. I understand but I don't condone.

[Bebbe777]

As I said in another thread. Bioware is the new Peter Molyneux

[corkey sweet]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Woo just inadvertently confirmed we have the actual endings:

the endings are already being discussed in at least three different threads in this forum. Please join one of those. Thank you.

Not the supposed endings, *the* endings.

That confirms nothing IMO, you could easily say that he said "the" endings so no one would suspect nothing. I'm not getting my hopes up but I'm not completely convinced that everything that has been said about the endings is completely true. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait. 

Believe what you want.

I will. Thanks. No offfense but I think you're overanalyzing things IMO. 

We really don't know for sure if these are the actual endings. if you don't wan't to buy the game becuase of it. i think you should just wait a week after the game comes out. so you can find out if its true or not

[Unit-Alpha]

Maialeth wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

DXLelouch15 wrote...

if these endings are the only ending heads will probably roll

I mentioned it earlier, but if everything is at it stands and plays out as predicted, it will truly be an excellent case study in what NOT to do to a franchise / fanbase, as well as other fascinating elements of the human mind (rationalization, denial, etc). People will hopefully look back and learn from this in future development projects.

I've accepted what will happen as what will happen; no amount of complaining I do will get them to put in the ending I wanted because, in the end, despite my choices, it's still their story and universe.

What happens next, though, from sales to PR backlash..that will be the truly "entertaining" and informative stuff to watch.

well all i can say is as a mass effect fan and i truely do mean this that maybe depending how people react to the game bioware shouldnt listen to its fans then.

and i say this because no matter what the rest of the fanbase demands theyare never happy.

and no im not trying to cause a issue im just stating the oviouse because bioware dosent have to listen to us at all and yet they do wich is nice and shouldnt be taken advantage of.

from all the leaks i saw im going to enjoy the game regardless and remain a mass effect fan im not mad at the devs im furiouse at the fans

There's a big difference between "Someone's always going to be unhappy, you can't please everyone." And "Disappointing 77% of your fans (the numbers last time I checked the admittedly unscientific poll)"


I'll Just reject the endings and makup my own. As far as I'm concerned, if what we know of are the only endings.. The bioware endings no longer exist for me. Will I buy ME3, yes.. I will. Will I buy anything else that may or may not come out in the Mass Effect Universe.. Possibly.. long after it comes out at the used game store. Will I buy anything else Bioware/EA after this.  I'll avoid it like the plague until.. again well after release at a used game store for 70% off. 

Right, let's assume that everyone is based on the idea of a plurality.

Problem is, the endings are pleasing the minority, not the plurality/majority.

So, Bioware isn't pleasing the plurality (or majority in this case), while they should at the very least be trying to please a majority.

Good business sense.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 12:52 .

[scotkrow]

Maialeth wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

DXLelouch15 wrote...

if these endings are the only ending heads will probably roll

I mentioned it earlier, but if everything is at it stands and plays out as predicted, it will truly be an excellent case study in what NOT to do to a franchise / fanbase, as well as other fascinating elements of the human mind (rationalization, denial, etc). People will hopefully look back and learn from this in future development projects.

I've accepted what will happen as what will happen; no amount of complaining I do will get them to put in the ending I wanted because, in the end, despite my choices, it's still their story and universe.

What happens next, though, from sales to PR backlash..that will be the truly "entertaining" and informative stuff to watch.

well all i can say is as a mass effect fan and i truely do mean this that maybe depending how people react to the game bioware shouldnt listen to its fans then.

and i say this because no matter what the rest of the fanbase demands theyare never happy.

and no im not trying to cause a issue im just stating the oviouse because bioware dosent have to listen to us at all and yet they do wich is nice and shouldnt be taken advantage of.

from all the leaks i saw im going to enjoy the game regardless and remain a mass effect fan im not mad at the devs im furiouse at the fans

There's a big difference between "Someone's always going to be unhappy, you can't please everyone." And "Disappointing 77% of your fans (the numbers last time I checked the admittedly unscientific poll)"


I'll Just reject the endings and makup my own. As far as I'm concerned, if what we know of are the only endings.. The bioware endings no longer exist for me. Will I buy ME3, yes.. I will. Will I buy anything else that may or may not come out in the Mass Effect Universe.. Possibly.. long after it comes out at the used game store. Will I buy anything else Bioware/EA after this.  I'll avoid it like the plague until.. again well after release at a used game store for 70% off. 

Pissing off 70 something % of the fans posting here, and maybe a third of that who don't know yet, and the rest of us here don't care/don't believe this.  And the rest who don't care aren't posting and all together I think the acceptence and anger are split 50/50.  Cause I'm not even counting people who will become fans because of this or the fans who aren't even on the forums at all.

[humes spork]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Woo just inadvertently confirmed we have the actual endings:

the endings are already being discussed in at least three different threads in this forum. Please join one of those. Thank you.

Not the supposed endings, *the* endings.

Without commentary on the likelihood or veracity of this discussion, technically we are discussing the game's endings. We could be totally wrong, with unfounded, out-of-context and asspulled information, and currently unable to find the reality of the game's endings with a map and compass, but we would still be discussing the game's endings nevertheless.

I wouldn't read too much into that, it's just to keep the entire front page of the forum from being choked to death with spam topics about the endings when there's already a near-300 page thread dedicated to that very topic.

[Unit-Alpha]

humes spork wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Woo just inadvertently confirmed we have the actual endings:

the endings are already being discussed in at least three different threads in this forum. Please join one of those. Thank you.

Not the supposed endings, *the* endings.

Without commentary on the likelihood or veracity of this discussion, technically we are discussing the game's endings. We could be totally wrong, with unfounded, out-of-context and asspulled information, and currently unable to find the reality of the game's endings with a map and compass, but we would still be discussing the game's endings nevertheless.

I wouldn't read too much into that, it's just to keep the entire front page of the forum from being choked to death with spam topics about the endings when there's already a near-300 page thread dedicated to that very topic.

Perhaps. Just be dropping a bit of psychology.

[The5Virtues]

So I've tried to keep out of this much as I could because I've been a pretty active critic of Bioware for a long time now. My goal here was to just sit down and shut up so as not to add any fuel to the flames... But I'm actually going to try and show a silver lining here for those of us really upset about the ending options.

That silver lining, at least as I see it, is the fun of the Multiplayer side of the game. I don't know about y'all but when I get three friends together with me and we're all playing this game we have an absolute blast. We've played those two maps in the demo for an hour or more every day since the demo was put out.

This morning I was preparing to cancel my preorder when I realized something... Even if I no longer want anything to do with the singleplayer, I haven't had this much fun in multiplayer since the first couple months of Left 4 Dead 2!   It's worth my sixty bucks just to have that much fun with my friends, it will provide us at least a month of solid enjoyable entertainment every weekend when we get off work or home from class.

Actually I just thought of an even bigger bonus, now I won't ****** away another 10-30 bucks on DLC!  The only DLC I'd buy now would be another multiplayer component. I was all set to chalk up 10 bucks for the launch day DLC, but now that I've heard the ending options for the game I just don't care enough to invest anymore money or time into it singleplayer.  I'll give the singleplayer a play through just to finish up the game on my main save, but after that my only concern or reason for play will be the joy of ME3 multiplayer with a full squad of friends.

[Quartof]

Make a diss rap directed at Bioware. All of you.

Just do it. Write it, sing it, and put that thing on Youtube. Diss Bioware like nothing has ever been dissed before.

[Capeo]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Woo just inadvertently confirmed we have the actual endings:

the endings are already being discussed in at least three different threads in this forum. Please join one of those. Thank you.

Not the supposed endings, *the* endings.

That confirms nothing IMO, you could easily say that he said "the" endings so no one would suspect nothing. I'm not getting my hopes up but I'm not completely convinced that everything that has been said about the endings is completely true. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait. 

Believe what you want.

I will. Thanks. No offfense but I think you're overanalyzing things IMO. 

You know what does confirm things?  The people who have been playing the game for days, and in the case of Tank on SA months.  Everything they said has been shown to be true by the video leaks.  Things that were never in the script.  So.... either they are the luckiest liars on the planet or, the obvious conclusion, they are right.

[corkey sweet]

one thing i know for sure!

i wan't to shoot Ashley Williams in the face, and live happily ever after with Miranda.Lol

[Unit-Alpha]

corkey sweet wrote...

one thing i know for sure!

i wan't to shoot Ashley Williams in the face, and live happily ever after with Miranda.Lol

Your picture makes that clear

[RazorrX]

corkey sweet wrote...

one thing i know for sure!

i wan't to shoot Ashley Williams in the face, and live happily ever after with Miranda.Lol

I *think* you can shoot Ashley, but the ending kind of shoots the Miranda thing in the foot more or less.

[farlander28]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I will. Thanks. No offfense but I think you're overanalyzing things IMO. 

Over-analyze this: (*MASSIVE SPOILER WARNING*)

[corkey sweet]

RazorrX wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

one thing i know for sure!

i wan't to shoot Ashley Williams in the face, and live happily ever after with Miranda.Lol

I *think* you can shoot Ashley, but the ending kind of shoots the Miranda thing in the foot more or less.

what about jack? i have multiple save files. lol

[blueruin]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I will. Thanks. No offfense but I think you're overanalyzing things IMO. 

No offense taken. I just have a smattering of experience in human psychology, and I'm just putting it to use.

Smattering being the operative word, apparently.