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garytwine wrote...

You know, if they ever get round to making that live action movie there's no way in hell the director would use the current ending to finish a trilogy. Maybe Bioware should of spoken to Ridley Scott before they started any work on Mass Effect 3's ending.


I just figure if they do get the live action movie done that it won't have anything to do with the story of the games. It will be like mass effect iphone game with jacob. something in the universe but not really tied to the big stuff.

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Hi, im late arrival to the party that seems to be going on for while... just finished the game since i got directed here to voice my concerns, gonna do so, hoping Bioware does read this.
So my concerns are : Why after 2 games where we had choice to choose ending we wanted we get ripped off like this now ? Why Sheppard has to die, why even IF Sheppard survives he has to be parted from his love (romanced option Liara for me) since rellays blew up and Normandy crashed somewhere(seems no one knows where), why Geth and EDI has to die.
So, could you please make one truly GOOD ending where Sheppard gets to live on with his love, geth and EDI live, rellays dont blow up and also that makes some REMOTE sense.
Let me be clear i have ME1, ME2 and all DLCs there are, i have been paragon through all games, kept all squad members alive at ME2 and ME1(Wrex), played all side missions, scanned all planets got all upgrades in ME2 and ME3 i got all reinforcemets for end battle talked with all squad mates and made all best paragon choices did all side missions and i CANT get my good ending ... ? I mean i did everything possible and i get ripped off so badly in end its really sad, getting robbed of my good ending i wanna see while i could do just that in ME 1 and ME 2, really Bioware SHAME on you, for not making at least one rainbows and unicorns ending for us, hope it gets fixed.
IF you want to get rid of hero why not just make Sheppard retire with his love or do spectre stuff somewhere and you can go visit them for some help or information at ME4. Also game should really display effort u put in it like incorporate fleets and forces you put together at finale battle, for exaple i got alliance Arias fleet (Blood pack, blue suns, eclipse), Vollus bombing fleet etc.. but saw them no where at end.

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Meteor_VII wrote...

I just had a thought that if you transfer the Mass Effect series into movie form that I don't think Mass Effect 3 would of made it into theaters.


There IS a Mass Effect film in the works...in fact one reason for suspecting that BW *might* release a new ending is that unless ME3 sales increase, and the series stops being considered a very bad joke, chances are that the studio would put the film on hold - And a ME film could potentially pull in more money than the rest of the entire franchise has to date.

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...
So when does the toxin take effect again? :devil:


The day after they give their talk at PAX...unless we provide the antidote of course. So no pressure ^_^

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chujwamdotego wrote...

You can come only to conclussions:
A. they've all lost their minds, which I do not believe,
B. it is planned from the very beginning and possibly - in spite of what we think - they didn't even loose control over it.


Or they just didn't expect us to stand up like this. They know fans will complain, always do. The perfect scores given by the mainstream game sites would hopefully drown out the complaints of the unsatisfied and BW could pretend like nothing happened (*points to DA2*). But I don't think anyone could have foreseen this 'organized' (in a sense) campaign.

Modifié par wicked_being, 28 mars 2012 - 07:48 .


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TamiBx wrote...

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Cupcakes are already delivered... There is an article on the net about it with a copy of the invoice.


It says March 30th on it. :huh:


EDIT: check the date http://www.ibtimes.c...ns-cupcakes.htm


Ok... I'm an idiot, because the order date says the 30th. The article says delivered and arrived with comments from fans which was written the 27th and the invoice date was the 26th. Can't write an invoice before the order date right? Lol.

So I'm lead to believe I've been mislead by the article or fuss cupcakes. Sounds like to ending to ME3... lol

Modifié par Teacher50, 28 mars 2012 - 07:48 .


#64157
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FinalEndeavor wrote...

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This just in:

Disappointed Fans Send Bioware 402 Cupcakes In Protest


So Much Win!!!!!!



Send RGB M&Ms next. Keep them on a sugar high. Image IPB

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Now I am completly stuck on Pinkie Pie singing about cupcakes ... great...

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garytwine wrote...

You know, if they ever get round to making that live action movie there's no way in hell the director would use the current ending to finish a trilogy. Maybe Bioware should of spoken to Ridley Scott before they started any work on Mass Effect 3's ending.



if the ME movies were EVER made they will rewrite the entire series, have him getting a human love intrest, popular chars wont be in it etc etc etc.

look what happend in transformers, Jazz was one of the main chars in every cartoon series and what did bay do, killed him near the end of the movie.

the last transformers movie bay killed starscream and megatron because bay dident want to do a 4th movie and he said he dident want any more transformers movies.


he admited that he wants to do a 4th movie even tho he hates it now -_-

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firstarioch wrote...

I also wanted to say this.
Have you guys experience same thing as me after finishing ME3.
I have lost interest in videogames. Imean I play occasional arcade racer etc but rarely.
I don't read magazines ( usually Game or Edge in Uk as they cater to mature gamer) nor I'm interested in any games.
Never happened to me before.
Its almost like um emotionally drained after that anticlimax ending.
Its just bad.
I don't know what do with it.


Thats how i feel too, its really weird. i mean usually when im done with a single player game i spent some days not playing anything, thinking about the game i just finished, or i might play it again if there is a chance of different endings or stuff like that but then life just goes on and i play other games. but right now i couldnt care less. i dont feel like playing anything what so ever, or looking forward to any new games. all i do instead of playing is lurking around in this forum here hoping for some good news.

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Doppelgaenger wrote...

Now I am completly stuck on Pinkie Pie singing about cupcakes ... great...



MAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

pinkie pie FTW

#64162
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Darth Suetam wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Or possibly they just hadn't finished working on it at that point.

Consider that we know from material BW allowed to be released that they had to remove some material related to the ending because they were having problems getting it to work in the time they had left. It is not inconceivable that the ending we got was only finished at the very last minute, after they'd sent out review copies.



Well, it couldn't possibly have taken too long to copy "Deux ex" endings...


:D So true. Even if they needed inspiration from another source for the endings because they couldn't figure out how they wanted to end it, the Deus Ex endings don't fit the Mass Effect universe. They fit Deus Ex, as you were trying to find a solution for all of the chaos that had fallen over the world. You knew throughout the story what choices you were probably going to be given.

In ME3, it just came out of nowhere. I mean, what happened to just trying to destroy the reapers? Nope, we have to listen to StarChild give three options that were NEVER even touched upon throughout the whole series. Destroying the reapers was always the goal, but not by sacrificing all synthetic life. And controling the reapers only came into play in the last two missions and was just like a "huh?" option. And the synthesis ending was a total WTF moment for me. Really? After three games of exploring such a rich diverse galaxy, Shepard is single handedly going to make everyone half synthetic/half organic.

At least in Deus Ex, only JC merged with Heilos. No way was I going to synthesize every being in the galaxy. And those endings are bittersweet, huh? No, more like not fitting with series... at all. 

#64163
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TamiBx wrote...

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SSV Auckland reporting back in.

Wow I can't even spend more than two hours away from here before I come back *sigh*

To this though, the cupcake thing. That right there is priceless, when I heard about it I was a bit skeptical but it really is quite ingenious.


I can't quite remember what I used to do with my life before I started holding the line...:huh:


You were: TamiBx, Varren Tamer Extrodinaire !

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wicked_being wrote...

Or they just didn't expect us to stand up like this. They know fans will complain, always do. The perfect scores given by the mainstream game sites would hopefully drown out the complaints of the unsatisfied and BW could pretend like nothing happened (points to DA2). But I don't think anyone could have foreseen this 'organized' (in a sense) campaign.


They may be awed and surprised by our unity, but even if fandom didn't come together like this, they would be killing milking cow IF they haven't prepared themselves. Their move with endings - if accidental - would be as much against simple business logic as possible. No sane manager - let alone powerful, worldwide corporation - would allow something like this.

I just want to say that the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that Bioware is following carefully planned marketing strategy. THEY achieved first target - got worldwide attention.

Now they may move to second target - make fans happy.

That way the can score two targets.

Modifié par chujwamdotego, 28 mars 2012 - 07:56 .


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Stumbled across this:


Really explains what the whole debacle is about and how they could go about fixing it.
Don't know if this was already posted.

#64166
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chujwamdotego wrote...

Good evening everyone.

Just wanted to check in and say that I'm still holding the line with You, even though I do not write to much.

I just wanted to say that tonight I'm really hopeful about this whole ordeal Bioware funded us. I don't even know why, I just have a sort of gut feeling.

All things that occured don't add up. If You carefully think about:
1. Bioware's experience in developing games,
2. unnatural silence of Bioware's PR, CEOs, etc.,
3. complete, utter lack of primary logic in Bioware's behaviour,
4. lack of elementary logic in ME 3 endings,
You can come only to conclussions:
A. they've all lost their minds, which I do not believe,
B. it is planned from the very beginning and possibly - in spite of what we think - they didn't even loose control over it.



well today EA stock dropped 5% and that was an hour ago so if its went up or dropped more thats a bad thing
bioware "unnatural silence" and avoidance of answers to questions is not a good sign either.

you forgot this one

C:- they changed it because of the script leak and decided to punish the consumer for there incompidence

but i do agree with you and i highly suspect that it is indeed "B" but they have lost control due to the worldwide outcry by the ever growing number of players who have finished it, even people who supported the current end ings have started to change there minds.

so bioware is on a train with no brakes going downhill

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Speedwolf11 wrote...

Hi, im late arrival to the party that seems to be going on for while... just finished the game......


Welcome, you are among friends now.

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chmarr wrote...

/snip/

you forgot this one

C:- they changed it because of the script leak and decided to punish the consumer for there incompidence

so bioware is on a train with no brakes going downhill


We only suspect that script leak may have had something to do with those crappy endings.

If presented by You option C was right (and it is of course possible) then it would mean they sank their own ship.

In this case they wouldn't be worth attention and our trust.

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RatedRRachel wrote...


:D So true. Even if they needed inspiration from another source for the endings because they couldn't figure out how they wanted to end it, the Deus Ex endings don't fit the Mass Effect universe. They fit Deus Ex, as you were trying to find a solution for all of the chaos that had fallen over the world. You knew throughout the story what choices you were probably going to be given.

In ME3, it just came out of nowhere.

 (edited for size)



Exactly. The same ending in ME3 is just pushing it. It doesn't fit.

It's just when you realize that the ending was copied from another game is that you begin to understando why ME3 endings just have nothing to do with the rest of the game!!!

It's quite obvious that something happened. Was it lack of time? Is this ending just a "replacement part", waiting to be changed for the real one? That would make sense. More than the endings, at least...

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Detroit is still holding the line - at least until Witcher 2 comes out April 17th - then Detroit is trading in...

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Bad thing is we have to wait till PAX for a decent answer.

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For those of you talking about a Mass Effect film;

As I noted one is already in the works, and was mentioned at Com-Con back in August;

http://geektyrant.co...vie-update.html

http://screenrant.co...ory-rob-140975/


Note that the film would still be in the very early stages of development, and as far as I can tell they have not finished - or possibly even started, casting yet.

Modifié par Cybermortis, 28 mars 2012 - 08:15 .


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chujwamdotego

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Is something wrong with thread?

Either there is a problem with my refresh screen or there has been no new post for over 7 minutes.

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chujwamdotego wrote...

Is something wrong with thread?

Either there is a problem with my refresh screen or there has been no new post for over 7 minutes.


Quick scream! That will help! (just a pic)

It is just that everyone is waiting for things to go on. The ball is firmly in Biowares court.

Edit: Alternatively the Hold The Line community Forum might have some news. They are quick there.

http://www.holdtheline.co/forum/

Modifié par Doppelgaenger, 28 mars 2012 - 08:17 .


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Doppelgaenger wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

Is something wrong with thread?

Either there is a problem with my refresh screen or there has been no new post for over 7 minutes.


Quick scream! That will help! (just a pic)

It is just that everyone is waiting for things to go on. The ball is firmly in Biowares court.


:D That paiting shows my ugly face when I saw the ending. Didn't touch any game since then :crying: