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[scotkrow]

Have any LI whiners stopped and thought, "Hey, my LI isn't in the squad, so isn't a member of a the crew, so they might not be on the Normandy", So only if your LI is Kadien/Ashley/Tali/Garrus/or if the new crew is romanceable will any of you idiots have anything to worry about. So shut it!

[ArkkAngel007]

Rdubs wrote...

Looks like the guy should have placed more weight on #2 on the list.
http://kotaku.com/58...t-mass-effect-3

So a controversial ending makes it equal to that mess of a game?  I don't think so.

[Unit-Alpha]

scotkrow wrote...

Have any LI whiners stopped and thought, "Hey, my LI isn't in the squad, so isn't a member of a the crew, so they might not be on the Normandy", So only if your LI is Kadien/Ashley/Tali/Garrus/or if the new crew is romanceable will any of you idiots have anything to worry about. So shut it!

Or Liara.

Or like any of the aforementioned characters. The characters are much more important than some romantic subplot.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 01:01 .

[Tazzmission]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Maialeth wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

DXLelouch15 wrote...

if these endings are the only ending heads will probably roll

I mentioned it earlier, but if everything is at it stands and plays out as predicted, it will truly be an excellent case study in what NOT to do to a franchise / fanbase, as well as other fascinating elements of the human mind (rationalization, denial, etc). People will hopefully look back and learn from this in future development projects.

I've accepted what will happen as what will happen; no amount of complaining I do will get them to put in the ending I wanted because, in the end, despite my choices, it's still their story and universe.

What happens next, though, from sales to PR backlash..that will be the truly "entertaining" and informative stuff to watch.

well all i can say is as a mass effect fan and i truely do mean this that maybe depending how people react to the game bioware shouldnt listen to its fans then.

and i say this because no matter what the rest of the fanbase demands theyare never happy.

and no im not trying to cause a issue im just stating the oviouse because bioware dosent have to listen to us at all and yet they do wich is nice and shouldnt be taken advantage of.

from all the leaks i saw im going to enjoy the game regardless and remain a mass effect fan im not mad at the devs im furiouse at the fans

There's a big difference between "Someone's always going to be unhappy, you can't please everyone." And "Disappointing 77% of your fans (the numbers last time I checked the admittedly unscientific poll)"


I'll Just reject the endings and makup my own. As far as I'm concerned, if what we know of are the only endings.. The bioware endings no longer exist for me. Will I buy ME3, yes.. I will. Will I buy anything else that may or may not come out in the Mass Effect Universe.. Possibly.. long after it comes out at the used game store. Will I buy anything else Bioware/EA after this.  I'll avoid it like the plague until.. again well after release at a used game store for 70% off. 

Right, let's assume that everyone is based on the idea of a plurality.

Problem is, the endings are pleasing the minority, not the plurality/majority.

So, Bioware isn't pleasing the plurality (or majority in this case), while they should at the very least be trying to please a majority.

Good business sense.

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

[WarBaby2]

Quartof wrote...

Make a diss rap directed at Bioware. All of you.

Just do it. Write it, sing it, and put that thing on Youtube. Diss Bioware like nothing has ever been dissed before.

And to what end exactly? So they aknowledge the game may have had problems 6 months later, as they did with DA2?

It's useless... DA2 still performed good on the market... and ME3 will perform a whole lot better in terms of financial success and as far as the media is concearned. All the great reviewers that already got to fully test the game (sure, not many yet) say the game is "the best in the series", a "perfect ending for the trillogy" and brings "total closure" to the story... it's over folks.

[Unit-Alpha]

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 01:04 .

[Ksandor]

And no comments from Bioware. Well in PR business when crap hits the fan you shut up and wait people to cool down. Not ace in the sleeve. Just avoiding flak. Statements made during this period will usually add to the flames. Of course if there are secret endings... I wish this was a marketing ploy and there were secret endings...

[Maialeth]

scotkrow wrote...

Maialeth wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

DXLelouch15 wrote...

if these endings are the only ending heads will probably roll

I mentioned it earlier, but if everything is at it stands and plays out as predicted, it will truly be an excellent case study in what NOT to do to a franchise / fanbase, as well as other fascinating elements of the human mind (rationalization, denial, etc). People will hopefully look back and learn from this in future development projects.

I've accepted what will happen as what will happen; no amount of complaining I do will get them to put in the ending I wanted because, in the end, despite my choices, it's still their story and universe.

What happens next, though, from sales to PR backlash..that will be the truly "entertaining" and informative stuff to watch.

well all i can say is as a mass effect fan and i truely do mean this that maybe depending how people react to the game bioware shouldnt listen to its fans then.

and i say this because no matter what the rest of the fanbase demands theyare never happy.

and no im not trying to cause a issue im just stating the oviouse because bioware dosent have to listen to us at all and yet they do wich is nice and shouldnt be taken advantage of.

from all the leaks i saw im going to enjoy the game regardless and remain a mass effect fan im not mad at the devs im furiouse at the fans

There's a big difference between "Someone's always going to be unhappy, you can't please everyone." And "Disappointing 77% of your fans (the numbers last time I checked the admittedly unscientific poll)"


I'll Just reject the endings and makup my own. As far as I'm concerned, if what we know of are the only endings.. The bioware endings no longer exist for me. Will I buy ME3, yes.. I will. Will I buy anything else that may or may not come out in the Mass Effect Universe.. Possibly.. long after it comes out at the used game store. Will I buy anything else Bioware/EA after this.  I'll avoid it like the plague until.. again well after release at a used game store for 70% off. 

Pissing off 70 something % of the fans posting here, and maybe a third of that who don't know yet, and the rest of us here don't care/don't believe this.  And the rest who don't care aren't posting and all together I think the acceptence and anger are split 50/50.  Cause I'm not even counting people who will become fans because of this or the fans who aren't even on the forums at all.

I'd be willing to bet that the final % of players who will be dissatisfied with the endings we currently know of being the only endings will be much higher than 50%. They may not all be filled with Rage about it.. or Extremely angry about it. But if you count those that find the endings  dissappointing  or are otherwise unappy in with those that are varying degrees of Angry and upset about them.. you'll get well over 50% in the end.. I'd almost bet on it.

[Ksandor]

Double post

Modifié par Ksandor, 02 mars 2012 - 01:05 .

[Rob_K1]

As I said in another thread, the only real thing I can add regarding the endings that others perhaps haven't said or linked are these two quotes from Twitter a ways down the page, from 10 hours ago as of posting this:

https://twitter.com/#!/manveerheir

you have to wait and see and not believe everything you read. Play the game instead of reading a forum

I'm not really worried about people who don't know how the game goes think it all ends

(end of quotes)

Of course, this could just be marketing talk or damage control. So, it's up to you what you make of it.

[Zulmoka531]

Let's not forget that whole thing about not importing your Shepard on the first play through that was on the General discussion a while back. I'm sure that sent up some warning flags.

[Unit-Alpha]

Maialeth wrote...

I'd be willing to bet that the final % of players who will be dissatisfied with the endings we currently know of being the only endings will be much higher than 50%. They may not all be filled with Rage about it.. or Extremely angry about it. But if you count those that find the endings  dissappointing  or are otherwise unappy in with those that are varying degrees of Angry and upset about them.. you'll get well over 50% in the end.. I'd almost bet on it.

No doubt. The majority of people defending the endings here are Biodrones. Mainstream-wise, there are very few Biodrones that will defend this action; sure, some people will enjoy the death in the ending, but the truth of the matter is that less than 30% of the total population will like these endings.

[blueruin]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.

Pretty sure you don't know much about psychology or business and your condescending attitude is entirely unjustified.

[Rob_K1]

Where was that importing thing actually mentioned btw and was it official? Xoi, if the leaks are to be believed, imported I think?

And as always, I'm not saying whether the leaks are true or not. I'm just commiting to either idea and the leaks don't bother me.

Modifié par Rob_K1, 02 mars 2012 - 01:08 .

[Tazzmission]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

 heres the ultimate 6 million doallar question


when has mass effect ever been labeled just souly a rpg? last i checked its a action rpg

[Unit-Alpha]

blueruin wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.

Pretty sure you don't know much about psychology or business and your condescending attitude is entirely unjustified.

Tell me how I'm wrong, then?

Neither is yours.

[Ksandor]

Rob_K1 wrote...

As I said in another thread, the only real thing I can add regarding the endings that others perhaps haven't said or linked are these two quotes from Twitter a ways down the page, from 10 hours ago as of posting this:

https://twitter.com/#!/manveerheir

you have to wait and see and not believe everything you read. Play the game instead of reading a forum

I'm not really worried about people who don't know how the game goes think it all ends

(end of quotes)

Of course, this could just be marketing talk or damage control. So, it's up to you what you make of it.

Or secret endings... I wish. Not hopeful.

[Tazzmission]

blueruin wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.

Pretty sure you don't know much about psychology or business and your condescending attitude is entirely unjustified.

thank you. hell im not even a buisness major and its sad that i know more than he does

[Unit-Alpha]

Tazzmission wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

 heres the ultimate 6 million doallar question


when has mass effect ever been labeled just souly a rpg? last i checked its a action rpg

I never labeled it as such. It has always been an action RPG and people who think otherwise are just hoping for a full on RPG.

[dw99027]

You have to admit it's funny when people actually accuse Electronic Arts for NOT going with the most 'popular', and thus more 'money ensuring' option... I know, future settings and all, but still quite ironic when taken out of context .

On the other hand judging the endings out of context is perfectly rational, lol.

[Zulmoka531]

Rob_K1 wrote...

Where was that importing thing actually btw and was it official? Xoi, if the leaks are to be believed, imported I think?

And as always, I'm not saying whether the leaks are true or not. I'm just commiting to either idea and the leaks don't bother me.

Eh, I don't know if I'd call it "Official" but:
http://social.biowar...3/index/9293402

It was stickied actually, in favor of the Twitter thread for a while.

[Unit-Alpha]

Tazzmission wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.

Pretty sure you don't know much about psychology or business and your condescending attitude is entirely unjustified.

thank you. hell im not even a buisness major and its sad that i know more than he does

Tell me how I'm wrong.

[Switish]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

Let's not forget that whole thing about not importing your Shepard on the first play through that was on the General discussion a while back. I'm sure that sent up some warning flags.

What what what ?! how come

Edit. Actually no dont tell me....

Modifié par Switish, 02 mars 2012 - 01:10 .

[Tazzmission]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?

to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers

Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.

 heres the ultimate 6 million doallar question


when has mass effect ever been labeled just souly a rpg? last i checked its a action rpg

I never labeled it as such. It has always been an action RPG and people who think otherwise are just hoping for a full on RPG.

well the way your posting makes it sound otherwise. i want to make that clear just so you know

[Splinter Cell 108]

Capeo wrote...

You know what does confirm things?  The people who have been playing the game for days, and in the case of Tank on SA months.  Everything they said has been shown to be true by the video leaks.  Things that were never in the script.  So.... either they are the luckiest liars on the planet or, the obvious conclusion, they are right.

I'm not saying that what people are saying is wrong, maybe I am in denial and don't want to see the truth but something just seems off. Is BioWare really going to screw everyone and the final game in the Mass Effect series? Are they willing to add another black eye to their reputation? That could be the situation especially since it happened with DA2. However there were many instances were things seemed bad and they weren't. Some examples were the idea of non-permanent squadmates and dialogue being shortened. I'm buying the game regardless because I don't find the endings to be that bad but either way I would still want my good ending. I wasn't expecting the super happy ending where everyone lives happily ever after and I didn't want that either but I don't want something as stupid as what those endings imply.

There is one thing however that I have found no answer to. I've heard a rumor of some "Well Connected" achievement supposedly being tied to an ending in whicn there's some sort of plan made by the Illusive Man to preserve the galaxy's technology, so far the only thing I know is that the description says "send a warning to the galaxy". I'm not discarding the possibility that this is all hogwash and that it has nothing to do with anything related to endings but, I have found no answers though. 

The one thing that bothers me though and its the same thing that has bothered me ever since these rumors have been going on is that BioWare says nothing, they just give us the same PR speak all the times. Hasn't this gone far enough, spoilers or not they should do something about it instead of keeping quiet with everything. Everytime something like this comes up BSN becomes a warzone and BioWare just keeps its mouth shut. I don't know what's real or not with the endings but I will wait until the game comes out before I believe anything.