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Got the Suicide Mission theme from itunes this morning, at the very least great music to go running to!

But man it reminds me of how amazing the SM in ME2 was. There was such a feeling of accomplishment and pride at seeing my team come together and blow up the base... and i don't care if its classified as unrealistic or too positive. It made me want More Mass Effect thats for damn sure.

Its just mind boggling how completely turned around this last ending was.Total Opposite in every way. :pinched:

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nitefyre410 wrote...

chmarr wrote...

*snip* 
*points and scream*

BLASPHAMY NEVER HAVE BROCOILLI OR ANY VEG WITH MEAT

 

*continues to eat with chop sticks* 

U mad? B)


eating steak with chop sticks..... pfffft i use my fingers n hands an teeth RRAAWWRR

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Ender99 wrote...
I don't agree with the indoctrination theory either, so I just avoid those threads. I don't see a point in fighting amongst ourselves while Bioware still hasn't fixed the underlining problem. That and I'd take it over the current ending anyday. I just don't think it is. -sigh-


I hoped Indoc was true for a long time, but now I'm thinking we're just seeing what we want to see.  It was a good way to keep faith in BioWare while explaining how disconnected the endings felt from the rest of the game.

Looking back at ME3 in general though, I am a little disappointed that Shepard's nightmares never really played out to anything besides a short conversation between her and the LI.  I thought, especially after you go to the Cerberus base and look at the Lazarus files, that a more obvious crisis of faith would happen. 

That's partly why the idea of Indocrination Theory 'felt right' to me.  It would mean all Shepard's doubts bubbling under the surface during the entire game would result in something major the player could choose to react to.  If that makes any sense.

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anyone have the face code for the default maleshep face, i want to be able to mod certain parts of it

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Bed time here. Night all.

We will hold the line!

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cogsandcurls wrote...

Evening all! Day 2, and I'm still thinking of more things about the ending that don't make sense. I can't stop thinking about it. It's so ridiculously circular and convoluted that it's like trying to decipher the logic has set my mind into an infinite feedback loop. :/

Anyway, I was bored at lunch today so I wrote you guys a ridiulous parody song! I've been lurking the Take Back the Love thread too (which I guess I'll crosspost to) and the song's partially about that issue too (i.e. the shafting of ME2 romances), or rather about how the two intertwine re: the reason I play these games is because I'm fighting for the galaxy and my squadmates and my LI. The ending took my galaxy, it marooned and character assassinated my squadmates, and the game had already destroyed my LI earlier in the game. :< So here's a stupid song about it, to the tune of Mulan's "Girl Worth Fighting For". Hope you don't mind me posting it, but I thought I might as well contribute to the thread since there's been no progress today! Hope it makes at least one person smile.

Cast and Players: For a long time we've been waiting for this battle

                      Cast: 'Cause the Reapers want to butcher us like cattle

Players and Shepard: And this final push, we need to think of why we fight this war!

            Hackett: HEY! Think of it all, the worlds worth fighting for!
                            After it all, the worlds worth fighting for!

                   Tali: Think of the Quarians and Geth
                            Rebuilding side by side

                  Wrex: And how the Krogan will be proud
                             When all my kids arrive

    Garrus, Jack, Jacob: And every drink I promised you
                             We'll drink together
                             When Aria takes back Omega!

               Players: It's the consequences that make it worth fighting
                              They're the motivation that makes it exciting
                              So let's see them all, and spend more time with the ones we adore!

           MaleShep: That's who I want! A girl worth fighting for!
                               I'll build my Tali a new home
                               She'll see with unmasked eyes

                 Writers: Uh...How 'bout Miranda only says
                                She loves you if she dies?

                 Players: ....NAH!

            MaleShep: And surely, though we're both busy
                                Jack won't forget me -
                                We'll both get laid eventually!

             Femshep: When we make love Garrus will take off his armour
                                 And I know Jacob would not cheat on his lover!
                                 And my darling drell, I'll proclaim love
                                 Or else we'll find a cure!
                                 That's what I want! A guy worth fighting for!

Cast and Players: Think of them all, the friends worth fighting for
                                 Galaxy full of worlds worth fighting fo-

                             /The Mass Relays explode, rocks fall, everyone dies, the end/





HAHAHAHAHA!  Mulan!Image IPB

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I'm back. Anything new to be shared in the last 8 hours???

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cogsandcurls wrote...

Evening all! Day 2, and I'm still thinking of more things about the ending that don't make sense. I can't stop thinking about it. It's so ridiculously circular and convoluted that it's like trying to decipher the logic has set my mind into an infinite feedback loop. :/

                   Tali: Think of the Quarians and Geth
                            Rebuilding side by side

                  Wrex: And how the Krogan will be proud
                             When all my kids arrive

  (edited for space)


Yes. By the way, the ending really sucks more when you think of all you achieved for the galaxy in your struggle, throughout 3 games, for galactic peace. You achieved peace with the Quarians and the Geth, but you just "had" to kill all synthetics. And I could go on with examples of how the endings make all your gaming sucks.

Sometimes it feels like they are laughing out loud thinking how they fooled thousands of people into playing the games and feel they were making something nice through their characters.

Modifié par Darth Suetam, 29 mars 2012 - 02:09 .


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I'm baaaaaaaaaaaack! Any news?

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ld1449 wrote...

I'm back. Anything new to be shared in the last 8 hours???


There's this:

RatedRRachel wrote...

So the Bioware fans made it into Kotaku's Power 40 (most powerful people involved in video games) for the month.

http://kotaku.com/58...ans?tag=power40


Also, if you haven't already seen this video, it is worth watching!  A Youtuber lays out all of the background for ME, the plotholes created by the endings, and suggestions on how it can be resolved.  Pretty much sums up everything I was feeling, and also gives insight on why Mass Effect's story is so great (up until the end)
39 minutes long, but worth it!


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New article from the International Business Times about The New Yorker's post and Forbes' reaction. 

http://www.ibtimes.c...t-analysis.htm 

I find it funny that news outlets are now providing analysis of other news outlets reactions to the Retake movement. But at least we are still getting press even though not much is seemingly going to happen/be announced until PAX.  

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SSV Auckland reporting in.

Anything interesting happen in the last 11 hours?

Holding the line!

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xHezz90 wrote...

SSV Auckland reporting in.

Anything interesting happen in the last 11 hours?

Holding the line!


Not that I know of, but I've not really been paying much attention to news lately, I've been waiting for PAX... Oh and I'l post what Anderson says later, since I'm almost at the part, I've finally gotten around to playing today.

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Nharia1 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

SSV Auckland reporting in.

Anything interesting happen in the last 11 hours?

Holding the line!


Not that I know of, but I've not really been paying much attention to news lately, I've been waiting for PAX... Oh and I'l post what Anderson says later, since I'm almost at the part, I've finally gotten around to playing today.


Ah right, didn't really think there would be anything but thought I should ask any way since I honestly cannot be bummed to look through everything I missed lol.
That's cool there is no rush :P

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just in case it got overlooked/lost here is the first part of my alternate ending http://social.biowar...00/blog/212252/
and like i said before be nice(i know all of you will be), its my first time doing something like this :P
let me know what you guys think of it, ill probably have the second part up by tomorrow or something, anyway found a very funny picture in another thread, if i can find it again ill post the link to it, nearly died laughing when i saw it lol
edit:
heres the link to that picture

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xHezz90 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Not that I know of, but I've not really been paying much attention to news lately, I've been waiting for PAX... Oh and I'l post what Anderson says later, since I'm almost at the part, I've finally gotten around to playing today.


Ah right, didn't really think there would be anything but thought I should ask any way since I honestly cannot be bummed to look through everything I missed lol.
That's cool there is no rush :P


True~! Oh and Chapter 3 should be up sometime between 21:00 and some time tomorrow morning (Its 19:42 here right now)

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You know the more i think about it the more i see me3 wasn't very good. It was much too short the areas are bland and uninteresting the side quests are a joke waaaaa wheres my war bible i lost in on a planet i've never been to. The multi player is a joke. You could buy 5000000 spectre bags and never get what you want or 10 and get everything...... bad writing really nothing much interesting other than a few key moments with mordin and grunt... i mean if the ending wasn't so bad.... many people might notice that the game just wasn't great. It was ok until the end but not great like me1 or me2.

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Hey guys, checking in again. Read the new article from The International Business Times. Hold the line

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whoisthis98 wrote...

You know the more i think about it the more i see me3 wasn't very good. It was much too short the areas are bland and uninteresting the side quests are a joke waaaaa wheres my war bible i lost in on a planet i've never been to. The multi player is a joke. You could buy 5000000 spectre bags and never get what you want or 10 and get everything...... bad writing really nothing much interesting other than a few key moments with mordin and grunt... i mean if the ending wasn't so bad.... many people might notice that the game just wasn't great. It was ok until the end but not great like me1 or me2.


I think a lot of us have been seeing that the longer this goes on.  Funny thing is that if the ends hadn't been so bad, we most likely wpuld never have noticed.  At least I am willing to bet I wouldn't have, because I wouldn't have been looking at the game as critically as I have been since I finished my first play through.

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Completely off topic, but does this make anyone else feel uncomfortable?

Back on topic;
If BioWare doesn't come up with something decent for us, I'm going to just ditch BioWare all together. Just stick with Bathesda and CCP. Bathesda changed the end of Fallout for its fans and CCP restructured its entire company for fans.  So I think those 2 deserve my love and admiration, as well as my $$.

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RatedRRachel wrote...

New article from the International Business Times about The New Yorker's post and Forbes' reaction. 

http://www.ibtimes.c...t-analysis.htm 

I find it funny that news outlets are now providing analysis of other news outlets reactions to the Retake movement. But at least we are still getting press even though not much is seemingly going to happen/be announced until PAX.  


I find it rather crazy how much press we're getting.. in the world of the 24-hour news cycle RetakeME3 has had consistent daily articles for going on 3 weeks now... and when PAX hits you can expect another glut of articles.  It's almost scary.  We've been hitting an almost cosmic alignment for new content that keeps the cycle going along with a lack of anything else (eg: terrorists, political scandal, alien invasion... heck we ARE the alien invasion technically)... and of course we have cupcakes... can't beat cupcakes for feel good stories ;)

I can't stop reading through the articles at work at lunch, it's almost funny how far this has gone, I'm amazed everyday haha.

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whoisthis98 wrote...

You know the more i think about it the more i see me3 wasn't very good. It was much too short the areas are bland and uninteresting the side quests are a joke waaaaa wheres my war bible i lost in on a planet i've never been to. The multi player is a joke. You could buy 5000000 spectre bags and never get what you want or 10 and get everything...... bad writing really nothing much interesting other than a few key moments with mordin and grunt... i mean if the ending wasn't so bad.... many people might notice that the game just wasn't great. It was ok until the end but not great like me1 or me2.


I actually disagree with you on this one. I really enjoyed ME3, it was literally only the ending that I couldn't stand. It's true that sidequests weren't too interesting but I felt the main story was really well done.
But hey that's just my opinion.

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xHezz90 wrote...

whoisthis98 wrote...

You know the more i think about it the more i see me3 wasn't very good. It was much too short the areas are bland and uninteresting the side quests are a joke waaaaa wheres my war bible i lost in on a planet i've never been to. The multi player is a joke. You could buy 5000000 spectre bags and never get what you want or 10 and get everything...... bad writing really nothing much interesting other than a few key moments with mordin and grunt... i mean if the ending wasn't so bad.... many people might notice that the game just wasn't great. It was ok until the end but not great like me1 or me2.


I actually disagree with you on this one. I really enjoyed ME3, it was literally only the ending that I couldn't stand. It's true that sidequests weren't too interesting but I felt the main story was really well done.
But hey that's just my opinion.


My main beef besides the Ending and Thane's treatment is the Quest Management system. It had me *facepalm*ing throughout the game.

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Computim wrote...

RatedRRachel wrote...

New article from the International Business Times about The New Yorker's post and Forbes' reaction. 

http://www.ibtimes.c...t-analysis.htm 

I find it funny that news outlets are now providing analysis of other news outlets reactions to the Retake movement. But at least we are still getting press even though not much is seemingly going to happen/be announced until PAX.  


I find it rather crazy how much press we're getting.. in the world of the 24-hour news cycle RetakeME3 has had consistent daily articles for going on 3 weeks now... and when PAX hits you can expect another glut of articles.  It's almost scary.  We've been hitting an almost cosmic alignment for new content that keeps the cycle going along with a lack of anything else (eg: terrorists, political scandal, alien invasion... heck we ARE the alien invasion technically)... and of course we have cupcakes... can't beat cupcakes for feel good stories ;)

I can't stop reading through the articles at work at lunch, it's almost funny how far this has gone, I'm amazed everyday haha.


Cuuupcaaaakes....

Heh.  Glad to see things are still proceeding smoothly; been trying to rekindle the life I kinda left behind for 2 weeks staying on the forum.

I check in several times a day, though, to make sure morale is holding and such =)

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xHezz90 wrote...

whoisthis98 wrote...

You know the more i think about it the more i see me3 wasn't very good. It was much too short the areas are bland and uninteresting the side quests are a joke waaaaa wheres my war bible i lost in on a planet i've never been to. The multi player is a joke. You could buy 5000000 spectre bags and never get what you want or 10 and get everything...... bad writing really nothing much interesting other than a few key moments with mordin and grunt... i mean if the ending wasn't so bad.... many people might notice that the game just wasn't great. It was ok until the end but not great like me1 or me2.


I actually disagree with you on this one. I really enjoyed ME3, it was literally only the ending that I couldn't stand. It's true that sidequests weren't too interesting but I felt the main story was really well done.
But hey that's just my opinion.


There were little nitpicky things that I didn't like. And they did do away with a lot of elements from the first two games (after every main mission cutscene dialogue with squad, bypassing/hacking puzzles, etc...). But honestly, if the ending was amazing, I could have dealt with them. The emotion throughout the whole game was so well done... until they went ahead and introduced a character in the last five minutes of the game.

For 100+ hours, I have been playing as Shepard and loved interacting with my crew and the world around me, but now you force me into listening to someone I care/know nothing about. The space magic is horrible, but for me, it all comes back to StarChild. Before the true space magic even begins, it was totally wrecked for me when I saw him. I have been trying to think of another book, movie, game - any form of entertainment that has introduced a character that plays such a vital role in the last five minutes of the story. He just comes out of nowhere and pretty much gives Shepard the only endings he/she is allowed to have. It just doesn't make any sense to me.