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[VivaLaWhatsername]

Mythandariel wrote...
My main beef besides the Ending and Thane's treatment is the Quest Management system. It had me *facepalm*ing throughout the game.

Thane's treatment? what do you mean by that? I mean wasn't it kind of obvious he was going to die? lol

But I agree the Quest Management (or lack there-of) was horrible. I preffered it in ME1 & 2 where you can actually track your progress.

[KLGChaos]

RatedRRachel wrote...

New article from the International Business Times about The New Yorker's post and Forbes' reaction. 

http://www.ibtimes.c...t-analysis.htm 

I find it funny that news outlets are now providing analysis of other news outlets reactions to the Retake movement. But at least we are still getting press even though not much is seemingly going to happen/be announced until PAX.  

I agree with the New Yorker that artists should stick to their guns-- if they aren't trying to sell their product to the masses and are just keeping it for themselves. But as soon as you mass produce a product and put it up for sale, especially something that focuses so much on player choice and input, it's no longer just yours. The customer becomes just as invested in the game as well. The players shape the story, they shape the characters-- they should shape the ending.

Modifié par KLGChaos, 29 mars 2012 - 03:14 .

[Nharia1]

Alright Anderson said:
"Several Sovereign class Reapers-- Including Harbinger-- have broken away from the fight and are coming here."
There we go! Solved the debate from last night on whether or not the Reaper that shoots Shepard is Harbinger. Oh and when you look at the "eyes" of the Reaper, those are Harb's "eyes". Most Reapers have red "eyes" Harbingers are a golden color.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

RatedRRachel wrote...

There were little nitpicky things that I didn't like. And they did do away with a lot of elements from the first two games (after every main mission cutscene dialogue with squad, bypassing/hacking puzzles, etc...). But honestly, if the ending was amazing, I could have dealt with them. The emotion throughout the whole game was so well done... until they went ahead and introduced a character in the last five minutes of the game.

I could probably have come across little things that annoyed me too, but on my 1st playthrough I never notice that stuff. Maybe on my 3rd or 4th but since I can't actually play it again I'm left with an awesome game with a crap ending.

[Computim]

Alamandorious wrote...

Cuuupcaaaakes....

Heh.  Glad to see things are still proceeding smoothly; been trying to rekindle the life I kinda left behind for 2 weeks staying on the forum.

I check in several times a day, though, to make sure morale is holding and such =)

Yeah I've been doing the same thing.  Just waiting for good news from PAX... or the sound of random cars being tipped over by gamers in the streets with bad news

[TamiBx]

xHezz90 wrote...

Mythandariel wrote...
My main beef besides the Ending and Thane's treatment is the Quest Management system. It had me *facepalm*ing throughout the game.

Thane's treatment? what do you mean by that? I mean wasn't it kind of obvious he was going to die? lol

But I agree the Quest Management (or lack there-of) was horrible. I preffered it in ME1 & 2 where you can actually track your progress.

Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 

[Ihatebadgames]

Checking in,glad to see we're still unlocked.Quest management was strange.I hate the TMS/EMS system of the endings.Had ALL races,even gave up the fun of killing Balak.Had 100% on all open systems TMS of 7237 (I did miss the electric upgrades for Pugatory)so half that for EMS.Unless your a multiplayer then it doesn't matter and you can get it over 8000 easier.Holding the line.

[Mythandariel]

xHezz90 wrote...

Mythandariel wrote...
My main beef besides the Ending and Thane's treatment is the Quest Management system. It had me *facepalm*ing throughout the game.

Thane's treatment? what do you mean by that? I mean wasn't it kind of obvious he was going to die? lol

But I agree the Quest Management (or lack there-of) was horrible. I preffered it in ME1 & 2 where you can actually track your progress.

There should have been an option to try to save him. Maybe something Cerberus was working on but disgarded because it only worked on Drell, like the Hanar medi-gel. Or maybe even have the doctors use the nanites in Shepard's own body to craft a cure for Thane and other Drell suffering form Keprals. It would be a War Asset because now you'd have an entire army of sexy as hell, and deadly as sin fighters on your side.

And in the entire game, it's like they wrote it for those who hadn't even heard of the words 'Mass' and 'Effect' used in the same sentance before they fired up the game.

And where did my descisions during Arrival come into play? When was the trial? Why not have the Reapers pull a surprise attack during the Trial as the verdect is being handed down so you can rub it in everyone's faces that you were right? That would have been hella-satasfying!

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Nharia1 wrote...

Alright Anderson said:
"Several Sovereign class Reapers-- Including Harbinger-- have broken away from the fight and are coming here."
There we go! Solved the debate from last night on whether or not the Reaper that shoots Shepard is Harbinger. Oh and when you look at the "eyes" of the Reaper, those are Harb's "eyes". Most Reapers have red "eyes" Harbingers are a golden color.

Ahh cool, glad we got that sorted lol. 

[Computim]

TamiBx wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Mythandariel wrote...
My main beef besides the Ending and Thane's treatment is the Quest Management system. It had me *facepalm*ing throughout the game.

Thane's treatment? what do you mean by that? I mean wasn't it kind of obvious he was going to die? lol

But I agree the Quest Management (or lack there-of) was horrible. I preffered it in ME1 & 2 where you can actually track your progress.

Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 

Yeah the journal was pretty useless.. I found half my quests by loading the map up and looking for people listed that usually weren't there haha.

I thought Thane's scene was amazing... poetic, I'm jealous that Thane got a better death than Shepard... he got his last hurrah, his sacrificial moment, and there was no kid involved either... and best of all life went on, and we saw that... his son, the conversations about it... I didn't romance him so I can't speak to that but I thought it was touching.. It was the first scene in a video game I've ever cried during... which is saying a lot being as I actually own 30-40% of the xbox 360 library.

[Darth Garrus]

Computim wrote...

Yeah the journal was pretty useless.. I found half my quests by loading the map up and looking for people listed that usually weren't there haha.

I thought Thane's scene was amazing... poetic, I'm jealous that Thane got a better death than Shepard... he got his last hurrah, his sacrificial moment, and there was no kid involved either... and best of all life went on, and we saw that... his son, the conversations about it... I didn't romance him so I can't speak to that but I thought it was touching.. It was the first scene in a video game I've ever cried during... which is saying a lot being as I actually own 30-40% of the xbox 360 library.

I thought the journal was a little buggy. And the galaxy map wasn't as useful as it was on ME2. Quests were not marked in the map, and their entries in the journal didn't say their location. Sometimes did, but not clearly. It was kind of hard to find myself.

And the quests were not updating themselves as they used to in ME2. It was easy to loose track when you only had a couple of hours a day to play. On ME2 they were perfect.

[Nilofeliu]

SSV Boston reporting in

What are the news from the front?

/Salute

[VivaLaWhatsername]

TamiBx wrote...
Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 

I thought Thane died beautifully as well, that's why I was asking. I never romanced him in the game I tranferred over so I have no clue what happens romance wise.

[CirusTheVirus666]

Signing out for the night, hold the line!

[Mythandariel]

xHezz90 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 

I thought Thane died beautifully as well, that's why I was asking. I never romanced him in the game I tranferred over so I have no clue what happens romance wise.

NOTHING happens romance wise. One kiss and a copypasta conversation from the non-romance version and that's it!

At least if you romance him have the OPTION to TRY to save him. Not saying that it would be easy. Oh no... it should be hard as balls to pull off and it should be sutibly rewarding.

[Computim]

Mythandariel wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 

I thought Thane died beautifully as well, that's why I was asking. I never romanced him in the game I tranferred over so I have no clue what happens romance wise.

NOTHING happens romance wise. One kiss and a copypasta conversation from the non-romance version and that's it!

At least if you romance him have the OPTION to TRY to save him. Not saying that it would be easy. Oh no... it should be hard as balls to pull off and it should be sutibly rewarding.

Citadel kid should totally offer you the chance to save Thane, but sacrifice the galaxy.  Make it worth while.... who woulda thought I'd actually think Citadel Kid would be a valid story piece.

[Ihatebadgames]

If Thane had been in his pirme KL would never have got away the first time.Heck(PG-13 forums)If it had been during ME2 he would have taken KL with little problem.His was a good death.Though I can see why LI are upset at not being mentioned.Holding the line.

[Mythandariel]

Computim wrote...

Mythandariel wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 

I thought Thane died beautifully as well, that's why I was asking. I never romanced him in the game I tranferred over so I have no clue what happens romance wise.

NOTHING happens romance wise. One kiss and a copypasta conversation from the non-romance version and that's it!

At least if you romance him have the OPTION to TRY to save him. Not saying that it would be easy. Oh no... it should be hard as balls to pull off and it should be sutibly rewarding.

Citadel kid should totally offer you the chance to save Thane, but sacrifice the galaxy.  Make it worth while.... who woulda thought I'd actually think Citadel Kid would be a valid story piece.

Thane would be dissapoint, though. So, that would be a no for me.

[chmarr]

http://social.biowar...224/24#10754756

[Mythandariel]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

If Thane had been in his pirme KL would never have got away the first time.Heck(PG-13 forums)If it had been during ME2 he would have taken KL with little problem.His was a good death.Though I can see why LI are upset at not being mentioned.Holding the line.

But there's a nother point. Shepard and party just stand there like idiots while Thane fistifights Robin 2.0. Why isn't there a Paragon interupt if you romanced Thane to shoot the masked douche in the face? Thane still may die but at least Shepard would have made him/herself useful instead of just standing there NOT USING THE GUN in her hands!

[Mythandariel]

chmarr wrote...

http://social.biowar...224/24#10754756

Am I getting too nit-picky?

[Nharia1]

http://wingedmoggy.d...y/6925167&qo=14

Okay I'm laughing so hard right now!

[CitizenSnips28]

xHezz90 wrote...

whoisthis98 wrote...

You know the more i think about it the more i see me3 wasn't very good. It was much too short the areas are bland and uninteresting the side quests are a joke waaaaa wheres my war bible i lost in on a planet i've never been to. The multi player is a joke. You could buy 5000000 spectre bags and never get what you want or 10 and get everything...... bad writing really nothing much interesting other than a few key moments with mordin and grunt... i mean if the ending wasn't so bad.... many people might notice that the game just wasn't great. It was ok until the end but not great like me1 or me2.

I actually disagree with you on this one. I really enjoyed ME3, it was literally only the ending that I couldn't stand. It's true that sidequests weren't too interesting but I felt the main story was really well done.
But hey that's just my opinion.

I would agree with Hezz. ME3 would probably be one of my favorite games of all time were it not for the ending. Length wise it was pretty much the same as a thorough ME2 run through, minus the dlc's of course. I actually didn't encounter many bugs at all, which is impressive given how buggy even big budget games are getting released these days. I liked alot of the moments in 3the and the emotional tone. Companions banter with each other, which they didn't do in 2. Also they change spots in the Normandy rather than sit in the same room the whole game. Some characters from the last game were glossed over but I was expecting that. Just too many diverging choices to give everyone the attention they may deserve. That's the sad reality of working with a limited production budget. Quests were hit and miss. Fetch quests were really bad, while some side quests were pretty engaging, such as the asari monastery. Overall the way I see it, if I felt the game overall was crap, why bother spending all this effort trying to get the endings changed? Its because the game was so good that the ending felt like such a letdown.

[JaylaClark]

Nharia1 wrote...

http://wingedmoggy.d...y/6925167&qo=14

Okay I'm laughing so hard right now!

Moggy is awesomeness personified.

No, Shepuppard and Puppara are awesomeness personified <3.

[Chewbacca99]

TamiBx wrote...

Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 

YES.  My wife was totally pissed off because her Shepard romanced Thane, and basically other than a little hug in the hospital, there is VERY LITTLE difference between romance and non romance conversations.  Even Miranda has a little "I love you" in her death scene.  This actually turned her off completing the game, regardless of the ending fiasco

PLUS literally no one mentions his death right afterwards.  Expected Garrus to but all he could go on about was Ash.  Imagine if you romanced him and basically he was immediately forgotten by the crew.  Not even a how are you doing / throw away line from Joker, etc

PLUS Thane doesn't even have his own journal entry

PLUS if you romanced him,  between ME2 and ME3, he's basically had a personality transplant.  The Thane in ME2 would not be languishing in a hospital - he literally hated that idea.