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#64401
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Reading husks complimenting the ending on twitter is entertaining, not as entertaining as seeing those videos that destroy the ending, but still fun

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Nharia1

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JaylaClark wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

http://wingedmoggy.d...y/6925167&qo=14

Okay I'm laughing so hard right now!


Moggy is awesomeness personified.

No, Shepuppard and Puppara are awesomeness personified <3.


Another DevArt Artist?

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yjchew wrote...

YES.  My wife was totally pissed off because her Shepard romanced Thane, and basically other than a little hug in the hospital, there is VERY LITTLE difference between romance and non romance conversations.  Even Miranda has a little "I love you" in her death scene.  This actually turned her off completing the game, regardless of the ending fiasco

PLUS literally no one mentions his death right afterwards.  Expected Garrus to but all he could go on about was Ash.  Imagine if you romanced him and basically he was immediately forgotten by the crew.  Not even a how are you doing / throw away line from Joker, etc

PLUS Thane doesn't even have his own journal entry

PLUS if you romanced him,  between ME2 and ME3, he's basically had a personality transplant.  The Thane in ME2 would not be languishing in a hospital - he literally hated that idea.


I feel like a lot of the characters, especially Shepard, had a personality transplant. Kaidan was still fine (actually, better than ever <3) but some characters were completely different or different enought that it bothered me. 

I also noticed he didn't have a jounal entry...then again, the journal/codex was so bad in ME3. They seriously need to fix that. 

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yjchew wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...:(

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 


YES.  My wife was totally pissed off because her Shepard romanced Thane, and basically other than a little hug in the hospital, there is VERY LITTLE difference between romance and non romance conversations.  Even Miranda has a little "I love you" in her death scene.  This actually turned her off completing the game, regardless of the ending fiasco

PLUS literally no one mentions his death right afterwards.  Expected Garrus to but all he could go on about was Ash.  Imagine if you romanced him and basically he was immediately forgotten by the crew.  Not even a how are you doing / throw away line from Joker, etc

PLUS Thane doesn't even have his own journal entry

PLUS if you romanced him,  between ME2 and ME3, he's basically had a personality transplant.  The Thane in ME2 would not be languishing in a hospital - he literally hated that idea.


Wow, that does sound really bad when you lay it out like. It almost seems like they cut a whole bunch of stuff out?? Seriously, how could they drop the ball on something so simple? It's just weird that Bioware wouldn't have anyone mention his death, not even in a line or two (I did notice in my non-Thanemance playthrough, it bothered me). I mean, there's that whole thing with Tali being drunk and upset about Miranda's death. Not a single mention from anyone who knew Thane? ESPECIALLY if romanced. <_<

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I will second (third? fourth?) the journal being a mess.

Just checking in to let Bioware I haven't forgotten.

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I got the drunk Tali funs even when Miranda lived -_-

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TamiBx wrote...

I feel like a lot of the characters, especially Shepard, had a personality transplant. Kaidan was still fine (actually, better than ever <3) but some characters were completely different or different enought that it bothered me. 

I also noticed he didn't have a jounal entry...then again, the journal/codex was so bad in ME3. They seriously need to fix that. 


Who do you think had a character transplant? (other than Shepard, that's an obvious one) Also, I second that about Kaidan, I feel like he was written ever better than before <3

Add me to those pissed about the journal. I kept yelling at the thing, I actually felt the need to write down quests to keep track of them. I haven't done something like that since I played FFX.

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Commander chinFuzz wrote...

I got the drunk Tali funs even when Miranda lived -_-


So did I. I was very confused :?

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Nharia1 wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

http://wingedmoggy.d...y/6925167&qo=14

Okay I'm laughing so hard right now!


Moggy is awesomeness personified.

No, Shepuppard and Puppara are awesomeness personified <3.


Another DevArt Artist?


Yeah. Wingedmoggy and her Renegon character Chloe Shepard ... and Liara... and the puppets B)
Said puppets first seen here.

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Question:  Haven't been keeping track of what's going on here on the BSN, been spending most of my time at holdtheline.com.  Has there been much discussion about the fan testimonial video?

www.youtube.com/watch

It's pretty powerful stuff.  International, too.

#64411
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Hmm yeah sounds kinda like they crapped on Thanes romance a bit. They supposedly did the same with Jacob. Kinda sad. I really liked the Tali romance though she shows up really late in the game again. -grumble-

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Computim wrote...

Mythandariel wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Haha, I think Thane died beautifully. But I'm assuming you are talking about the fact that no one canres if you romanced him and he died? No one really mentions it later...:(

The journal was just...no. Bioware needs a patch for that. 


I thought Thane died beautifully as well, that's why I was asking. I never romanced him in the game I tranferred over so I have no clue what happens romance wise.


NOTHING happens romance wise. One kiss and a copypasta conversation from the non-romance version and that's it!

At least if you romance him have the OPTION to TRY to save him. Not saying that it would be easy. Oh no... it should be hard as balls to pull off and it should be sutibly rewarding.


Citadel kid should totally offer you the chance to save Thane, but sacrifice the galaxy.  Make it worth while.... who woulda thought I'd actually think Citadel Kid would be a valid story piece. Image IPB


Yeah, the non-romance for Thane is basically exactly the same as the romance. It gets worse when you find out he actually did have a load of recorded romance-specific death scene lines that got cut from the game for no reason I can fathom. Some of them were really nice, too. Honestly I didn't expect Thane to survive the 3rd game and was going for a bittersweet doomed romance, but after the game completely screwed that up I kind of want a cure as well as improved LI relations. Compensation if you will.

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JaylaClark wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

http://wingedmoggy.d...y/6925167&qo=14

Okay I'm laughing so hard right now!


Moggy is awesomeness personified.

No, Shepuppard and Puppara are awesomeness personified <3.


Another DevArt Artist?


Yeah. Wingedmoggy and her Renegon character Chloe Shepard ... and Liara... and the puppets B)
Said puppets first seen here.


Those puppets.... are freaking hilarious! :lol::lol:

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Yeah from what I understood, the Jacob romance was the worst off of the ME2 romances. Though the way they did most of ME2 romances leaves a lot to be desired, with the exception of Garrus and Tali, again from what I understand, since I romanced no one other than Kaidan, and was very happy with his romance.

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yjchew wrote...

PLUS if you romanced him,  between ME2 and ME3, he's basically had a personality transplant.  The Thane in ME2 would not be languishing in a hospital - he literally hated that idea.


I think this is the best/worst part. If you romanced him, after he dies you get the unsent farewell letter you found in Shadow Broker sitting in your email inbox (hooray for recycled content?) And in it he literally states he has no intention of, and I quote "being confined to a bed, gasping horribly as my life beeped away to machinery I had no use for." And you get this email (which you've probably already seen) right after you've just watched him gasp himself to death on a hospital bed.

It's really horrible, and bringing the Shadow Broker letter up at that point only seems to emphasise all the characterisation issues at the worst possible time.

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CitizenSnips28 wrote...

Hmm yeah sounds kinda like they crapped on Thanes romance a bit. They supposedly did the same with Jacob. Kinda sad. I really liked the Tali romance though she shows up really late in the game again. -grumble-


I know right? It would've been nice to be able to go to the Quarians, unite back up with Tali, tell Han'Gerrel he's an idiot before he gets tons of Quarians killed, find Legion, delegate a peacful settlement for both, and THEN do the rest. Saves on the headaches for everyone.

Still loved her dialouge though, especially as she was my LI. Watching her overload Normandy's propulsion though was hilarious, if not a bit irksome. (What are you doing to my ship hun? Aiyee!)

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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yeah from what I understood, the Jacob romance was the worst off of the ME2 romances. Though the way they did most of ME2 romances leaves a lot to be desired, with the exception of Garrus and Tali, again from what I understand, since I romanced no one other than Kaidan, and was very happy with his romance.


This...
http://28.media.tumb...94e9jo1_500.gif

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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yeah from what I understood, the Jacob romance was the worst off of the ME2 romances. Though the way
they did most of ME2 romances leaves a lot to be desired, with the exception of Garrus and Tali, again from what I understand, since I romanced no one other than Kaidan, and was very happy with his romance.


I feel so bad for anyone who romanced Jacob. That was just a slap to the face. At least with Thane, you know he loves Shepard, but the game's kinda lacking. With Jacob, it's just... ouch :pinched:

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 29 mars 2012 - 04:49 .


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:P Guess Ill skip on bringing over my save that romanced Miranda. Though I suppose I'm not not terribly gung ho about playing any ME until we find out what Bioware's answer is going to be.

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 So at what point do we start making our own endings?

I started mine:
www.youtube.com/watch

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Hey, those fan testimonies are pretty nice. Pretty powerful stuff, if you ask me. Very nice initiative. If that doesn't scream "we love it so much that we are willing to do everything for better endings", I don't know what does.

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yeah from what I understood, the
Jacob romance was the worst off of the ME2 romances. Though the way
they did most of ME2 romances leaves a lot to be desired, with the
exception of Garrus and Tali, again from what I understand, since I
romanced no one other than Kaidan, and was very happy with his
romance.


I feel so bad for anyone who romanced Jacob. That was just a slap to the face. At least with Thane, you know he loves Shepard, but the game's kinda lacking. With Jacob, it's just... ouch :pinched:


What all happens? Does he like ditch Shepard for the Cerberus defector chick who's name I'm drawing a blank on? Even if you romanced him? Ouch if so.

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CitizenSnips28 wrote...

Little Miss Angel wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yeah from what I understood, the
Jacob romance was the worst off of the ME2 romances. Though the way
they did most of ME2 romances leaves a lot to be desired, with the
exception of Garrus and Tali, again from what I understand, since I
romanced no one other than Kaidan, and was very happy with his
romance.


I feel so bad for anyone who romanced Jacob. That was just a slap to the face. At least with Thane, you know he loves Shepard, but the game's kinda lacking. With Jacob, it's just... ouch :pinched:

 

What all happens? Does he like ditch Shepard for the Cerberus defector chick who's name I'm drawing a blank on? Even if you romanced him? Ouch if so.

It gets worse, he also knocks her up.

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yeah from what I understood, the
Jacob romance was the worst off of the ME2 romances. Though the way
they did most of ME2 romances leaves a lot to be desired, with the
exception of Garrus and Tali, again from what I understand, since I
romanced no one other than Kaidan, and was very happy with his
romance.


I feel so bad for anyone who romanced Jacob.
That was just a slap to the face. At least with Thane, you know he loves
Shepard, but the game's kinda lacking. With Jacob, it's just... ouch [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]


Yeah, Jacob's was just brutal. Thane's treatment was unexpectedly bad, but at least everybody had the possibility of his death made plain to them in ME2 so that they had some kind of warning. Jacob was a good, loyal guy in ME2, and then suddenly he's a (fairly) unapologetic cheater? That's a real disservice to both those who were unfortunate enough to romance him and to the integrity of this character.