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Zulmoka531 wrote...
Rob_K1 wrote...
Where was that importing thing actually btw and was it official? Xoi, if the leaks are to be believed, imported I think?
And as always, I'm not saying whether the leaks are true or not. I'm just commiting to either idea and the leaks don't bother me.
Eh, I don't know if I'd call it "Official" but:
http://social.biowar...3/index/9293402
It was stickied actually, in favor of the Twitter thread for a while.
Tazzmission wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?
to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers
Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.
heres the ultimate 6 million doallar question
when has mass effect ever been labeled just souly a rpg? last i checked its a action rpg
I never labeled it as such. It has always been an action RPG and people who think otherwise are just hoping for a full on RPG.
well the way your posting makes it sound otherwise. i want to make that clear just so you know
Modifié par mxfox408, 02 mars 2012 - 01:12 .
Tazzmission wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?
to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers
Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.
heres the ultimate 6 million doallar question
when has mass effect ever been labeled just souly a rpg? last i checked its a action rpg
If people are satisfied with that then Bioware will continue to apply the same strategy.
Switish wrote...
Zulmoka531 wrote...
Let's not forget that whole thing about not importing your Shepard on the first play through that was on the General discussion a while back. I'm sure that sent up some warning flags.
What what what ?! how come
Edit. Actually no dont tell me....
mxfox408 wrote...
I'm going to laugh if all these leaked scripts turn out to be a troll. Seriously you people make decisions of how the game is based on leaked scripts? Come on bioay have changed a few thing but we will see. Unless anyone have the video footage of the endings ill consider this another troll thread.
Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 01:13 .
Then that is exactly what BW is doing now - catering to the doom and gloom crowd. They got what they want the rest of us did not. That's as plain and simple as it can possibly be.Tazzmission wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Maialeth wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
GBGriffin wrote...
DXLelouch15 wrote...
if these endings are the only ending heads will probably roll
I mentioned it earlier, but if everything is at it stands and plays out as predicted, it will truly be an excellent case study in what NOT to do to a franchise / fanbase, as well as other fascinating elements of the human mind (rationalization, denial, etc). People will hopefully look back and learn from this in future development projects.
I've accepted what will happen as what will happen; no amount of complaining I do will get them to put in the ending I wanted because, in the end, despite my choices, it's still their story and universe.
What happens next, though, from sales to PR backlash..that will be the truly "entertaining" and informative stuff to watch.
well all i can say is as a mass effect fan and i truely do mean this that maybe depending how people react to the game bioware shouldnt listen to its fans then.
and i say this because no matter what the rest of the fanbase demands theyare never happy.
and no im not trying to cause a issue im just stating the oviouse because bioware dosent have to listen to us at all and yet they do wich is nice and shouldnt be taken advantage of.
from all the leaks i saw im going to enjoy the game regardless and remain a mass effect fan im not mad at the devs im furiouse at the fans
There's a big difference between "Someone's always going to be unhappy, you can't please everyone." And "Disappointing 77% of your fans (the numbers last time I checked the admittedly unscientific poll)"
I'll Just reject the endings and makup my own. As far as I'm concerned, if what we know of are the only endings.. The bioware endings no longer exist for me. Will I buy ME3, yes.. I will. Will I buy anything else that may or may not come out in the Mass Effect Universe.. Possibly.. long after it comes out at the used game store. Will I buy anything else Bioware/EA after this. I'll avoid it like the plague until.. again well after release at a used game store for 70% off.
Right, let's assume that everyone is based on the idea of a plurality.
Problem is, the endings are pleasing the minority, not the plurality/majority.
So, Bioware isn't pleasing the plurality (or majority in this case), while they should at the very least be trying to please a majority.
Good business sense.
so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?
to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?
to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers
Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.
And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.
Pretty sure you don't know much about psychology or business and your condescending attitude is entirely unjustified.
thank you. hell im not even a buisness major and its sad that i know more than he does
Tell me how I'm wrong.
Unit-Alpha wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?
to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers
Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.
And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.
Pretty sure you don't know much about psychology or business and your condescending attitude is entirely unjustified.
Tell me how I'm wrong, then?
Neither is yours.
Modifié par blueruin, 02 mars 2012 - 01:14 .
mxfox408 wrote...
I'm going to laugh if all these leaked scripts turn out to be a troll. Seriously you people make decisions of how the game is based on leaked scripts? Come on bioware have changed a few thing but we will see. Unless anyone have the video footage of the endings ill consider this another troll thread.
albertalad wrote...
Then that is exactly what BW is doing now - catering to the doom and gloom crowd. They got what they want the rest of us did not. That's as plain and simple as it can possibly be.Tazzmission wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Maialeth wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
GBGriffin wrote...
DXLelouch15 wrote...
if these endings are the only ending heads will probably roll
I mentioned it earlier, but if everything is at it stands and plays out as predicted, it will truly be an excellent case study in what NOT to do to a franchise / fanbase, as well as other fascinating elements of the human mind (rationalization, denial, etc). People will hopefully look back and learn from this in future development projects.
I've accepted what will happen as what will happen; no amount of complaining I do will get them to put in the ending I wanted because, in the end, despite my choices, it's still their story and universe.
What happens next, though, from sales to PR backlash..that will be the truly "entertaining" and informative stuff to watch.
well all i can say is as a mass effect fan and i truely do mean this that maybe depending how people react to the game bioware shouldnt listen to its fans then.
and i say this because no matter what the rest of the fanbase demands theyare never happy.
and no im not trying to cause a issue im just stating the oviouse because bioware dosent have to listen to us at all and yet they do wich is nice and shouldnt be taken advantage of.
from all the leaks i saw im going to enjoy the game regardless and remain a mass effect fan im not mad at the devs im furiouse at the fans
There's a big difference between "Someone's always going to be unhappy, you can't please everyone." And "Disappointing 77% of your fans (the numbers last time I checked the admittedly unscientific poll)"
I'll Just reject the endings and makup my own. As far as I'm concerned, if what we know of are the only endings.. The bioware endings no longer exist for me. Will I buy ME3, yes.. I will. Will I buy anything else that may or may not come out in the Mass Effect Universe.. Possibly.. long after it comes out at the used game store. Will I buy anything else Bioware/EA after this. I'll avoid it like the plague until.. again well after release at a used game store for 70% off.
Right, let's assume that everyone is based on the idea of a plurality.
Problem is, the endings are pleasing the minority, not the plurality/majority.
So, Bioware isn't pleasing the plurality (or majority in this case), while they should at the very least be trying to please a majority.
Good business sense.
so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?
to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers
Tazzmission wrote...
you said a singularity of gamers should always be number 1 when in fact no it shouldnt.
im no buisness guy myself but even i know reality.
if any true rpger believe rpg is the only thing mass effect needs then they really have no idea on how a buisness works
do you really think any publisher will say yea man go ahead cater to singular percentage of gamers we can live without the money coming from the shooter genre , the action genre.
hell lets be realistic here some people on this board are just shooter fans ( i personaly am not) hell im not even a true rpf fan
so should someone like me who likes what he plays be nixed because you think your buisness ethic just trumps everyone else?
Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 01:17 .
Zulmoka531 wrote...
Switish wrote...
Zulmoka531 wrote...
Let's not forget that whole thing about not importing your Shepard on the first play through that was on the General discussion a while back. I'm sure that sent up some warning flags.
What what what ?! how come
Edit. Actually no dont tell me....
Since the thread moves so fast. It was more of an idea pitched than an official thing. But given what's going on right now I wouldn't call it that much of a stretch:
http://social.biowar...3/index/9293402
Splinter Cell 108 wrote...
Capeo wrote...
You know what does confirm things? The people who have been playing the game for days, and in the case of Tank on SA months. Everything they said has been shown to be true by the video leaks. Things that were never in the script. So.... either they are the luckiest liars on the planet or, the obvious conclusion, they are right.
I'm not saying that what people are saying is wrong, maybe I am in denial and don't want to see the truth but something just seems off. Is BioWare really going to screw everyone and the final game in the Mass Effect series? Are they willing to add another black eye to their reputation? That could be the situation especially since it happened with DA2. However there were many instances were things seemed bad and they weren't. Some examples were the idea of non-permanent squadmates and dialogue being shortened. I'm buying the game regardless because I don't find the endings to be that bad but either way I would still want my good ending. I wasn't expecting the super happy ending where everyone lives happily ever after and I didn't want that either but I don't want something as stupid as what those endings imply.
There is one thing however that I have found no answer to. I've heard a rumor of some "Well Connected" achievement supposedly being tied to an ending in whicn there's some sort of plan made by the Illusive Man to preserve the galaxy's technology, so far the only thing I know is that the description says "send a warning to the galaxy". I'm not discarding the possibility that this is all hogwash and that it has nothing to do with anything related to endings but, I have found no answers though.
The one thing that bothers me though and its the same thing that has bothered me ever since these rumors have been going on is that BioWare says nothing, they just give us the same PR speak all the times. Hasn't this gone far enough, spoilers or not they should do something about it instead of keeping quiet with everything. Everytime something like this comes up BSN becomes a warzone and BioWare just keeps its mouth shut. I don't know what's real or not with the endings but I will wait until the game comes out before I believe anything.
blueruin wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
so your saying bioware should just please the ones who demand a true rpg ending right? everyone is just left in the dark with there opinions?
to me that sounds nothing like biuisness but more selfishness if you ask me because it caters to one and one only spefic group of gamers
Um... if a subgroup makes up a plurality of your gaming population, they should be priority #1. This is Business 101.
And Bioware is motivated by business only, given how they have acted.
Pretty sure you don't know much about psychology or business and your condescending attitude is entirely unjustified.
Tell me how I'm wrong, then?
Neither is yours.
Like any corporation, EA/Bioware is not interested in catering to any one subgroup (for example out of 'loyalty' to the RPG genre). That should be pretty obvious by now with the gameplay and design decisions they make. They're interesting in growth. Selling more, finding ways to be appealing to more people. What you and a lot of other people on the BSN prioritize is not what the average gamer picking up ME3 cares about. The vast majority of the many millions who buy their games aren't obsessed with their video game waifus and demand fanservice with each subsequent game.
Modifié par Tazzmission, 02 mars 2012 - 01:18 .
Tazzmission wrote...
albertalad wrote...
Then that is exactly what BW is doing now - catering to the doom and gloom crowd. They got what they want the rest of us did not. That's as plain and simple as it can possibly be.
no there not. you want selfishnes look at activision and cod
yearly release with same dlc and no improvments and they charge a nasty price for it
bioware has done nothing like that and you know it
Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 01:20 .
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