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Darth Garrus

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Be back later.

Hold the line!

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tjc2

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I would pay $10 for a what went wrong DLC. Basically a mini documentary of how the ending became so bad.

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chmarr

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B33ker wrote...

[this has the potential to go nuclear.


how about exploding mass relay type of explosion.

if the s h i t does hit the fan i dont knw what i'd say or do.

but ~touch wood~ heres hoping something goes right our way for a change and not some "give them enough to calm them down" type of garbage

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Cybermortis

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Darth Suetam wrote...

Pretty much it. And Mr. Priestly's twitts are already being questioned. I don't think there's nothing wrong with those, but again, with a little more consideration before posting stuff, they could avoid a lot of trouble. If I could say something, I would tell the team to be extra carefull. And to lay low. And to think a lot before posting anything. The tension is high at the moment. They are not at their best with their "fans" (customers). But, hey, it's their way. Let's just hope it doesn't do more damage.


I think they will only be a problem if A; They say something that is outright inflamatory...and I should think they are smart enough not to do that. Or B; We ASSUME what they are saying is meant to be inflamatory.

As I just said, I think until PAX we should just take what they say at face value or as humour.

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Cybermortis wrote...

Computim wrote...

chmarr wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

twitter.com/#!/BioEvilChris/status/185498804928258048

Is he trying to be a jerk? I can't tell with this man...



he's depressed because they donated all the cakes to a kids charity,
he wanted to eat them so much and he couldent even eat one


so yeah he's on a downer i bet he's looking at his coffee mug and thinking "wish i had a cupcake to eat with my coffee"


Thanks for pointing this out... you're right.. I really hope he's just upset he didn't get cupcakes.. I'd be upset! hahaha


Read what he said again, this time very carefully...He said he didn't eat 400 cupcakes...but...didn't we send them 402 cupcakes...<_<


who said he ate any lol

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I seriously love the motivational thread...:devil:

http://i.imgur.com/98wdx.jpg

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toffeetrooper wrote...

hi all back from work, time for a stint on the line.

i had a look at the thread earlier and it was pointed out that the system where the cerb base is located is called "pax"(that is also the place were the normandy is dumped when you do a post-continue). did this line of thought go anywere?


It went to the Speculation Nebula, did a quick run between the Twin Suns of Doubt and Fury, and ran in circles around the Questionable Asteroid. Then, when it was finally leaving the Speculation Nebula for the Reluctant Acceptance Cluster it was hit by a Crucible shot and crash-landed on the Planet of Unknowable Unknowns.

Modifié par LethesDeep, 29 mars 2012 - 11:44 .


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chmarr

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wait till PAX and see if they do a Q and A...............b,c

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Alright, so anything else recent besides the cupcakes getting donated to charity?

Also, April is fast approaching, and we were told that is when we would hear more on this thing that the team is working on about the ending, so stay strong people!

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Reply to tjc2 :
Yeap ...should be done.
I pwill pay as well.
Want to se personcresponsible for this mess.

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Cybermortis wrote...

Read what he said again, this time very carefully...He said he didn't eat 400 cupcakes...but...didn't we send them 402 cupcakes...<_<


Actually, they've been referring to it as "400 cupcakes" rather than 402...maybe they didn't count them all? :huh:


...or maybe they ate two...

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LethesDeep wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

hi all back from work, time for a stint on the line.

i had a look at the thread earlier and it was pointed out that the system where the cerb base is located is called "pax"(that is also the place were the normandy is dumped when you do a post-continue). did this line of thought go anywere?


It went to the Speculation Nebula, did a quick run between the Twin Suns of Doubt and Fury, and ran in circles around the Indignation Asteroid. Then, when it was finally leaving the Speculation Nebula for the Reluctant Acceptance Cluster it was hit by a Crucible shot and crash-landed on the Planet of Unknowable Unknowns.


i see it went far then

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toffeetrooper wrote...

hi all back from work, time for a stint on the line.

i had a look at the thread earlier and it was pointed out that the system where the cerb base is located is called "pax"(that is also the place were the normandy is dumped when you do a post-continue). did this line of thought go anywere?


Hmmm. I missed this one. I suspect it is not a coincidence. Pax, of course, also means "peace" in Latin.

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tjc2 wrote...

I would pay $10 for a what went wrong DLC. Basically a mini documentary of how the ending became so bad.

it would basically start like "we had all these really great ideas! Unfortunately, they were tossed out by the janitors who were cleaning, we then had to use an idea that someone had written on a napkin when they were at the bar, we figured what could go wrong" then the DLC starts lol :P

Modifié par Major Swift, 29 mars 2012 - 11:46 .


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Cybermortis wrote...

For three weeks we've been picking apart every word they have and have not said - and quite probably reading far more (or less) into those words than was intended.

Regardless of what they may or may not have been working on, or planned or intending to do from the start. The simple fact is that they have unquestionably been under a considerable amount of pressure and stress...quite probably for at least the last two months.
The statement they gave about the cakes does not read to me as if it was written by someone in the PR department. It reads to me as if it was written by someone who is simply tired, and wasn't quite able to articulate what they really wanted to say. I've been there and done that before...although I usually have the option of going back and changing or deleting those words the next day.

Also bare something VERY important in mind here; We, as a group, are being listed as a legitimate 'power' in the gaming industry in several quarters. This is one of the reasons why Childs Play made the request that we stop the chip in account, and it is why Bioware probably couldn't accept the cupcakes for fear it would be seen as a 'bribe' - we do after all have an agenda.
We might not see things in this light, but others (including the media) certainly would.

I think that we should declare a truce, at least until we get news from PAX, and take comments made by Bioware staff at face value until then. 


I don't get why they couldn't have said "Haha thanks for the cupcakes!  We couldn't eat them all so we donated a bunch of them to charity.  Thanks again for your feedback, we hope to have exciting news at PAX for you"... instead they had to make a public stand against a vocal group of their customers.  It'd be like me saying "Thanks for your feedback customer.  I really appreciated the mints you sent me with it, I've given the mints to charity though because you weren't saying anything nice about what we'd done".

They want a cease-fire/truce as you put it, but they keep pushing buttons and it's infuriating from a customer relations perspective.  I don't get that they're trying to hold out an olive branch, I get that they're having a stubborn artist tantrum even though, they admitted in their own documentary, they were rushed for time... that's a business decision, not an artistic one.  We're now responding to the BUSINESS decision and asking they finish their product, not the artistic one... or at least I'm not anyway.  The most business like, professional response I've seen so far was from the Co-Founder last week and Jessica earlier that week.

This, to me, is about not accepting less than what was advertised and what was promised for quality by reputation, nothing to do with artistic integrity... if they wanted to fight for that they should have done it before they released an unfinished piece of art to the world.

I still have my nuclear option if they don't address the concerns we've made at PAX.  It would definitely get EA's attention because it involves their largest customer.  I'm not going to discuss it until I'm sure that Bioware's decided to disregard its customer base entirely though rather then just poorly worded releases and emotionally dictated decisions.

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Iucounou wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

hi all back from work, time for a stint on the line.

i had a look at the thread earlier and it was pointed out that the system where the cerb base is located is called "pax"(that is also the place were the normandy is dumped when you do a post-continue). did this line of thought go anywere?


Hmmm. I missed this one. I suspect it is not a coincidence. Pax, of course, also means "peace" in Latin.


a possible easter egg then or just a coincidence, ah well something else to mull over wile we wait.

edit: note to self drink more coffee and get words right.

Modifié par toffeetrooper, 29 mars 2012 - 11:48 .


#65117
TamiBx

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 Did you guys see this? (kind of relevant to the ending dlc and its funding, etc)

http://social.biowar...x/10773293&lf=8

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Major Swift wrote...

Computim wrote...

chmarr wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

twitter.com/#!/BioEvilChris/status/185498804928258048

Is he trying to be a jerk? I can't tell with this man...



he's depressed because they donated all the cakes to a kids charity,
he wanted to eat them so much and he couldent even eat one


so yeah he's on a downer i bet he's looking at his coffee mug and thinking "wish i had a cupcake to eat with my coffee"


Thanks for pointing this out... you're right.. I really hope he's just upset he didn't get cupcakes.. I'd be upset! hahaha

lol i was just imagining that whole scene, the cupcakes arrived and he was probably the guy going, "can't we keep just one?" everyone else, " no! now stop touching the cupcakes! they're going to a youth group!"


There was 402 cupcakes......He said he didn't eat 400 - news keeps saying 400 were donated.....

What happened to the 2 cupcakes??

Tis a mystery :D

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TamiBx wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Read what he said again, this time very carefully...He said he didn't eat 400 cupcakes...but...didn't we send them 402 cupcakes...<_<


Actually, they've been referring to it as "400 cupcakes" rather than 402...maybe they didn't count them all? :huh:


...or maybe they ate two...


LOL I said the same thing :D  I think maybe Casey and the good Doctor snuck 2 out ;)  hey I wouldn't blame them - they looks damn good :D


HOLD THE LINE

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Cybermortis wrote...
Read what he said again, this time very carefully...He said he didn't eat 400 cupcakes...but...didn't we send them 402 cupcakes...<_<

Semi-random question. Does anyone know where we came up with the number 402 seems a little bizarre. I can't stop thinking that I'm missing some context there.

PS if I ever work for a company that gets hundreds of cupcakes and I don't even get one I think that I would start breaking stuff. I can stay civil in the midst of what's going on with this ending but that would cross a serious food depriving line.

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TamiBx wrote...

I seriously love the motivational thread...:devil:

http://i.imgur.com/98wdx.jpg


so they couldnt handle the 3 option BS they shoved down our throat's huh? lol nice move on their part least they could chose a 4TH option

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Cybermortis wrote...

For three weeks we've been picking apart every word they have and have not said - and quite probably reading far more (or less) into those words than was intended.

Regardless of what they may or may not have been working on, or planned or intending to do from the start. The simple fact is that they have unquestionably been under a considerable amount of pressure and stress...quite probably for at least the last two months.
The statement they gave about the cakes does not read to me as if it was written by someone in the PR department. It reads to me as if it was written by someone who is simply tired, and wasn't quite able to articulate what they really wanted to say. I've been there and done that before...although I usually have the option of going back and changing or deleting those words the next day.

Also bare something VERY important in mind here; We, as a group, are being listed as a legitimate 'power' in the gaming industry in several quarters. This is one of the reasons why Childs Play made the request that we stop the chip in account, and it is why Bioware probably couldn't accept the cupcakes for fear it would be seen as a 'bribe' - we do after all have an agenda.
We might not see things in this light, but others (including the media) certainly would.

I think that we should declare a truce, at least until we get news from PAX, and take comments made by Bioware staff at face value until then. 


That's a very good point. Say they ate the cupcakes and then we find out that they indeed are going to change the ending based on our feedback...I can see the headlines now "Bioware sacrifices artistic integrity for cupcakes". They are really in a situation where they are damned if they do-damned if they don't. At least they have the letter and notes that came with and are (hopefully) lulling them over. It's a win-win. We get our message across, BW comes out looking good (even though I'm sure some employees would have wanted a cupcake), and some kids get to have a special treat. ^_^

Back to holding the line after a few days off. I went in to rage mode for a minute there and decided to slowly back away from the forums for a break!

Modifié par Debi-Tage, 29 mars 2012 - 11:54 .


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Haven't made contact in a couple days... they've been rough... lost a lot of good men... still holding the line.

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Life got exciting - back holding the line

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https://twitter.com/#!/feral_pigeon

he wanted a cupcake but got nothing