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tjc2 wrote...

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If we do get what we want... should we send them more cupcakes that they can eat as a thank you?

Was thinking the same thing X) .. or maybe other yummy goodies instead? hmm, chocolate? cookies? Pies? or maybe little teddy bears wearing ''I luv u" and "thank u" T-shirts..?
.. *getting carried away*.. better I just stop now >.<


We need to send something that could not be given to charity, but would be insensitive to disregard, Ideas?:wizard:


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Debi-Tage wrote...

tjc2 wrote...
We need to send something that could not be given to charity, but would be insensitive to disregard, Ideas?:wizard:


handwritten love letters with glitter glued to them and bottles of alcohol?? :P


Oh man, they can't donate to kids...that would look bad...:pinched:

For the sole purpose of me buying one as well (for myself), can we send them character pillows? I want a Garrus one...

EDIT: typo

Modifié par TamiBx, 30 mars 2012 - 12:45 .


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Anything happen in the last 10 hours? (I will go back and check the pages in a minute but might be easier if I find out from you guys lol)

Holding the line! :)

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xHezz90 wrote...

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Anything happen in the last 10 hours? (I will go back and check the pages in a minute but might be easier if I find out from you guys lol)

Holding the line! :)


cupcakes happened...lolz

http://www.gamezone....akes-to-charity

There's also a thread about it

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xHezz90 wrote...

SSV Auckland Reporting In

Anything happen in the last 10 hours? (I will go back and check the pages in a minute but might be easier if I find out from you guys lol)

Holding the line! :)

not sure if anything really major happened except for them giving the cupcakes to a youth group

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Debi-Tage wrote...

cupcakes happened...lolz

http://www.gamezone....akes-to-charity

There's also a thread about it


Ha! brilliant, that was nice of them to donate them to a youth centre but does anyone else think this was a ploy to try and get better press than Retake so they don't seem like the bad guys? lol

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tjc2 wrote...

d1ta wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

If we do get what we want... should we send them more cupcakes that they can eat as a thank you?

Was thinking the same thing X) .. or maybe other yummy goodies instead? hmm, chocolate? cookies? Pies? or maybe little teddy bears wearing ''I luv u" and "thank u" T-shirts..?
.. *getting carried away*.. better I just stop now >.<


We need to send something that could not be given to charity, but would be insensitive to disregard, Ideas?:wizard:


Maybe badges (what is it Americans call them? Pins?) and/or some stickers or posters?. Nothing that could be seen as gloating, maybe just Marauder Shields or similar fan-artwork (or both, depending on how expensive/difficult it would be) on them without any text. A simple letter on behalf of the fans thanking them for listening with the delivery would be all that was needed.

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xHezz90 wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

cupcakes happened...lolz

http://www.gamezone....akes-to-charity

There's also a thread about it


Ha! brilliant, that was nice of them to donate them to a youth centre but does anyone else think this was a ploy to try and get better press than Retake so they don't seem like the bad guys? lol


I got it was more a way to stick it to the fans/customers who didn't like the endings personally... I was laughing about the cupcakes at work, thought it was a nice peace offering, subtle disagreement...but cupcakes!

Instead they turned it into some sort of moral stand against criticism and gave them away... angered me... posted about it earlier... giving up on Bioware again Image IPB

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Popping in - still holding the line, but I gotta admit, I'm needing a pick-me up a this point.

It's almost a month and I'm still not feeling a desire to play ANY video games. That itself, really pisses me off. My favorite avenue of fun has been taken away. I'm starting to feel a bit of hatred about how tainted I'm become to all games. This is not the path I want to follow.

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xHezz90 wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

cupcakes happened...lolz

http://www.gamezone....akes-to-charity

There's also a thread about it


Ha! brilliant, that was nice of them to donate them to a youth centre but does anyone else think this was a ploy to try and get better press than Retake so they don't seem like the bad guys? lol


No.

Lets take the donation as having been made in the exact same spirit we donated to childs play, and give Bioware a break for a while.

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@Computim and @Stephanid98: I was there a few days ago. Its easy right now to feel worn down and tired of all of this. I'd suggest doing something else to relax you until we hear more (as we were promised). I have not looked at games either for two weeks and ME is basically ruined for me at this point and it was my favorite franchise ever. The waiting is the hard part - we can't break now!
Hold the Line!

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Cybermortis wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

cupcakes happened...lolz

http://www.gamezone....akes-to-charity

There's also a thread about it


Ha! brilliant, that was nice of them to donate them to a youth centre but does anyone else think this was a ploy to try and get better press than Retake so they don't seem like the bad guys? lol


No.

Lets take the donation as having been made in the exact same spirit we donated to childs play, and give Bioware a break for a while.


*rawrs and rips apart a cupcake* THIS IS ME GIVING THEM A BREAK Image IPB

I'm already being patient by not going out and boycotting everything associated with Bioware/EA as far as I'm concerned.  I've not told anyone not to buy EA/Bioware in almost a week.  Despite this I still get the sense that they're being insular and avoiding things they don't want to hear and excusing that with elitist columnists' articles rather then acting like a proper business (as their co-founder and Community Manager did a week ago).  I think it was the statement about refusing to accept the cupcakes because they weren't in the spirit of celebration that upset me...

If they won't accept cupcakes because they're not praising them and giving them 9.5/10s how are we supposed to trust that they're taking our feedback and not just tossing it in the trash?

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DaftArbiter wrote...

Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.


I agree. I agree that the game should provoke deep and meaningful emotions that include the possibility that Sheppard and other characters would die.:wizard: Heck I wrote many fan-fics detailing just that. But there should also be options to have a satisfying victory where the heroes save the day and live to tell about it. Hint Hint.  ;)

(Shameless self promotion is harder than it looks :bandit:)

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Sooo... posted here yet?

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And if veins start popping out of your heads people its time for a break - just ah, speaking from personal experience here! ;p

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Cybermortis wrote...

No.

Lets take the donation as having been made in the exact same spirit we donated to childs play, and give Bioware a break for a while.


It's just the way he says this part:

"we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team"

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xHezz90 wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

No.

Lets take the donation as having been made in the exact same spirit we donated to childs play, and give Bioware a break for a while.


It's just the way he says this part:

"we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team"

im so conflicted right now because i agree with both of you lol

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Major Swift wrote...
im so conflicted right now because i agree with both of you lol


Ha! think how I must feel then, I agree with both of us too :P

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xHezz90 wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

No.

Lets take the donation as having been made in the exact same spirit we donated to childs play, and give Bioware a break for a while.


It's just the way he says this part:

"we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team"


haha...I admit - they were snarky, but in a fun way. But think of it...your team is ashamed (maybe??) of all the flak they are getting about this and then are you seriously going to pass around cupcakes that make a jab at the big, angry elephant in the room? It would be different if they didnt come from the Retake movement, didn't have "feedback" notes attached to them (no matter how funny and playful), and instead had pics of the characters on them or something...wonder if they still would have donated them then??

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Debi-Tage wrote...

And if veins start popping out of your heads people its time for a break - just ah, speaking from personal experience here! ;p


Rofl.  I'm not like rage angry... I'm just disappointed that my hero of a company has turned out to be just as lousy at seeing their own faults as the rest of us.  If I were angry at this point I'd probably have posted a giant, way too thought out, strategy on how to get EA to, not only take notice, but apologize for Bioware's single-handedly being the downfall of humanity, causing World War 3, assassinating JFK and eating babies....everyone knows Bioware didn't assassinate JFK though Image IPB

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xHezz90 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...
im so conflicted right now because i agree with both of you lol


Ha! think how I must feel then, I agree with both of us too :P


If it helps anyone, read this

http://social.biowar...x/10635792&lf=8

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Cybermortis wrote...

LethesDeep wrote...

If those headlines came up they'd be laughably wrong for two reasons: 1) They said they were going to modify the endings (somehow) before the cupcakes and 2) BioWare has no "artistic integrity" in the sense they are using it.


1; Bioware did not state that they were going to change the ending. They used the words 'Clarrify' and 'Explain', but did not specifically say that this would be done via DLC or a patch. The media, with the very notable exception of Forbes who appear to be one of few media outlets capable of critical thought who've weighed in on the issue, did report the statement as being 'Mass Effect 3 to get a new ending'. However the comments about additional content mentioned in the statement in question are much the same as earlier comments that were made about other DLC content Bioware was already working on...such as the MP DLC that is expected.

The wording was rather ambigous, and probably deliberatly so, and doesn't commit Bioware to doing anything but a power point presentaion at PAX to explain what the endings in the game mean...Not that they would get away with that methinks....

2; I don't recall Bioware itself ever using the 'art' argument. The claims about 'artistic integrity' have come from 'journalists', using the word in its loosest possible sense, who really need to see a doctor as they seem to have their vocal cords stuck up their backsides. The argument for 'art' being unchangeable has been demolished by rather a lot of smart people, especially in regards video games.


No need to be so confrontational.

As for point 1: How else are they going to "clarify" or "explain" the endings unless they release something that changes the endings? A lot of gamers don't expect to have to play a game - or multiple games - across different platforms to understand the ending to one of those games. So, BioWare has to add the "clarification and explanation" to ME3, however they can't explain the end at the start or middle, so they'd add whatever they are working on to the end. That's what I see their statement meaning.

Point 2: blog post from Dr. Muzyka I referenced is here Second paragrapgh, last sentence. And I quote: "The team and I have been thinking hard
about how to best address the comments on ME3’s endings from players,
while still maintaining the artistic integrity of the game."

Modifié par LethesDeep, 30 mars 2012 - 01:13 .


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SSV Sechelt, been cleaning the last few days and hunting an nest of pyjacks that got on my ship. Back on the line!

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Debi-Tage wrote...

haha...I admit - they were snarky, but in a fun way. But think of it...your team is ashamed (maybe??) of all the flak they are getting about this and then are you seriously going to pass around cupcakes that make a jab at the big, angry elephant in the room? It would be different if they didnt come from the Retake movement, didn't have "feedback" notes attached to them (no matter how funny and playful), and instead had pics of the characters on them or something...wonder if they still would have donated them then??


Yeah I guess you're right, like I said though it was still nice of them to donate them to a youth centre.

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the cupcake delivery re-energized me - still holding!!!