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Atrocity wrote...

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Maybe Bioware has something against us Garrus/Shep fans...although given the endings, I think they secretly hate us all *sighs* :crying:

Garrus is actually a big, big, big part of why I felt so bad after the ending. Since he was so cheery and wonderful during all of the games, especially the third one... 'If this all ends up both of us dying in an explosion which destroys the Reapers... remember, I took the killshot' and the last part before the final battle, how he forbids me from dying even if it means he's insubordinating, well, all of that really did set up a hopefull atmosphere (together with curing the genophage and peace with Quarians and Geth ofc).

And then Bioware reached inside me and crushed my heart, along with couple other inner organs, robbing me of closure, happiness and human turian babies.

See they did the same with Kaidan, one of the last things he says to you is "I can't lose you again." and then haha says Bioware, no way you're coming back from this one! Kaidan can go through all of the trauma of losing Shepard all over again!

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Oh dear, I leave for a couple hours and you guys go mad!


Everyone's just frustrated and tempers are running high, come PAX i'm sure everyone will be galvanised back into a singular entity

Hold the Line

Not like Synthesis I hope, I mean I like you all but.......

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So do we know if they're going to be doing live streaming from PAX? Or are we going to have to hear about it in the news? I'm hoping there will be a Live Stream from the floor, but you can't get everything...

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@nitefyre410, I know exactly how you feel about that, that's pretty much what has me writing my rewrite of the ending, and I still tear up thinking of that line, knowing that 15-20 minutes from then everything is just going to go to hell no matter what I've done

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Out of interest, and on topic, do I remember someone yesterday saying that Bioware will be having a Q&A session at PAX? How do they usually do the Q&A stuff there?


Maybe they know. :bandit:

 
Oh they  know, the question is are they perpared... :devil:


Since they are our elite-groundforce, I think they are.


The reason I asked is that it seems unlikely that BW would have a Q&A session unless they are either very confident what they have to say is going to be well received OR that they can control the questions being asked. Either is possible...but eliminating any questions about the ending, or cherry-picking only those questions they can brush off/answer without having to commit to anything would be rather moronic. If Bioware has learnt anything over the last three weeks, it (hopefully) would be that such a tactic is likely to be noticed and commented on in a matter of minutes...and not just by their customers. And they certainly are not in a position where they could ignore the ending issue. 

I also recall that Bioware's time on stage was reduced to an hour (although this may not have been Bioware's decision). So assume maybe 40-50 minutes for the 'sales pitch' and 10-20 minutes for questions at the end?

*Muses*

You know, that doesn't seem enough time for them to discuss both the ending issue and all the upcoming DLC they have planned in any detail...and as I noted they can't ignore the ending issue and I doubt they could brush it off. They do read the boards, and will be aware that for a lot of people PAX is going to be the crunch point and if they try to downplay a new ending or stall for time it will cost them a LOT of customers. Likewise concentrating on other DLC would be rather daft if a large number of customers are on the brink of trading their games in and leaving Bioware for good.
It also seems likely that they would be aware that 'clarrifying' the ending wouldn't be good enough. What is wanted and needed is an entirely new ending.

I'm not sure what to make of this. I'd like to think that it is a sign that they are going to announce an ending DLC. But it could also be a sign that they intend to brush the matter off as quickly as possible and not give anyone enough time to question them about it.

Humm.

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EA Makes The Semi-Finals For Worst Company In America
http://consumerist.c...ifinalists.html

Didn't even know about this until yesterday. EA beat Comcast? Wow. I really wonder if it has anything to do with ME3 ending. I don't play EA games much, but the few I have sure haven't made me dislike them more them Comcast.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Out of interest, and on topic, do I remember someone yesterday saying that Bioware will be having a Q&A session at PAX? How do they usually do the Q&A stuff there?


Maybe they know. Image IPB

 
Oh they  know, the question is are they perpared... Image IPB

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nitefyre410 wrote...

One line... all that needs to be said.. 

"I wish we had more time.." 

I jumped into that mission  with  an iron will to  Tali all the time in the worid... Bioware had other plans.   They jump on Tali house like... 

"F- Your house*  


Yeah, you guys did get other cup of bitter dissappointment. Slightly different flavour, but guaranteed to hurt your insides just the same. And so did everyone, reagrdless of their LI, I guess.

Garrus lovers got married and were expecting a nice future (in tropical environment living of the royalties of vids), Tali lovers were promised a house on Rannoch, giving Tali some time to adjust to the whole concept of having a home and a family, Liara had actually developed as a character (and as a person), and would have had blue babies, if not already pregnant at the time of the ending (you can never know with asari, can you?).... :crying:

And, umm, I have nothing to say about Kaidan/Ashley since I don't know anything about them as LI, sorry, don't shoot me :blush:

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I think all the romances are incredibly well developed.this game and this franchise was getting better with each game ....and than star child happened ...If this was Syndicate I could have used minigun or perseudaton to have a satisfying conclusion ...
I know thay say you cant torture children but in this case I think we all agree exception could be made...
Also ASH is always a leading Romance for me...than Jack ... than Liara....
Also Liara was boring but in ME2 she became BAD ASS....

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Nharia1 wrote...

So do we know if they're going to be doing live streaming from PAX? Or are we going to have to hear about it in the news? I'm hoping there will be a Live Stream from the floor, but you can't get everything...

Chris Priestly pm'd me yesterday saying that they were working on it and they would let us know if they get it working. I haven't checked so I don't know if he's said anything yet but as far as I'm aware it's not set up at the moment.

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Atrocity wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

One line... all that needs to be said.. 

"I wish we had more time.." 

I jumped into that mission  with  an iron will to  Tali all the time in the worid... Bioware had other plans.   They jump on Tali house like... 

"F- Your house*  


Yeah, you guys did get other cup of bitter dissappointment. Slightly different flavour, but guaranteed to hurt your insides just the same. And so did everyone, reagrdless of their LI, I guess.

Garrus lovers got married and were expecting a nice future (in tropical environment living of the royalties of vids), Tali lovers were promised a house on Rannoch, giving Tali some time to adjust to the whole concept of having a home and a family, Liara had actually developed as a character (and as a person), and would have had blue babies, if not already pregnant at the time of the ending (you can never know with asari, can you?).... :crying:

And, umm, I have nothing to say about Kaidan/Ashley since I don't know anything about them as LI, sorry, don't shoot me :blush:


Not sure about Ashley, but with Kaidan we got 'I can't lose you again' complete with sobbing (OK that part was me but it was there).  It so broke my heart, having known the ending was coming.  :crying::crying::crying::crying:

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dunno if you guys have seen this, but some time ago the good Dr. Ray told Gamespot that they are "checking [Skyrim] out aggressively...We think we can do some wonderful things."

http://asia.gamespot...-skyrim-6347939

This really shows that in the pursuit of $$$, BW has really lost their way, probably due to our good friends at EA. They really have forgotten what makes them what they are, and what resonates with their most loyal players (US!). If we want open world, we go to Bethesda. If we want great, fleshed out characters, compelling storylines, we go BW. By forgetting their core constituency, BW is risking everything that they have built to date, including these loyal fans, as evidenced by their missteps with DA2 and ME3. C'mon Bioware, gain our trust again!

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Atrocity wrote...

*snip*
And, umm, I have nothing to say about Kaidan/Ashley since I don't know anything about them as LI, sorry, don't shoot me :blush:

Sheesh talk about taking all the fun out of my day! lol Image IPB

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Phoenix NL wrote...

See they did the same with Kaidan, one of the last things he says to you is "I can't lose you again." and then haha says Bioware, no way you're coming back from this one! Kaidan can go through all of the trauma of losing Shepard all over again!


I'd say, don't worry, he's probably not even alive, but a) that's not comforting B) he is, isn't he, due to cut scene space magic thingy, left stranded on a planet, trying to repopulate the world with Joker... 

You can shoot me now, it'd be a kindness :pinched:

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wicked_being wrote...

Anyone else think Bioware tried to make their own version of Kobayashi Maru (Crucible is just a fancy word for 'test') with the RGB ending?

An attempt so poorly implemented, it fell flat on their faces.

"I don't believe in the no-win scenario."  - Admiral James T. Kirk

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DJBare wrote...

Popping this one at the top "The content is great! Can't wait to play it with a broader audience."
Remember to remain cool and hold the line.


So is that pretty much saying "We are working on MP stuff" or am I reading it wrong?

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Atrocity wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

See they did the same with Kaidan, one of the last things he says to you is "I can't lose you again." and then haha says Bioware, no way you're coming back from this one! Kaidan can go through all of the trauma of losing Shepard all over again!


I'd say, don't worry, he's probably not even alive, but a) that's not comforting B) he is, isn't he, due to cut scene space magic thingy, left stranded on a planet, trying to repopulate the world with Joker... 

You can shoot me now, it'd be a kindness :pinched:



Liara says something similar ;).

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Phoenix NL wrote...

See they did the same with Kaidan, one of the last things he says to you is "I can't lose you again." and then haha says Bioware, no way you're coming back from this one! Kaidan can go through all of the trauma of losing Shepard all over again!


He didn't seem all that traumatised when he stepped off the Normandy in my game...hell he looked delighted.

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ME3 had some pretty bad false advertisement if you think about it, I did not retake earth, there was no epic conclusion, choices what are those? Hell they didn't even put a warning sticker on the box, "Warning! Will most likely result in mass depression, loss of all hope for ME, and loss of will to game" lol

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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Not sure about Ashley, but with Kaidan we got 'I can't lose you again' complete with sobbing (OK that part was me but it was there).  It so broke my heart, having known the ending was coming.  :crying::crying::crying::crying:

I know and you get your Shep saying "When this is over I'll be waiting, you better show up!" Image IPBImage IPB

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Cybermortis wrote...


Phoenix NL wrote...

See they did the same with Kaidan, one of the last things he says to you is "I can't lose you again." and then haha says Bioware, no way you're coming back from this one! Kaidan can go through all of the trauma of losing Shepard all over again!


He didn't seem all that traumatised when he stepped off the Normandy in my game...hell he looked delighted.


Yea same, that ticked me off - why aren't you mourning???!!!

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Cybermortis wrote...
The reason I asked is that it seems unlikely that BW would have a Q&A session unless they are either very confident what they have to say is going to be well received OR that they can control the questions being asked. Either is possible...but eliminating any questions about the ending, or cherry-picking only those questions they can brush off/answer without having to commit to anything would be rather moronic. If Bioware has learnt anything over the last three weeks, it (hopefully) would be that such a tactic is likely to be noticed and commented on in a matter of minutes...and not just by their customers. And they certainly are not in a position where they could ignore the ending issue. 

I also recall that Bioware's time on stage was reduced to an hour (although this may not have been Bioware's decision). So assume maybe 40-50 minutes for the 'sales pitch' and 10-20 minutes for questions at the end?

*Muses*

You know, that doesn't seem enough time for them to discuss both the ending issue and all the upcoming DLC they have planned in any detail...and as I noted they can't ignore the ending issue and I doubt they could brush it off. They do read the boards, and will be aware that for a lot of people PAX is going to be the crunch point and if they try to downplay a new ending or stall for time it will cost them a LOT of customers. Likewise concentrating on other DLC would be rather daft if a large number of customers are on the brink of trading their games in and leaving Bioware for good.
It also seems likely that they would be aware that 'clarrifying' the ending wouldn't be good enough. What is wanted and needed is an entirely new ending.

I'm not sure what to make of this. I'd like to think that it is a sign that they are going to announce an ending DLC. But it could also be a sign that they intend to brush the matter off as quickly as possible and not give anyone enough time to question them about it.

Humm.


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ON TOPIC PART

i really dont think they will be confidant, if anyone is wearing a retake t-shirt they either will ignore them or wont let them into the Q&A.

the best laid plan is to have someone in there wearing a bioware t-shirt or even an N7 t-shirt or something that will get them into the bioware panel.

now IF bioware does do the Q&A then they must have planned answers (as always a no comment), or they have some people planted in the crowd (EA does this on a regular basis and was caught out and was really close in getting kicked out and banned from PAX for a looooooooong time) the best way to spot a plant is that bioware will know right away what the answer is  on a really small question.

i just wish valve admit they are making episode 3 and then announce HL3 is slated for a 2013 release.

but again i really do think it will be a slim chance of a Q&A with all the news reports flying around, this might be biowares scary time at PAX where they lose more body weight through sweating Image IPB

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Major Swift wrote...

ME3 had some pretty bad false advertisement if you think about it, I did not retake earth, there was no epic conclusion, choices what are those? Hell they didn't even put a warning sticker on the box, "Warning! Will most likely result in mass depression, loss of all hope for ME, and loss of will to game" lol


You mean like this; 
http://i7.photobucke...ct-3warning.jpg

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So I'll just leave this here for comedic value - http://twitter.com/#...596294634774528

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Meteor_VII wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Popping this one at the top "The content is great! Can't wait to play it with a broader audience."
Remember to remain cool and hold the line.


So is that pretty much saying "We are working on MP stuff" or am I reading it wrong?



Co-op Campaign mode, now we bring the dissapointment of the endings to more people at once!