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[Gigaheart]

firstarioch wrote...

Endings will be fixed ...PLEASE people LAW of ATTRACTION .HAVE FAITH and BELIEF.
NO PESSIMISM here.
If everyone gets positive than energy we create its working the cosmos our way.
I believe in it.
We will get what we want.
ITs too big now .

Agreed. Hold the line ppl!

[chmarr]

toffeetrooper wrote...

hi all just checking in after work. going out for a few beers later so wont be on for long.
hows the line holding going?

mmmmmmmm beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

[laughing sherpa girl]

Max Knight wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Hmmm, who would be peoples favorite fictional character to come and save Shepard as a Deus ex machina? I vote for batman or every power ranger.

Adam Jensen lol

Captain Harlock

Simon of Gurren Laggan. His is the drill that will pierce the heavens ::

[laughing sherpa girl]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Pulling off a ending that keeps "artistic integrity" that we will like is going to be like threading a string through a needle hole on a wooden roller coaster.

While moving at 60 mph..

[chmarr]

THIS is intresting

http://vgutopia.com/...me-for-clarity/

Modifié par chmarr, 30 mars 2012 - 05:08 .

[Phoenix NL]

Don't worry Kyria, I'm with you. This whole thing just seems way too out of character for Bioware. They've given us 3 brilliant games (minus ending of course) and the whole DA franchise. I liked DA:2 and I'm looking forward to what they're going to do for the next game and how they'll tie it all together. For a company that has gotten it and listened to the fans for so long this just seems off. I don't know what they've got hidden up their sleeve but I can't honestly believe that they looked at that ending and thought that this was going to bring happiness to their fans.

[Nayt Navare]

Dj14365 wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...
Hmmm, who would be peoples favorite fictional character to come and save Shepard as a Deus ex machina? I vote for batman or every power ranger.

Adam Jensen lol

Captain Harlock

Jason Bourne

To starchild, "I swear to god if I even feel you behind me there is no measure to how fast and how hard I will bring this fight to your doorstep."

Time to give up on the space magic starchild.

Does my Faith in Bioware count as a fictional character? (Ooh, meta-burn)

Otherwise, Snake-Eyes or Captain America.  The Master Chief and Duke Nukem also apply.... Ooh, or Magneto.  Lol, reapers done.

[rizuno]

I have hope, I still have such hope.

I do believe in BioWare, I do, I do!

herpderp.

[RussianOrc]

Shepard: Who built you?
Sovereign: THERE IS A REALM OF EXISTENCE SO FAR BEYOND YOUR OWN, YOU CAN NOT EVEN IMAGINE IT.
Shepard: Let me guess, this is where the space magic happens.

[CDHarrisUSF]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...
Hmmm, who would be peoples favorite fictional character to come and save Shepard as a Deus ex machina? I vote for batman or every power ranger.

I bet Inspector Spacetime could find a way...

[Nayt Navare]

ON TOPIC DISCUSSION- How have you Held the Line in your own personal life?

I have personally warned every customer in my store that, while 99.8% of the game is amazing, a majority of fans and consumers are disappointed with the ending.

[Zwei133]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Zwei133 wrote...

@Kyria

I believe it has to do with this.

The lead writer leaves; maybe his replacements didn't like being second choices and wanted to make the series their own rather than following what their predecessor had in mind.

Just an idea my friends and I had the other night.

I would be all over that if all of ME 3 had been crap (remember Drew left during ME 2 to move over to TOR, so all of ME 3 was written by Mac and company), but it wasn't so for 95% of the game, they remembered who their audience was, it's that other 5% that has me scratching my head and going WTF.  I mean I guess we could run with the idea that because they hadn't been choice number one they intentionally did this, but I just can't see that getting past the higher ups, I mean really?

I don't know, most people don't consider me an optimist, but maybe I am being overly optimistic about this.  I just don't know, but maybe it really is me just not wanting to think the worst of Bioware.  I guess I'll just keep moving forward and we'll see what happens as it happens. 

HOLD THE LINE!

I have a different theory every day; I'm trying to find reason in this tragedy where there is none to be had.

As for the first 95%...  It blows my mind the subtle (and not-so-subtle) impact decisions in the previous games have on the game (which makes the ending even harder to swallow).

Here is an example that I stumbled upon (spoilers ahoy) recently:

My only ME3 play through (can't bring myself to play it again, or any of the previous games) was based on my femshep, who romanced Liara in ME1, waited for her in ME2, re-affirmed my relationship with her in the shadow broker DLC, and continued to do so in ME3.

I was talking to my friends about some of the more touching scenes (I couldn't show them Mordin's death, they didn't want spoilers) so I picked the romance scene, looked it up on youtube, found one that chose the same convo options I did, and played it.

Only, it wasn't the same as mine.  There were very subtle differences.

My game:

Liara: I love you
Shep: I love you too
Liara: Show me
*Commence physical romance*

Youtube:

Liara: You mean a great deal to me
Shep: I love you Liara T'Soni
Liara: I love you too.
*Commence physical romance*

Why does this matter?

Because for the exact same convo options, some decision somewhere in the games/dlc changed the way this scene played out in a subtle (but important, imo) way.  This is a great example of the skill and attention to detail the writers of Mass Effect have put into developing the characters and story of the game.  It also shows how such subtle differences can change the feel of a scene without changing its outcome.

Given that BioWare can not only incoporate the past actions of Shepard properly, and when it needs to, still have the same outcome (think ME2; either the collector base blows up or it doesn't, but countless factors change the entire feel and flow of the ending), it astounds me the endings are what they are.

/endrant

[Dj14365]

RussianOrc wrote...

Shepard: Who built you?
Sovereign: THERE IS A REALM OF EXISTENCE SO FAR BEYOND YOUR OWN, YOU CAN NOT EVEN IMAGINE IT.
Shepard: Let me guess, this is where the space magic happens.

This is where starchild uses space magic to process organics into synthetics with the purpose of killing organics so they can't build synthetics that will I turn kill organics.

I don't see how people aren't getting this, it's only logical.

[Adam-Sadface]

firstarioch wrote...

Endings will be fixed ...PLEASE people LAW of ATTRACTION .HAVE FAITH and BELIEF.
NO PESSIMISM here.
If everyone gets positive than energy we create its working the cosmos our way.
I believe in it.
We will get what we want.
ITs too big now .

Here, here. This won't go away, we won't give up.

Believe.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

SE JN wrote...

ON TOPIC DISCUSSION- How have you Held the Line in your own personal life?

I have personally warned every customer in my store that, while 99.8% of the game is amazing, a majority of fans and consumers are disappointed with the ending.

I walk around with this shirt. It says "NEVER FORGET" on the back, too.
So far, one person in public understood it. His face was priceless.

[nitefyre410]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

SE JN wrote...

ON TOPIC DISCUSSION- How have you Held the Line in your own personal life?

I have personally warned every customer in my store that, while 99.8% of the game is amazing, a majority of fans and consumers are disappointed with the ending.

I walk around with this shirt. It says "NEVER FORGET" on the back, too.
So far, one person in public understood it. His face was priceless.

 

that shirt pure awesome. 

[Darth Garrus]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

I walk around with this shirt. It says "NEVER FORGET" on the back, too.
So far, one person in public understood it. His face was priceless.

This is nice as nice can be.

[toffeetrooper]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

*snip*
And, umm, I have nothing to say about Kaidan/Ashley since I don't know anything about them as LI, sorry, don't shoot me 

Sheesh talk about taking all the fun out of my day! lol

in the final chat shep quotes tennyson
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell

ash says she dosent whant him to go then they kiss

[chmarr]

i would PAY for the bioware staff to walk out wearing "Maruder Shields........Never Forget" t-shirts


also can we move the love intrest posts to the love intrests section of the forums please

i'll give you cookies if you do but NOT CUPCAKES.........THERE FOR THE KIDS

Modifié par chmarr, 30 mars 2012 - 05:24 .

[Darth Garrus]

toffeetrooper wrote...

in the final chat shep quotes tennyson
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell

ash says she dosent whant him to go then they kiss

I thought Ash quoted Tennyson.

[FinalEndeavor]

RussianOrc wrote...

Shepard: Who built you?
Sovereign: THERE IS A REALM OF EXISTENCE SO FAR BEYOND YOUR OWN, YOU CAN NOT EVEN IMAGINE IT.
Shepard: Let me guess, this is where the space magic happens.

Sovereign:  OH **** HOW DID YOU KNOW???? I SHOULD GO......

[Lord Costantino]

 Thought this was worth a look...seems this is going to be a Trend for most game studios now...my list for games is growing ever shorter.

[toffeetrooper]

chmarr wrote...

i would PAY for the bioware staff to walk out wearing "Maruder Shields........Never Forget" t-shirts


also can we move the love intrest posts to the love intrests section of the forums please

i'll give you cookies if you do but NOT CUPCAKES.........THERE FOR THE KIDS

ok but only because you offerd cookies

[Dj14365]

chmarr wrote...

i would PAY for the bioware staff to walk out wearing "Maruder Shields........Never Forget" t-shirts


also can we move the love intrest posts to the love intrests section of the forums please

i'll give you cookies if you do but NOT CUPCAKES.........THERE FOR THE KIDS

Perhaps we should break away from the sweets and send them some t-bones or something else along the entree Or main course line.

Modifié par Dj14365, 30 mars 2012 - 05:27 .

[RussianOrc]

chmarr wrote...

THIS is intresting

http://vgutopia.com/...me-for-clarity/

I hope this is right, if not then 6 April will be my last day holding the line.....