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[Aedera]

I just hope bioware is getting message loud and clear. We link the articles and what not, I wonder if the moderators go to them or just sit blissfully ignorant in there fortress and just keep repeating the mantra "we are listening.". If they truly are listening, just explaining space magic won't cut it. They are in a very precarious position. They come through at PAX and tell us all new endings are happening, I predict almost all people on the forums will be happy and continue to support bioware.

They come out with another generic statement or an ending that tries to explain the pooh pooh platter we got, they will lose a lot of fans. I know I for one am done with preordering anything. I don't want to be done with bioware but if they screw this up again, I will be.

[Meteor_VII]

t_i_e_ wrote...

Bioware lied to us in the advertisements which were came out only a few months before release. This is false advertising! They need to be sued. Anyone hear of a class action lawsuit yet?

If you are suggesting someone do that you would most likely lose. They would be able to spin anything they said to fit. And plus doing that is totally anti-productive of what the retake movement is doing. We are trying to be the civil nice movement that has at least some media on our side. If someone does that it will only incite articles like the ones about the guy who did the FTC filing.

[Dj14365]

t_i_e_ wrote...

Bioware lied to us in the advertisements which were came out only a few months before release. This is false advertising! They need to be sued. Anyone hear of a class action lawsuit yet?

No that's not going to happen and wouldn't get anything done. It would have the same effect as that FTC guy which isn't what we want. Just stick it out until pax and then we shall see if BW and EA ever gets my money again.

Modifié par Dj14365, 30 mars 2012 - 08:02 .

[RatedRRachel]

Another Forbes article just posted... this one is more on what the movement means, not about the game itself. 

http://www.forbes.co...ffect-protests/

Two articles posted in less than an hour. Got to love Forbes. <3

[chosen_trekie]

DJBare wrote...


Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'

Forbes is starting to become one of my favorit publications.

[deity]

Aedera wrote...

I just hope bioware is getting message loud and clear. We link the articles and what not, I wonder if the moderators go to them or just sit blissfully ignorant in there fortress and just keep repeating the mantra "we are listening.".
*snip*

I doubt they get their information regarding what article says what here on the forums... I do however believe, that their PR department is following the press thoroughly. Especially since I gather, that several media, that wouldn't normally have reported on a computer game, have joined the "fray"

[Alikan]

This made me laugh...and then i got so sad again...(apologies if its already been posted but abit hard to keep up with the thread)

[MisterP146]

*link already posted*

Modifié par MisterP146, 30 mars 2012 - 08:13 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Had this weird idea on "insheption" as someone completing me3 spurts out their drink in disgust and horror the droplets fly in slow motion towards the tv, and (with suitably epic music) pass through the screen and hit unconscious Shepards face waking him up...

Need a break from the line lol

[Darth Garrus]

RatedRRachel wrote...

Another Forbes article just posted... this one is more on what the movement means, not about the game itself. 

http://www.forbes.co...ffect-protests/

Two articles posted in less than an hour. Got to love Forbes. <3

Great! And indeed, you got to love them.

[chmarr]

wow i fell asleep reading the forum...i have had hardly any sleep since the 9th and i havent been at university since the 9th either......i REALLY need to get my arse in gear and go back D:

mass effect 3 has virtually taken over my life

[Spartas Husky]

DJBare wrote...


Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'

getting somewhat bored of some sources trying to protect ME3 as a piece of art.

It is mass produced art. hence the oxymoron. There is no "integrity" to protect in the first place. They are getting paid to achieve maximum profit, if the audicence doesn't like the product they change it. LIke a movie, like a book, tv show w/e.

Is a lot easier to start from the point that the game is... that a game design to be sold in exchange for profit. It is not something the creators did without getting paid, without a patron, and without monetary incentive as a means to portray their idea of art.

The moment you get paid for something you give up most rights to the product.

[Tyion133]

The best way to describe the ending of ME3 would be; ''Sorry Shepard, Your ending is in another castle''

[Darth_Acheron47]

I just want to share a quote from my screenwriting class this morning. My teacher was explaining how to write the ending of a screenplay, and why workshopping and going over what you've written with other people is essential, and this is what she said:

"As a writer you have to recognize audience. You can’t just go “you people just don't get it” and refuse to accept feedback, or you’re just going to be sitting there writing a lot of stuff that only you will ever read forever."

[KHReborn]

Does anybody know, how long amazon will give refunds for the game? I want to give BW a chance until PAX. But when they ruin it at the end, I'd like to give my cop back.

(And does anybody know, if the german amazon gives refunds at all?)

[BigglesFlysAgain]

KHReborn wrote...

Does anybody know, how long amazon will give refunds for the game? I want to give BW a chance until PAX. But when they ruin it at the end, I'd like to give my cop back.

(And does anybody know, if the german amazon gives refunds at all?)

German Amazon are not refunding, UK and US are though.

[Ksandor]

Spartas Husky wrote...

DJBare wrote...


Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'

getting somewhat bored of some sources trying to protect ME3 as a piece of art.

It is mass produced art. hence the oxymoron. There is no "integrity" to protect in the first place. They are getting paid to achieve maximum profit, if the audicence doesn't like the product they change it. LIke a movie, like a book, tv show w/e.

Is a lot easier to start from the point that the game is... that a game design to be sold in exchange for profit. It is not something the creators did without getting paid, without a patron, and without monetary incentive as a means to portray their idea of art.

The moment you get paid for something you give up most rights to the product.

This!

[Alikan]

KHReborn wrote...

Does anybody know, how long amazon will give refunds for the game? I want to give BW a chance until PAX. But when they ruin it at the end, I'd like to give my cop back.

(And does anybody know, if the german amazon gives refunds at all?)

If i recall correct US/North American Amazon gives refunds to april 2nd(?) and german Amazon not at all. Just what i seem to recall reading somewhere in the total thread swamp BSN become last month. Been a few thousands read posts since then so take it with a grain of salt though.

Modifié par Alikan, 30 mars 2012 - 08:39 .

[TamiBx]

chmarr wrote...

wow i fell asleep reading the forum...i have had hardly any sleep since the 9th and i havent been at university since the 9th either......i REALLY need to get my arse in gear and go back D:

mass effect 3 has virtually taken over my life

...you haven't been to school since the 9th?! I really hope you're on break or something, because, you know, it's the 30th...
You might want to go to school...

[KHReborn]

Alikan wrote...

If i recall correct US/North American Amazon gives refunds to april 2nd(?) and german Amazon not at all. Just what i seem to recall reading somewhere in the total thread swamp BSN become last month. Been a few thousands read posts since then so take it with a grain of salt though.

Thanks for the answer. Too bad. Now not only my heart is bleeding, but my wallet is crying, too.

Modifié par KHReborn, 30 mars 2012 - 08:44 .

[Cybermortis]

Spartas Husky wrote...

DJBare wrote...


Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'

getting somewhat bored of some sources trying to protect ME3 as a piece of art.

It is mass produced art. hence the oxymoron. There is no "integrity" to protect in the first place. They are getting paid to achieve maximum profit, if the audicence doesn't like the product they change it. LIke a movie, like a book, tv show w/e.

Is a lot easier to start from the point that the game is... that a game design to be sold in exchange for profit. It is not something the creators did without getting paid, without a patron, and without monetary incentive as a means to portray their idea of art.

The moment you get paid for something you give up most rights to the product.

*Nods*

I commented on the Forbes article, pointing out that those with artistic pretensions should know better than to try and claim art can't be changed.

Interesting to note that the only 'pro-ending' comments can be sumed up as 'I liked the ending, so it shouldn't be changed'...sheesh.

[Aedera]

Yeah I haven't seen one person explain what they liked about the ending. If they say they like it, I ask about the plot holes etc and then I am called a whiner and immature

[nitefyre410]

Spartas Husky wrote...

DJBare wrote...


Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'

getting somewhat bored of some sources trying to protect ME3 as a piece of art.

It is mass produced art. hence the oxymoron. There is no "integrity" to protect in the first place. They are getting paid to achieve maximum profit, if the audicence doesn't like the product they change it. LIke a movie, like a book, tv show w/e.

Is a lot easier to start from the point that the game is... that a game design to be sold in exchange for profit. It is not something the creators did without getting paid, without a patron, and without monetary incentive as a means to portray their idea of art.

The moment you get paid for something you give up most rights to the product.

 

and the People at Forbes do it again...this just getting amusing seeing the "Artistic Ingerty" agrument shot down.. 

[Darth_Acheron47]

My fiance actually liked the ending... Until we talked about it for an hour or so. He still likes the whole "technological singularity" idea and insists it works because the Reapers are already hybrid organic/machine creations, but eventually had to admit that the glaring plot holes in the last few minutes (Joker flying away in the Normandy for no reason, crew appearing there after being on Earth, all mass relays being destroyed, etc.) are completely out of place.

So... He still doesn't totally agree with me, but at least he's not like "oh the ending was perfect" anymore. I guess that's progress.

[TSC_1]

Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

My fiance actually liked the ending... Until we talked about it for an hour or so. He still likes the whole "technological singularity" idea and insists it works because the Reapers are already hybrid organic/machine creations, but eventually had to admit that the glaring plot holes in the last few minutes (Joker flying away in the Normandy for no reason, crew appearing there after being on Earth, all mass relays being destroyed, etc.) are completely out of place.

So... He still doesn't totally agree with me, but at least he's not like "oh the ending was perfect" anymore. I guess that's progress.

Well, there's "singularity" and there's "space magic that makes no sense."