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[Computim]

Atrocity wrote...

kingsims wrote...

Bioware changed their design philosophy anyway in ME3.
*snip picture*
This was during ME2.

I'm biting my lip here at the other side of the screen.
That's the general concept, allright. I guess someone accidentally deleted that powerpoint file between ME2 and 3.

I figured it'd turn out to be something as simple as user error.  "Hey Joe, do you remember that powerpoint we did about the agreement with our customers for ME2?" "Yeah.. why?" "I can't seem  to find it, you remember what we had in it?" "Oh it doesn't matter.. worst case we just make something up as we go! We'll call it Decision Magic  or something."

[toffeetrooper]

Atrocity wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

I can wait for good DLC even many weeks. But I'd like to hear what I should wait for and that requires communication in any given form.

i agree if they announce it was I.T or a large dlc is coming with more options and more endings i could wait a bit longer, if they dont well i'm sure they know by now what would happen

I second this, and also add that I can live with a definite no as well, then I'll just try to get over it, and spend rest of my days in mindless horde-killing MP. I need simply a statement making Biowares intentions crystal clear.

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

[Laterali]

The thing that gets me about video games is the double standard. If you buy a toaster with the promise being it also has a bagel setting, and it doesn't, you can report that company and sue them for false advertising.

But when a developer makes a statement like this;

“Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
variety in them.”

And then what we get in return is exactly an A, B, C ending, actually more along the lines of A1, A2, A3 ending, if someone mentions false advertising, people laugh at us. They say it's just a videogame, at the same time bashing us for daring to corrupt the writer's artistic integrity. We're a consumer group like any other, Video Game companies are exactly that, a company. They create products, if they lie about what the product contains, we have every right to do everything in our power to make sure we got the product that was promised us.

These game review websites that attack from both sides are the problem. until they decide what type of medium they perceive video games, Companies will continue to lie, and then say, you just don't get it.

[405thRazgriz]

chujwamdotego wrote...
*snip quote*
You have my sympathies. I finished ME 3 around 13th or 14th march and haven't touch any game since.

It took me many days to come back to reality. I felt.... betrayed

If you have a PS3, buy the PSN game Journey. It's an incredible experience and also the only game I feel like playing after ME3. I made a post a couple of days ago about just this.

And this is coming from a guy who almost exclusively plays his Xbox 360.

Modifié par 405thRazgriz, 01 avril 2012 - 05:51 .

[laughing sherpa girl]

toffeetrooper wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

I can wait for good DLC even many weeks. But I'd like to hear what I should wait for and that requires communication in any given form.

i agree if they announce it was I.T or a large dlc is coming with more options and more endings i could wait a bit longer, if they dont well i'm sure they know by now what would happen

I second this, and also add that I can live with a definite no as well, then I'll just try to get over it, and spend rest of my days in mindless horde-killing MP. I need simply a statement making Biowares intentions crystal clear.

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

I wont ever play MP either. If they want to have MP, thats fine, but it needs to be seperate from the rest of the game and not a mandatory part of it. Perhaps Bioware wishes to move in the directyion of multi player platforms, while ditching rpg single player platforms, and thats fine as well, for future projects. But with ME they need to seperate thye MP from the Sp and regain the storyline integrity they once had.

[TamiBx]

 Did you guys see the ME cartoon trailer? Still a better ending than ME3 

[Atrocity]

toffeetrooper wrote...

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

I treat the MP as a separate entity, which has no plot but incidentally happens to have same gameplay mechanics with ME2 and 3. So it's just a shooter for me, and a much more pleasant one than Modern Warfares and such.
Though MW2 has cpt. Anderson as well. 'Think twice before throwing grenade uphill'

[DJBare]

Atrocity wrote...
I second this, and also add that I can live with a definite no as well, then I'll just try to get over it, and spend rest of my days in mindless horde-killing MP. I need simply a statement making Biowares intentions crystal clear.

It's easier for me, I never had a love affair with Bioware, they used me(took my money) and I used them(enjoyed their games), when they stop being useful I move on and use another company, I have no interest in MP, so everything hinges on the SP.

[donmaciu]

405thRazgriz wrote...

If you have a PS3, buy the PSN game Journey. It's an incrediable experience and also the only game I feel like playing after ME3. I made a post a couple of days ago about just this.

And this is coming from a guy who almost exclusively plays his Xbox 360.

^This so much... Great emotional experience... 

[laughing sherpa girl]

TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see the ME cartoon trailer? Still a better ending than ME3 

laughed my ass off.. I thought it was a great april fools..

[chrrue_]

toffeetrooper wrote...
*snip*
you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

MP is no option for me, though I enjoyed it. I'm on a complete EA boycott, no BF3, no Fifa and worst no ME, but I have to stick to my principles .

Modifié par chrrue_, 01 avril 2012 - 05:54 .

[chujwamdotego]

405thRazgriz wrote...

If you have a PS3, buy the PSN game Journey. It's an incredible experience and also the only game I feel like playing after ME3. I made a post a couple of days ago about just this.

And this is coming from a guy who almost exclusively plays his Xbox 360.

I'm PC player, I do not have PS3. But I read about Journey game and heard it was fantastic. And actually the one that might pretend to be art.

[405thRazgriz]

donmaciu wrote...

405thRazgriz wrote...

If you have a PS3, buy the PSN game Journey. It's an incrediable experience and also the only game I feel like playing after ME3. I made a post a couple of days ago about just this.

And this is coming from a guy who almost exclusively plays his Xbox 360.

^This so much... Great emotional experience... 

Looked back and found what I wrote:

405thrazgriz wrote...

I've found a remedy for all of us hurting from the endings of Mass Effect 3. I, like many of you, haven't felt like playing any games after I finished Mass Effect 3, let alone turn on my console (I'm primarily an Xbox 360 user). Battlefield 3 is fun and all, but it's getting old. With the new BF3 patch, I doubt I'll be on that game much anyways (fixed some stuff, messed up a LOT more).

Long story short, I was going through my old game library and everything was 'meh' for me.

So, I have this console in my house called a play...cube? Playbox? Ah, that's it, Playstation 3. I've had it for several years now and have four games for it: all three Uncharted games and FFXIII (which is terrible). Needless to say, it didn't take me long to go through my game library for this mostly unused console and decide none of the games really appealed to me in my current state of gaming depression.

However, I remember seeing previews for some game on the PSN called Journey. Up until this point, I never even bothered setting up a PSN account. However, I was desperate for some interactive entertainment and decided to see what the PSN could offer me since the XBLA marketplace is kind of stagnant.

I made my account, went to their marketplace and found the game. It cost $14.99, but that wasn't much of an issue. So, I bought Journey, downloaded it, and started it up.

What happened after that... I... words can't describe. This game -no, this piece of interactive art- somehow managed to evoke more emotions than Mass Effect was ever able to in the entire trilogy. Never before have I been so emotionally invested in a game, and the strangest part is this; there is absolutely NO dialogue, and the only bit of text in-game is the title screen. All you can do is move, jump, and sing to other players you may or not encounter (singing is probably not what you're thinking of).

The game should be boring -stupid even-, but it's not. It's a beautiful piece of art that elicited tears from me. I am, admittedly, an offensive and unemotional person, but this game just moved me in ways that Mass Effect never has. It's only 2 hours long -possibly shorter if you're quick-, but I think I've put more hours replaying this game than my one ME3 play through.

If you have a PS3 and don't have Journey, go to the PSN store and buy it. It's... I can't even explain it. It's an experience all its own. Personally, it is easily my favorite game ever made, and I don't even know why! It just... I can't...

And this brings me to Mass Effect 3. It infuriates me! Mass Effect 3 COULD have been as great as this 2 hour long indie game, it COULD have been an emotional ride that makes an unemotional ****** like me cry, but it wasn't! And this isn't because the writing throughout the majority of the game was bad, or that it wasn't well executed. The reason Mass Effect 3 fell flat on its face for me was because the endings loomed over the entire game. I knew going in about the endings, and it sucked. It truly sucked.

Journey made me realize, now more than ever, how much we were robbed of a great experience because of a non-sensible ending.

I know everything I said about the ending has been said several thousand times by now, but I'm a mostly quiet forum member who just wanted to vent what I've been thinking.

And man, does it feel good to vent.

chujwamdotego wrote...

I'm PC player, I do not have PS3. But I read about Journey game and heard it was fantastic. And actually the one that might pretend to be art. 

For me, video games as art is iffy. Is Gears of War 3 art? Maybe in some eyes, but not mine. However, in my honest opinion, Journey is art. I can't explain why it is, it just is.

Modifié par 405thRazgriz, 01 avril 2012 - 05:57 .

[chujwamdotego]

toffeetrooper wrote...

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

I'm like toffeetroopeer - I don't want to play MP. ME is driven by other factors than multiplayer games.

I actually play games like ME series to avoid engaging into MP.

And if I remember correctly we were told that MP will be only optional, so if someone doesn't want to play his SP story won't be affected.

[Atrocity]

405thRazgriz wrote...

If you have a PS3, buy the PSN game Journey. It's an incredible experience and also the only game I feel like playing after ME3. I made a post a couple of days ago about just this.

And this is coming from a guy who almost exclusively plays his Xbox 360.

I've been meaning to get my hands on that one. How much is it?

[toffeetrooper]

chrrue_ wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...
*snip*
you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

MP is no option for me, though I enjoyed it. I'm on a complete EA boycott, no BF3, no Fifa and worst no ME, but I have to stick to my principles .

the only ea games i have are the mass trilogy( and that was down to my belief in bioware) fifa 12 ended my relationship with ea sports division(it was on shakey ground already). i hope bioware pull something out  of the hat i realy do

[405thRazgriz]

Atrocity wrote...

405thRazgriz wrote...

If you have a PS3, buy the PSN game Journey. It's an incredible experience and also the only game I feel like playing after ME3. I made a post a couple of days ago about just this.

And this is coming from a guy who almost exclusively plays his Xbox 360.

I've been meaning to get my hands on that one. How much is it?

It's $14.99. It's about two hours long, but I've replayed it around ten times already, and suspect I'll replay it at least another ten times.

[toffeetrooper]

chujwamdotego wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

I'm like toffeetroopeer - I don't want to play MP. ME is driven by other factors than multiplayer games.

I actually play games like ME series to avoid engaging into MP.

And if I remember correctly we were told that MP will be only optional, so if someone doesn't want to play his SP story won't be affected.

sadly we were told many things

[405thRazgriz]

toffeetrooper wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

I'm like toffeetroopeer - I don't want to play MP. ME is driven by other factors than multiplayer games.

I actually play games like ME series to avoid engaging into MP.

And if I remember correctly we were told that MP will be only optional, so if someone doesn't want to play his SP story won't be affected.

sadly we were told many things

I was told the winning numbers to the Mega Millions, but I took an arrow to the knee and couldn't get up to the gas station to buy a ticket.

I should go...

[chujwamdotego]

405thRazgriz wrote...

I was told the winning numbers to the Mega Millions, but I took an arrow to the knee and couldn't get up to the gas station to buy a ticket.

I should go...

This quote always makes me chuckle

[Atrocity]

405thRazgriz wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

I've been meaning to get my hands on that one. How much is it?

It's $14.99. It's about two hours long, but I've replayed it around ten times already, and suspect I'll replay it at least another ten times.

Good, PSN is finally starting to get their prices right then. I suppose I could download it tomorrow, though I suppose Hemingway will be taking much of my time.
And no, not my Krogan soldier Hemingway. Though I do get a chuckle out of him everytime I play as a krogan. I also have a drell adept named Austen. And no life now that I think about it. 

[chujwamdotego]

toffeetrooper wrote...

sadly we were told many things

And now we are waiting impatiently to be told more of them

[g_bassi13]

chujwamdotego wrote...

405thRazgriz wrote...

I was told the winning numbers to the Mega Millions, but I took an arrow to the knee and couldn't get up to the gas station to buy a ticket.

I should go...

This quote always makes me chuckle

i40.tinypic.com/24cte6o.jpg

Modifié par g_bassi13, 01 avril 2012 - 06:08 .

[toffeetrooper]

chujwamdotego wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

sadly we were told many things

And now we are waiting impatiently to be told more of them

ya, patience never was one of my strong points

[toffeetrooper]

g_bassi13 wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

405thRazgriz wrote...

I was told the winning numbers to the Mega Millions, but I took an arrow to the knee and couldn't get up to the gas station to buy a ticket.

I should go...

This quote always makes me chuckle

i40.tinypic.com/24cte6o.jpg