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[chujwamdotego]

g_bassi13 wrote...

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Thanks, everytime I see it I just remind myself why I prefer ME series over Bethesda games (excluding the ending of course).

[theluckyshot]

So sorry if this was already posted but I thought it was funny and in my opinion would have been a better ending.

www.youtube.com/watch

[Rdubs]

toffeetrooper wrote...

mass effect 3 is now £24.99 at play .com 2 weeks after eu release
compared to mod 3 wich is £31.99 nearly 5 months later
and skyrim £39.99 nearly 5 months after release.

Holy crap.  This is VERY important, what Toffee brings up.  I just checked GameStop and ME3 is now selling for $10 off the original price.  That is huge for being out 3 weeks.  There are some much less popular games I have seen hold the opening price for much longer.  
This basically means retailers' stock levels are way over where they expected to be and as a result are trying to clear out the excess inventory.  The reason this is huge is because it means retailers' orders to EA to refill the stock, which is what counts as a sale from EA's perspective, those orders are basically zero.  You don't place orders to refill a pipeline you're having to cut price onto clear out.  
This is following the pattern of Dragon Age 2.  Trust me, we are having an effect.  Retailers' initial orders are based off their sales projections, and that they are having to, so soon, take a revenue hit to try and reduce inventory means their sales projections are falling short.

[NeverQuiteAwake]

405thRazgriz wrote...

If you have a PS3, buy the PSN game Journey. It's an incredible experience and also the only game I feel like playing after ME3. I made a post a couple of days ago about just this.

And this is coming from a guy who almost exclusively plays his Xbox 360.

I just need chime in and express my love for Journey :wub: It really helped me get out of my post-ME3 depression. I will not hesitate to call it art. Such an emtional experience

[chrrue_]

g_bassi13 wrote...
*snip*

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priceless

Modifié par chrrue_, 01 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

[Atrocity]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

I just need chime in and express my love for Journey :wub: It really helped me get out of my post-ME3 depression. I will not hesitate to call it art. Such an emtional experience

So I've heard. This Finnish blogger writes in English as well, and I value his opinion on most things:
funpastimes.com/

It's what made me want to get this game, though I remember vaguely hearing about it beforehand as well, back when it was still in development state, with nothing more out than few screenies.

[HITMAN629]

theluckyshot wrote...

So sorry if this was already posted but I thought it was funny and in my opinion would have been a better ending.

www.youtube.com/watch

A quality Harry Partridge toon

[wicked_being]

So apparently Amazon.uk isn't selling the 360 version of ME3:

http://social.biowar...ndex/10878437/1

I'm not sure how I feel about this tbh.

[Rdubs]

chujwamdotego wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

mass effect 3 is now £24.99 at play .com 2 weeks after eu release
compared to mod 3 wich is £31.99 nearly 5 months later
and skyrim £39.99 nearly 5 months after release.

I'm telling You - wallets are the best place to put pressure if You want something from any corporation...

See right here is all the proof you need to know that there isn't any "grand scheme" at play where this ****ty ending was planned to be a red herring all along.  Retailers' orders to EA are zero until retailer stock levels come down.  EA's fiscal YEAR just closed (March 31) - not its fiscal quarter, it's fiscal YEAR.  Companies put everything they have into polishing their fiscal year end results, much more than any quarter.  There is no way they would allowed this backlash to go on and affect sales if they had something planned which could do so.  Trust me, at the end of the day what happened here was as simple as a couple guys who thought they were better than everyone else "assumed control" and tried to rewrite the ending Drew K. Laid out, except they couldn't pull it off.

[g_bassi13]

chujwamdotego wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

i40.tinypic.com/24cte6o.jpg

Thanks, everytime I see it I just remind myself why I prefer ME series over Bethesda games (excluding the ending of course).

I don't really understand why the two need to be mutually exclusive. I enjoy both myself. I would say I used to favour Bioware overall, but with their last couple of games they've released, I've now become a bit disillusioned with the company. I would say I hope they pick up their act, but if they don't release a proper ending for Mass Effect 3, I won't even buy their next game let alone care how it ends up.

[toffeetrooper]

wicked_being wrote...

So apparently Amazon.uk isn't selling the 360 version of ME3:

http://social.biowar...ndex/10878437/1

I'm not sure how I feel about this tbh.

speaking to my brother he is under the impresion that amazon has froze sales untill pax
this could be good marketing on their part, if there is a good annoucment they can restart sales at full price whereas companys who have droped there prices would look bad if they put them up again.

[chujwamdotego]

g_bassi13 wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

i40.tinypic.com/24cte6o.jpg

Thanks, everytime I see it I just remind myself why I prefer ME series over Bethesda games (excluding the ending of course).

I don't really understand why the two need to be mutually exclusive. I enjoy both myself. I would say I used to favour Bioware overall, but with their last couple of games they've released, I've now become a bit disillusioned with the company. I would say I hope they pick up their act, but if they don't release a proper ending for Mass Effect 3, I won't even buy their next game let alone care how it ends up.

I never meant to say the two need to exclude themselves. I just always prefered Bioware products. I considered them well prepared, deisgned and much more entertaining than Bethesda's.

In spite of that I don't recall Bethesda dropping a ball like Bioware did.

It just shows that all You need to do is one bad move to loose reputation and fanbase.

But Bioware may overcome it by offering 16 different endings.

If they do it, they can count me again as a customer.

[nitefyre410]

Rdubs wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

mass effect 3 is now £24.99 at play .com 2 weeks after eu release
compared to mod 3 wich is £31.99 nearly 5 months later
and skyrim £39.99 nearly 5 months after release.

I'm telling You - wallets are the best place to put pressure if You want something from any corporation...

See right here is all the proof you need to know that there isn't any "grand scheme" at play where this ****ty ending was planned to be a red herring all along.  Retailers' orders to EA are zero until retailer stock levels come down.  EA's fiscal YEAR just closed (March 31) - not its fiscal quarter, it's fiscal YEAR.  Companies put everything they have into polishing their fiscal year end results, much more than any quarter.  There is no way they would allowed this backlash to go on and affect sales if they had something planned which could do so.  Trust me, at the end of the day what happened here was as simple as a couple guys who thought they were better than everyone else "assumed control" and tried to rewrite the ending Drew K. Laid out, except they couldn't pull it off.

  

I already  knew there was not grand scheme at play.. could there have been.. yes but Bioware and EA reactions point towards their being none.    You are abosoluty right with the fiscal year closing out there is noway in hell they would let  something  this negative go on if there was plan all of along. Second - it there was a plan it would have been very ham fist about  it.   The mere fact that this game has dropped 10 in 3 weeks is telling me we have hit them were its hurts... and its a slow festering wound(the worst kind).     

[Missy_MI]

toffeetrooper wrote...
speaking to my brother he is under the impresion that amazon has froze sales untill pax
this could be good marketing on their part, if there is a good annoucment they can restart sales at full price whereas companys who have droped there prices would look bad if they put them up again.

Wouldn't BioWare have to release rather concrete information about ending DLC for that to happen?  I mean, if we get no comment or more 'listening but not talking' type of responses, I don't think that would restore enough faith for people to go and buy the game at full price again.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not expecting us to get a ton of info about the 'content initiatives' at PAX.

[Computim]

Missy_MI wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...
speaking to my brother he is under the impresion that amazon has froze sales untill pax
this could be good marketing on their part, if there is a good annoucment they can restart sales at full price whereas companys who have droped there prices would look bad if they put them up again.

Wouldn't BioWare have to release rather concrete information about ending DLC for that to happen?  I mean, if we get no comment or more 'listening but not talking' type of responses, I don't think that would restore enough faith for people to go and buy the game at full price again.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not expecting us to get a ton of info about the 'content initiatives' at PAX.

More likely they made a deal with EA to return a lot of their stock and aren't reordering until the public opinion comes back.

It would explain the $10 price hike back a couple days after the return drive started there a couple weeks ago.  It's not uncommon in the retail industry to have your supplier write off stock for you or take it back if you're a large enough customer.

[toffeetrooper]

Computim wrote...

Missy_MI wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...
speaking to my brother he is under the impresion that amazon has froze sales untill pax
this could be good marketing on their part, if there is a good annoucment they can restart sales at full price whereas companys who have droped there prices would look bad if they put them up again.

Wouldn't BioWare have to release rather concrete information about ending DLC for that to happen?  I mean, if we get no comment or more 'listening but not talking' type of responses, I don't think that would restore enough faith for people to go and buy the game at full price again.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not expecting us to get a ton of info about the 'content initiatives' at PAX.

More likely they made a deal with EA to return a lot of their stock and aren't reordering until the public opinion comes back.

It would explain the $10 price hike back a couple days after the return drive started there a couple weeks ago.  It's not uncommon in the retail industry to have your supplier write off stock for you or take it back if you're a large enough customer.

maybe but no other supplier has done this as yet, and there are other ones as big as amazon. guess we will know in 5 days time, one way or another.

[Computim]

toffeetrooper wrote...

maybe but no other supplier has done this as yet, and there are other ones as big as amazon. guess we will know in 5 days time, one way or another.

The return drive only really hit Amazon and EA's Origin platform.  There were no other digital suppliers for ME3.  EA made sure of that trying to push their new Origin platform.  The only other two large retailers of EA products are Gamestop (accounts for 15% of EA's overall sales and are their largest single customer according to EA's Q3 report) and Amazon really.  Game, in the UK, wasn't able to sell it which dropped them out as well.

Amazon's Customer Review rating was abysmal for ME3 so, from a simple business standpoint, you're not going to reorder in a product that your customers hate and are actively returning.  At least not until EA fixes it.

It's simple business supply chain here.  No active decision to boycott EA by Amazon or anything, just simple business.

[chmarr]

chujwamdotego wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

I'm like toffeetroopeer - I don't want to play MP. ME is driven by other factors than multiplayer games.

I actually play games like ME series to avoid engaging into MP.

And if I remember correctly we were told that MP will be only optional, so if someone doesn't want to play his SP story won't be affected.

and yet to get the "perfect" ending you need to play MP to get the EMS maxed and to do that you need to play through 10 levels of shooting bots that are some how much stronger than in SP.

also not everyone has an apple product, ME-infiltarion and GAW are both IOS only and both increase your  EMS.

so as far as "multiplayer not affecting the SP EMS" is a lie were being forced to play MP as well as IOS games to get 100% EMS.

i do agree Mass Effect is a purly single player rpg, MP degrades the whole game into the same catagory as cod and other shooters now

[toffeetrooper]

chmarr wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

you are more forgivng than i am, MP is not an option to me. i liked ME for the story, the rich collection of caractors, and the choices, bioware have so far took two of them away it would be goodbye from me

I'm like toffeetroopeer - I don't want to play MP. ME is driven by other factors than multiplayer games.

I actually play games like ME series to avoid engaging into MP.

And if I remember correctly we were told that MP will be only optional, so if someone doesn't want to play his SP story won't be affected.

and yet to get the "perfect" ending you need to play MP to get the EMS maxed and to do that you need to play through 10 levels of shooting bots that are some how much stronger than in SP.

also not everyone has an apple product, ME-infiltarion and GAW are both IOS only and both increase your  EMS.

so as far as "multiplayer not affecting the SP EMS" is a lie were being forced to play MP as well as IOS games to get 100% EMS.

i do agree Mass Effect is a purly single player rpg, MP degrades the whole game into the same catagory as cod and other shooters now

and most MP games have average SP, hopefully bioware is not going to go down that road

edit:typo

Modifié par toffeetrooper, 01 avril 2012 - 07:19 .

[talk_sick]

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

Ok we won't

[DJBare]

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

I've never got above 3700 EMS, they said they were going to make it difficult to get the best ending, I had not realised that meant I'd have to endure MP, yes that for me would be difficult, I have no interest in MP!

[chujwamdotego]

I found RaenImrahl (one of the moderators) post on this thread http://social.biowar...x/10098213/233.

Post says:

Chris P's post on PAX is here: http://social.biowar.../index/10822886

While there is not a panel dedicated to the ending controversy, plenty of ME developers (and Dragon Age, too) will be there.

What to make of it?

Modifié par chujwamdotego, 01 avril 2012 - 07:23 .

[TheBull]

DJBare wrote...

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

I've never got above 3700 EMS, they said they were going to make it difficult to get the best ending, I had not realised that meant I'd have to endure MP, yes that for me would be difficult, I have no interest in MP!

Me neither and i endured through it and then got punched in the face instead of getting a high five for it.
Thanks Bioware:?

[NeverQuiteAwake]

chujwamdotego wrote...

I found RaenImrahl (one of the moderators) post on this thread http://social.biowar...x/10098213/233.

Post says:

Chris P's post on PAX is here: http://social.biowar.../index/10822886

While there is not a panel dedicated to the ending controversy, plenty of ME developers (and Dragon Age, too) will be there.

What to make of it?

Hm, from that I gather he's saying that the whole panel won't be about the ending, not that they won't talk about it. And if they don't talk about it, someone is sure as hell going to bring it up.