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[nitefyre410]

DJBare wrote...

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

I've never got above 3700 EMS, they said they were going to make it difficult to get the best ending, I had not realised that meant I'd have to endure MP, yes that for me would be difficult, I have no interest in MP!

 

Thats not making something  challengin that is trying to sucker people and force them to play multiplayer because its the new mode they want people to play to get   the Online Pass is all that is.  No other game  I know save a like an MMO has a MP require to beat the SP.  I questioned that when first announced  MP,  I know it sound  sketchy from the start. 

"MP is not required to play SP but if you want the best ending you have to play MP"  <<< doulbe talk something that bioware does alot of I noticed.  

MP is good enough to stand on its own two feet with being  tied to the  SP... it just shows a complete lack of confidence, command and just plain sense on   their part.   I don't hate the MP but I always  feel it should have never be tied directly to  the outcome of the SP... which it is.. as I predicted. 

[chmarr]

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

i got 100% and did everything right and the max i got was 7k so there must be more missions which are dlc which is the plan of bioware.

so yeah we got totally f**ked over again

4k = 50%
8k = 100%
7k = 80% (estimated)

so yyyyyyyyyyeah we are being bent over the table and taken to brown town

[Computim]

chujwamdotego wrote...

I found RaenImrahl (one of the moderators) post on this thread http://social.biowar...x/10098213/233.

Post says:

Chris P's post on PAX is here: http://social.biowar.../index/10822886

While there is not a panel dedicated to the ending controversy, plenty of ME developers (and Dragon Age, too) will be there.

What to make of it?

Three options here... let's call them A, B, and C:

A) They're going to announce stuff, but not have an entire panel FOCUSING on the ending controversy.  (I suspect this is most likely).

 They're not going to make an announcement at PAX.  They may wait until they have more concrete information for the DLC they're releasing. (Less likely but still possible)

C) They've spent the last 3 weeks developing a new race of synthetic attack droids they're going to unleash at PAX to overthrow humanity and enforce their artistic integrity.  I plan to die standing up, with a flamethrower in my hand, just saying.

[Hobbyman]

chmarr wrote...

and yet to get the "perfect" ending you need to play MP to get the EMS maxed and to do that you need to play through 10 levels of shooting bots that are some how much stronger than in SP.

also not everyone has an apple product, ME-infiltarion and GAW are both IOS only and both increase your  EMS.

so as far as "multiplayer not affecting the SP EMS" is a lie were being forced to play MP as well as IOS games to get 100% EMS.

i do agree Mass Effect is a purly single player rpg, MP degrades the whole game into the same catagory as cod and other shooters now

Agreed. The fact that they decided to release 2 "optional" products only for Apple fans was a very bad move that spelled only one thing: Money. Why weren't they released for Android also? I know from personal experience, that the development of applications for both iOS and Android are not that difficult, why was Apple exclusive? Money, is the answer.

Money is also the answer for the MP of ME. The new trend in video games is for companies to find a way to have a continuous income from their titles. How are they going to do that if the players are not continuously playing the game? The MMO's are one blatant example, and it is why many developers are creating MMO's nowadays. Even the free2play ones have some mechanisms for people to spend money on them. If the companies didn't profit from them, then they would close the servers down.

So, back to the MP of ME. Sadly, EA (much like ActiVision) found the chicken that lays the golden eggs. But in order to exploit this chicken as much as possible, it must reassure a constant influx of players who will have to play the game, using somehow, EA's and BioWare's resources (servers). When the players are "hooked up" on this, then they will devise a way to start inserting the "pay for X to get Y boost in your gaming experience stuff" and believe me, it works. It is the philosophy behind every web-browser based game out there and it really works.

Therefore, sadly, the Mass Effect universe will devolve to just another FPS out of the gazillion that are out there now.

Many kudos to Bethesda on this matter, who a few years ago announced in their site that they don't plan to go into the MMO business and will remain true to creating deep SP games like Skyrim and Oblivion.

Modifié par TekMage, 01 avril 2012 - 07:32 .

[Phoenix NL]

chujwamdotego wrote...

I found RaenImrahl (one of the moderators) post on this thread http://social.biowar...x/10098213/233.

Post says:

Chris P's post on PAX is here: http://social.biowar.../index/10822886

While there is not a panel dedicated to the ending controversy, plenty of ME developers (and Dragon Age, too) will be there.

What to make of it?

I think it means that they're hoping to discuss what they have planned in general (weapon packs and mp maps!) and not spend the entire time debating the endings. Hopefully they'll just announce something about it that doesn't cause mass-hysteria.

[Major Swift]

DJBare wrote...

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

I've never got above 3700 EMS, they said they were going to make it difficult to get the best ending, I had not realised that meant I'd have to endure MP, yes that for me would be difficult, I have no interest in MP!

I think someone like 150+ pages or so back figured out that you can't get the 4k minimal EMS without MP because 8k isn't possible or something on SP alone, can get just under 8k, though I may have imagined reading that here lol
Edited to make it sound clearer though I still don't know if what I'm trying to say is getting across lol

Modifié par Major Swift, 01 avril 2012 - 07:40 .

[KRAETZNER]

This thread seems to have slowed down quite a bit. Has there been any news, I've been gone for a bit? Also kind of off topic, but can anyone here make a mass effect mod and upload it to the fallout 3 nexus? I havn't seen any mass effect mods there, and Fallout is the only thing keeping me from finishing Mass Effect 3.

[Denethar]

Anyone have an idea on how long it will be before Bioware actually understand how bad this is?, I mean, seeing the price for the game now, it has clearly affected them in a negative way. We're seeing no real wish to fix it because then their "artistic blablabla" would suffer. But I do wonder if the numbers are better then I think, or if they're still in the denial phase. If they're still trying damage control....then I'd fire my PR department right away, because this is the type of situation that they are needed in and it has apparently failed at most fronts.

[chujwamdotego]

KRAETZNER wrote...

This thread seems to have slowed down quite a bit. Has there been any news, I've been gone for a bit? Also kind of off topic, but can anyone here make a mass effect mod and upload it to the fallout 3 nexus? I havn't seen any mass effect mods there, and Fallout is the only thing keeping me from finishing Mass Effect 3.

Stick to fallout for now. Finishing ME 3 may just cripple Your drive for games

[KRAETZNER]

chujwamdotego wrote...

KRAETZNER wrote...

This thread seems to have slowed down quite a bit. Has there been any news, I've been gone for a bit? Also kind of off topic, but can anyone here make a mass effect mod and upload it to the fallout 3 nexus? I havn't seen any mass effect mods there, and Fallout is the only thing keeping me from finishing Mass Effect 3.

Stick to fallout for now. Finishing ME 3 may just cripple Your drive for games

Understood, if I had any skill in modding I would make the Normandy crew in fallout as companions.

[Major Swift]

Loaded up the save where I'm sure I did everything and I'm sitting at 7400 EMS, that's with MP of course/promoted squads/100% GR

[Kyria Nyriese]

Major Swift wrote...

DJBare wrote...

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

I've never got above 3700 EMS, they said they were going to make it difficult to get the best ending, I had not realised that meant I'd have to endure MP, yes that for me would be difficult, I have no interest in MP!

I think someone like 150+ pages or so back figured out that you can't get 8k without MP, can get just under 8k, though I may have imagined reading that here lol

Let's see, I did 100% completion, went online and found every asset I could possibly get, I missed 10 points becuase of destroying the Collector Base in 2 and I hit and EMS of 3569 without MP.  Now obviously from this I probably had some stuff I missed in the first two games, this Shepard was not my completionist run through so I think that is an obvious one.  But yeah, I don't think it's possible to get the 4000 or 5000 EMS needed to get what I think of as the 'best' ending without MP or the iOS apps.  I know I bloody well hate MP, though I did to get over the 4k hump before hitting the end.

*goes back to grumbling about plotholes and weak story ending*

[chmarr]

chujwamdotego wrote...

KRAETZNER wrote...

This thread seems to have slowed down quite a bit. Has there been any news, I've been gone for a bit? Also kind of off topic, but can anyone here make a mass effect mod and upload it to the fallout 3 nexus? I havn't seen any mass effect mods there, and Fallout is the only thing keeping me from finishing Mass Effect 3.

Stick to fallout for now. Finishing ME 3 may just cripple Your drive for games

i havent touched me3 since i finished it.

i decided to buy me1 (got it brand new for £4 from gamstation) and now i'm on me2, making choices i dident think about back then to which i'm fixing now.

but the ending of me3 basicly killed the passion of playing other games, reading about what capcom did made me feel even more depressed and anti gaming

[DRAGONFIRE50000000]

is there any new news or is it still waiting

[Matt_gekko88]

DRAGONFIRE50000000 wrote...

is there any new news or is it still waiting

Nanananaanaaa~

Modifié par Matt_gekko88, 01 avril 2012 - 08:00 .

[Phoenix NL]

While I'm trying to stay positive I have this bad feeling that PAX isn't going to bring the announcement that we're all hoping for.

[Lord Costantino]

Phoenix NL wrote...

While I'm trying to stay positive I have this bad feeling that PAX isn't going to bring the announcement that we're all hoping for.

They are going to have to announce something about the ending if they don't or they screw up what we are trying to tell them they are going to lose all credibility.

[toffeetrooper]

Phoenix NL wrote...

While I'm trying to stay positive I have this bad feeling that PAX isn't going to bring the announcement that we're all hoping for.

we live in hope

[RussianOrc]

Still a better ending than Mass Effect 3.

[chujwamdotego]

Good night everyone.

Hold the line and be positive.

[Major Swift]

Phoenix NL wrote...

While I'm trying to stay positive I have this bad feeling that PAX isn't going to bring the announcement that we're all hoping for.

I'm such an optimist that I'm actually trusting them that they will definitely have the announcement we want(stupid I know lol)

[Rdubs]

DJBare wrote...

talk_sick wrote...

well, the "perfect" ending requires 4k EMS, and without playing MP, your readiness sits at 50%, which means 8k total to get 4k EMS - not sure if that's possible even with 100% completion, but don't quote me on that.

I've never got above 3700 EMS, they said they were going to make it difficult to get the best ending, I had not realised that meant I'd have to endure MP, yes that for me would be difficult, I have no interest in MP!

Actually they saw this fiasco coming and to get around it they arbitrarily declared that Synthesis was the "perfect" ending, full well knowing that no one really cared for it and everyone wanted their Shepard to have a chance of living (to be with their LI or whatever).  Basically they artificially tried to set the bar low so they could claim they cleared it, but in reality if you want the ending you REALLY want - well sorry that one forces you to play MP.

People have gone through the list of war assets and it's proven there is no way to hit 4,000 EMS @50%.

[LethesDeep]

To everyone talking about the "perfect ending" EMS score (again) it. is. impossible.

I got 100% completion of ME3, saved the Council in ME1, saved the Rachni (both times), made peace between the Geth/Quarians, killed Wrex in ME1, sabotaged the genophage cure and had Eve die (Wreav always commits and never finds out about the deception), recruited EVERY ME2 squadmate as a War Asset, and scanned every star cluster.

So in the end I had full Salarian, Krogan, Turian, Human, Asari, Geth, Quarian, Rachni, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, and Drell support. I had every upgrade for the Crucible you could get. I ended up with 3825 EMS at 50% galactic readiness.

It. Is. Impossible. Please deal with it.

Modifié par LethesDeep, 01 avril 2012 - 08:12 .

[Computim]

LethesDeep wrote...

To everyone talking about the "perfect ending" EMS score (again) it. is. impossible.

I got 100% completion of ME3, saved the Council in ME1, saved the Rachni (both times), made peace between the Geth/Quarians, killed Wrex in ME1, sabotaged the genophage cure and had Eve die (Wreav always commits and never finds out about the deception), and scanned every star cluster.

So in the end I had full Salarian, Krogan, Turian, Human, Asari, Geth, Quarian, Rachni, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, and Drell support. I had every upgrade for the Crucible you could get. I ended up with 3825 EMS at 50% galactic readiness.

It. Is. Impossible. Please deal with it.

I've got 3700 something right now on my ME1-3 paragon with 50% readiness and I know I missed Grunt's EMS since he died, so it's gotta be possible to at least hit the magic 4000 one would think.

[CDHarrisUSF]

Computim wrote...

I've got 3700 something right now on my ME1-3 paragon with 50% readiness and I know I missed Grunt's EMS since he died, so it's gotta be possible to at least hit the magic 4000 one would think.

One would think... but data mining suggests otherwise.