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Denethar wrote...

Anyone have an idea on how long it will be before Bioware actually understand how bad this is?, I mean, seeing the price for the game now, it has clearly affected them in a negative way. We're seeing no real wish to fix it because then their "artistic blablabla" would suffer. But I do wonder if the numbers are better then I think, or if they're still in the denial phase. If they're still trying damage control....then I'd fire my PR department right away, because this is the type of situation that they are needed in and it has apparently failed at most fronts.


What I REALLY wish is that either a former Bioware Edmonton employee or sympathetic current one would tell us what the hell happened and what the hell the internal reaction was, not the front put on by the PR people.  We do know how the ending happened thanks to the PA post fiasco, but there's a lot more to know - like how did the higher-ups react.  Where there many late night conference calls trying to figure out what to do, etc.  It will be a year or so before anyone feels comfortable enough to be earnest about what happened behind the scenes.

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Computim wrote...

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To everyone talking about the "perfect ending" EMS score (again) it. is. impossible.

I got 100% completion of ME3, saved the Council in ME1, saved the Rachni (both times), made peace between the Geth/Quarians, killed Wrex in ME1, sabotaged the genophage cure and had Eve die (Wreav always commits and never finds out about the deception), and scanned every star cluster.

So in the end I had full Salarian, Krogan, Turian, Human, Asari, Geth, Quarian, Rachni, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, and Drell support. I had every upgrade for the Crucible you could get. I ended up with 3825 EMS at 50% galactic readiness.

It. Is. Impossible. Please deal with it.


I've got 3700 something right now on my ME1-3 paragon with 50% readiness and I know I missed Grunt's EMS since he died, so it's gotta be possible to at least hit the magic 4000 one would think.


No it's not. I forgot to mention I had every ME2 squadmate as a War Asset. The ME2 squadmate War Assets only adds 360 points, however some of those points are added automatically once you complete a story or side mission when recruiting other races. Look at your list, I'm positive some of your points came from ME2 squadmates. You'll always be a few hundred points short of 4k.

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It's kind of weird, I played zero multiplayer I only did everything that I could to make sure everyone survived and such, yet I got the Shepbreath ending, I'm not joking, I can go check my EMS if you want but I did zero MP to get the shepbreath

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morning/afternoon/evening...what's new my comrades?

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LethesDeep wrote...

To everyone talking about the "perfect ending" EMS score (again) it. is. impossible.

I got 100% completion of ME3, saved the Council in ME1, saved the Rachni (both times), made peace between the Geth/Quarians, killed Wrex in ME1, sabotaged the genophage cure and had Eve die (Wreav always commits and never finds out about the deception), recruited EVERY ME2 squadmate as a War Asset, and scanned every star cluster.

So in the end I had full Salarian, Krogan, Turian, Human, Asari, Geth, Quarian, Rachni, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, and Drell support. I had every upgrade for the Crucible you could get. I ended up with 3825 EMS at 50% galactic readiness.

It. Is. Impossible. Please deal with it.


^ This.

It has been almost a month. Many, maaaaaany people have tried. They have even opened the files on PC and saw that there aren't enough war assets available. Can we just get over this? Unless you have screenshots and a manual with detailed info on how to get 4000ems with no multiplayer ever, your opinion is irrelevant. It is impossible. Just like NG+ doesn't magically open an awesome new ending. 

Ok, let's move on. :)

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ExcTar wrote...

It's kind of weird, I played zero multiplayer I only did everything that I could to make sure everyone survived and such, yet I got the Shepbreath ending, I'm not joking, I can go check my EMS if you want but I did zero MP to get the shepbreath


We've heard this before. It makes me think that the "Shep Breathes" cutscene depends on something else beyond EMS.

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LethesDeep wrote...

No it's not. I forgot to mention I had every ME2 squadmate as a War Asset. The ME2 squadmate War Assets only adds 360 points, however some of those points are added automatically once you complete a story or side mission when recruiting other races. Look at your list, I'm positive some of your points came from ME2 squadmates. You'll always be a few hundred points short of 4k.


Why do I have the feeling those few hundred points are just DLC away. And yes, the ending being what it is, that might just be the most useless and frustrating DLC ever, even including the FF N7 armour DLC.

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Lolz...I'm sorry but it's a sad, sad day when everyone is busting their asses trying to get a secret breath cutscene - when in reality, who really even knows WTF that means in terms on anything? Just one more endgame element where you can "imagine" what happened. I'm at the point that I don't even care to get it...

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Debi-Tage wrote...

Lolz...I'm sorry but it's a sad, sad day when everyone is busting their asses trying to get a secret breath cutscene - when in reality, who really even knows WTF that means in terms on anything? Just one more endgame element where you can "imagine" what happened. I'm at the point that I don't even care to get it...


your not alone, i havnt tried myself dont see the point as it stands.

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LethesDeep wrote...

ExcTar wrote...

It's kind of weird, I played zero multiplayer I only did everything that I could to make sure everyone survived and such, yet I got the Shepbreath ending, I'm not joking, I can go check my EMS if you want but I did zero MP to get the shepbreath


We've heard this before. It makes me think that the "Shep Breathes" cutscene depends on something else beyond EMS.


I've heard it must be red ending, import/N+ and every single power ranger. Then it's apparently possible to get the breathing scene without MP. That's what I've heard, I think it's something else though. Not that I really care unless the breathing becomes crucial factor in the new endings we'll hopefully get.

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I wonder though, what can they handle in 1 hour? at PAX they are only there for an hour, thats nothing.
3 or 4 questions by fans answered and they are through... i hope they wont stall with multiplayer DLC and what not, and focus on the ending.

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LethesDeep wrote...

We've heard this before. It makes me think that the "Shep Breathes" cutscene depends on something else beyond EMS.


Well that's pretty much correct, checked my EMS it's at 3277 at 50% GR, even got 5 unfinished citadel missions in my journal too, not sure any of them affects the EMS though.

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2700!!

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Debi-Tage wrote...

Lolz...I'm sorry but it's a sad, sad day when everyone is busting their asses trying to get a secret breath cutscene - when in reality, who really even knows WTF that means in terms on anything? Just one more endgame element where you can "imagine" what happened. I'm at the point that I don't even care to get it...

Lol, although there was hardly any effort on my part to get it due to MP, I could also care less that i got to see him/her take half a breath, given the state of current endings lol

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Debi-Tage wrote...

Lolz...I'm sorry but it's a sad, sad day when everyone is busting their asses trying to get a secret breath cutscene - when in reality, who really even knows WTF that means in terms on anything? Just one more endgame element where you can "imagine" what happened. I'm at the point that I don't even care to get it...



I don't care right now, because I'm hoping they are going to fix that stupid ending. But, if they don't, then this is another thing that they promised over and over again that was a lie. They said we could get all the endings without mp...yeah, right <_<

Honestly, I am hoping this was a glitch or a mistake of their part (like some assets were supposed to be more valuable, but a bug is preventing it for happening) and that they will fix it.

And oh, whoever got the breathing scene might have gotten it as a glitch. My friend's game had 0% galaxy readiness during the whole game...

EDIT: this was sad... http://i22.photobuck...n/me3galaxy.jpg

Modifié par TamiBx, 01 avril 2012 - 08:37 .


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ExcTar wrote...

It's kind of weird, I played zero multiplayer I only did everything that I could to make sure everyone survived and such, yet I got the Shepbreath ending, I'm not joking, I can go check my EMS if you want but I did zero MP to get the shepbreath


I heard someone say before they got the shepbreath with under 4000EMS because they played in story mode (or was it at a lower difficulty?) There could've been some other factor attributing to that though.

If you're playing on normal RPG mode, then I have no idea what could've triggered it.

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 01 avril 2012 - 08:36 .


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ExcTar wrote...

LethesDeep wrote...

We've heard this before. It makes me think that the "Shep Breathes" cutscene depends on something else beyond EMS.


Well that's pretty much correct, checked my EMS it's at 3277 at 50% GR, even got 5 unfinished citadel missions in my journal too, not sure any of them affects the EMS though.

Quick question, this first time through or on NG+ because I heard you get it regardless on NG+

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you need about 5000 EMS (i believe) to get the breath scene. I didn't kno that the first time I played, picked destroy and actually wasn't sure which Destroy scene I got. Next time, i went in with over 6500, got the breath scene (resolved the genophage, resolved the geth-quarian issue, did a boatload of side missions and scans).

The Galactic Readiness percentage means WAY too much. It essentially forces anyone who doesn't have a near perfect save from ME-2 to play a boatload of multiplayer AND meta-game the side missions and scans just to get the breath scene. It's nonsense.

Modifié par CuseGirl, 01 avril 2012 - 08:37 .


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So I was on twitter when I was sent here - http://masseffect.bi...ty/comm_center/

I have never been on that site but I guessing some of you have and my question is: is that the regular page?

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

ExcTar wrote...

It's kind of weird, I played zero multiplayer I only did everything that I could to make sure everyone survived and such, yet I got the Shepbreath ending, I'm not joking, I can go check my EMS if you want but I did zero MP to get the shepbreath


I heard someone say before they got the shepbreath with under 4000EMS because they played in story mode (or was it at a lower difficulty?) There could've been some other factor attributing to that though.

If you're playing on normal RPG mode, then I have no idea what could've triggered it.


I have played both story mode and RPG mode. Nope, did not get the scene. :whistle:

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HITMAN629 wrote...

So I was on twitter when I was sent here - http://masseffect.bi...ty/comm_center/

I have never been on that site but I guessing some of you have and my question is: is that the regular page?


This site is speculationz from/for everyone with unicorn-space-magic:wizard:

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Hold on a bit, I have about 4700 in war assets at 50% readiness (I haven't even touched MP) just before starting the Earth mission in my second playthrough. Now that just doesn't make sense, according to what everyone else seems to experience. I've done pretty much every mission I could do in that playthrough, but I'm certain I've missed some points since I destroyed the geth and haven't got any DLC from previous games. Can we shed some light on this? Very peculiar. c: