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We've heard this before. It makes me think that the "Shep Breathes" cutscene depends on something else beyond EMS.


Well that's pretty much correct, checked my EMS it's at 3277 at 50% GR, even got 5 unfinished citadel missions in my journal too, not sure any of them affects the EMS though.

Quick question, this first time through or on NG+ because I heard you get it regardless on NG+


No, you do not get it on NG+. I did NG+ and no breathing scene. 
Also, NG+ is only required for those who are doing a new Shepard. If you imported a Shepard form ME2, it's the same as a NG+...or so said Bioware a month ago

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TamiBx wrote...

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ExcTar wrote...

It's kind of weird, I played zero multiplayer I only did everything that I could to make sure everyone survived and such, yet I got the Shepbreath ending, I'm not joking, I can go check my EMS if you want but I did zero MP to get the shepbreath


I heard someone say before they got the shepbreath with under 4000EMS because they played in story mode (or was it at a lower difficulty?) There could've been some other factor attributing to that though.

If you're playing on normal RPG mode, then I have no idea what could've triggered it.


I have played both story mode and RPG mode. Nope, did not get the scene. :whistle:


Hmm, that's weird. We can try speculating why ExcTar got the shepbreath then. Maybe it was a bug =]

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Sealcat wrote...

Hold on a bit, I have about 4700 in war assets at 50% readiness (I haven't even touched MP) just before starting the Earth mission in my second playthrough. Now that just doesn't make sense, according to what everyone else seems to experience. I've done pretty much every mission I could do in that playthrough, but I'm certain I've missed some points since I destroyed the geth and haven't got any DLC from previous games. Can we shed some light on this? Very peculiar. c:


check your EMS, not total war assets. EMS is the one right above the bar. 

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Sealcat wrote...

Hold on a bit, I have about 4700 in war assets at 50% readiness (I haven't even touched MP) just before starting the Earth mission in my second playthrough. Now that just doesn't make sense, according to what everyone else seems to experience. I've done pretty much every mission I could do in that playthrough, but I'm certain I've missed some points since I destroyed the geth and haven't got any DLC from previous games. Can we shed some light on this? Very peculiar. c:


You have TOTAL assets at 4700 or EMS at 4700?

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Little Miss Angel wrote...

I heard someone say before they got the shepbreath with under 4000EMS because they played in story mode (or was it at a lower difficulty?) There could've been some other factor attributing to that though.

If you're playing on normal RPG mode, then I have no idea what could've triggered it.


I have played both story mode and RPG mode. Nope, did not get the scene. :whistle:


Hmm, that's weird. We can try speculating why ExcTar got the shepbreath then. Maybe it was a bug =]


Like this one?  :P

http://i22.photobuck...n/me3galaxy.jpg

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Oh how I wish that our circumstances were different. If only BioWare could have released the endings that we were hoping for then our biggest problem would only be the EMS issue. Then BioWare, listening to our plea as always would release DLC which would allow us to increase our EMS to the highest requirement without the need for MP. Sigh...

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

I heard someone say before they got the shepbreath with under 4000EMS because they played in story mode (or was it at a lower difficulty?) There could've been some other factor attributing to that though.

If you're playing on normal RPG mode, then I have no idea what could've triggered it.


Character stems from ME1 and then through to ME2 and then to ME3, at the import I didn't get a choice of gameplay option, I'm pretty certain it's roleplay though, difficulty at normal, but can't say for sure since i didn't get prompted, combat was average, and all dialogue options was available.

Quick question, this first time through or on NG+ because I heard you get it regardless on NG+


I assume NG+ means an import from a former game, in that case, yes, character is as old as ME1 and 2

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Jere85 wrote...

I wonder though, what can they handle in 1 hour? at PAX they are only there for an hour, thats nothing.
3 or 4 questions by fans answered and they are through... i hope they wont stall with multiplayer DLC and what not, and focus on the ending.


Hah! Makes me wonder if they will have "fans" set up in the crowd to "call on" I can see it now:
100 people dressed as Marauder Shields, waving their hands furiously...
*Casey pretends to look around with great trepidation*
"you there!" he points as a seemingly normal fan steps forward...
"Hi...I just want to say, I love Mass Effect and think ME3 was the greatest game in the history of the world! Can you tell us how it feels to finish such an amazing franchise, and how can I get in on some MP bonus maps!?"
*all the devs chuckle in unison*
"Well...thank you, and that's a great question!"

:sick:

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From what I've read and experienced, the magic number seems to be 5000 EMS and you get the breath scene. I don't kno if some other decisions come into play tho.....

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CuseGirl wrote...

From what I've read and experienced, the magic number seems to be 5000 EMS and you get the breath scene. I don't kno if some other decisions come into play tho.....


4000EMS if you save Anderson on Citadel (aka talking TIM into killing himself). 

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TamiBx wrote...

Little Miss Angel wrote...
Hmm, that's weird. We can try speculating why ExcTar got the shepbreath then. Maybe it was a bug =]


Like this one?  :P

http://i22.photobuck...n/me3galaxy.jpg


LOL. That made me laugh so hard. Imagine going into battle with 0 EMS.

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TamiBx wrote...

No, you do not get it on NG+. I did NG+ and no breathing scene. 
Also, NG+ is only required for those who are doing a new Shepard. If you imported a Shepard form ME2, it's the same as a NG+...or so said Bioware a month ago


So basically the only good part of the ending shows up if you've never played Mass Effect before....

Seriously Bioware?!  Did you club baby seals to get the melee sound effects too or something? Image IPB

Great fanbase loyalty there.  I'm actually sitting here trying to wrap my head around the logic of that and failing miserably. Image IPB

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KHReborn wrote...

HITMAN629 wrote...

So I was on twitter when I was sent here - http://masseffect.bi...ty/comm_center/

I have never been on that site but I guessing some of you have and my question is: is that the regular page?


This site is speculationz from/for everyone with unicorn-space-magic:wizard:


So, thats Bioware's April fools joke?

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 I have been telling the same thing so many times to people...it's all over BSN:
1) we all know that it is impossible to get 4000 ems without multiplayer (no one has done it and shown proof. Ever.)
2) Yes, we have gotten the best outcome possible.
3)Yes, we have scanned every single little planet and done every single mission
4) NG+ does not open a magic ending (not even breathing scene...unless you have a brand new Shepard). 

Also, wouldn't this be a gameplay concern rather than campaign and story? :huh:

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After reading this article, I no longer blame Bioware as a whole for these endings.

http://www.gamesthir...e-stays-silent/

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Debi-Tage wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

I wonder though, what can they handle in 1 hour? at PAX they are only there for an hour, thats nothing.
3 or 4 questions by fans answered and they are through... i hope they wont stall with multiplayer DLC and what not, and focus on the ending.


Hah! Makes me wonder if they will have "fans" set up in the crowd to "call on" I can see it now:
100 people dressed as Marauder Shields, waving their hands furiously...
*Casey pretends to look around with great trepidation*
"you there!" he points as a seemingly normal fan steps forward...
"Hi...I just want to say, I love Mass Effect and think ME3 was the greatest game in the history of the world! Can you tell us how it feels to finish such an amazing franchise, and how can I get in on some MP bonus maps!?"
*all the devs chuckle in unison*
"Well...thank you, and that's a great question!"

:sick:


I always thought that was a myth until my uncle who used to work at IBM (basically the computer version of EA) and swore on his mother's grave that one of the people asking questions at a massive employee questioning event was Bailiff Douglass from the People's Court <_<

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ExcTar wrote...

Little Miss Angel wrote...

I heard someone say before they got the shepbreath with under 4000EMS because they played in story mode (or was it at a lower difficulty?) There could've been some other factor attributing to that though.

If you're playing on normal RPG mode, then I have no idea what could've triggered it.


Character stems from ME1 and then through to ME2 and then to ME3, at the import I didn't get a choice of gameplay option, I'm pretty certain it's roleplay though, difficulty at normal, but can't say for sure since i didn't get prompted, combat was average, and all dialogue options was available.


Yeah, you were playing in RPG mode on normal, that's the default. So... I guess it was a bug? =]

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HITMAN629 wrote...

KHReborn wrote...

HITMAN629 wrote...

So I was on twitter when I was sent here - http://masseffect.bi...ty/comm_center/

I have never been on that site but I guessing some of you have and my question is: is that the regular page?


This site is speculationz from/for everyone with unicorn-space-magic:wizard:


So, thats Bioware's April fools joke?


Propably. It started short after Australia went into 1st April.
But on the other hand this site is no really joke. It's like one of BW's PR statements: Full of nothing (no offense).

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CuseGirl wrote...

From what I've read and experienced, the magic number seems to be 5000 EMS and you get the breath scene. I don't kno if some other decisions come into play tho.....

4000 if Anderson is saved which, can any tell me why exactly? Lol, and as others have stated its impossible without MP/others might have gotten it as a glitch/EMS might not have anything to do with it

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 To make us all more depress- I meant happier, here:

http://i.chzbgr.com/...a461fa06bb9.jpg

:devil:

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TheInvicibleCandyBar wrote...

After reading this article, I no longer blame Bioware as a whole for these endings.

http://www.gamesthir...e-stays-silent/


Isn't this the rumour that has been going around for a week or so? 

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Atrocity wrote...

TheInvicibleCandyBar wrote...

After reading this article, I no longer blame Bioware as a whole for these endings.

http://www.gamesthir...e-stays-silent/


Isn't this the rumour that has been going around for a week or so? 


Yes.

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

Yeah, you were playing in RPG mode on normal, that's the default. So... I guess it was a bug? =]


I would complete the game again to see if it happens again, but I can't bear to go through that atrocity again, I honestly think it's more likely that there's more to it than just EMS

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Rdubs wrote...

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Anyone have an idea on how long it will be before Bioware actually understand how bad this is?, I mean, seeing the price for the game now, it has clearly affected them in a negative way. We're seeing no real wish to fix it because then their "artistic blablabla" would suffer. But I do wonder if the numbers are better then I think, or if they're still in the denial phase. If they're still trying damage control....then I'd fire my PR department right away, because this is the type of situation that they are needed in and it has apparently failed at most fronts.


What I REALLY wish is that either a former Bioware Edmonton employee or sympathetic current one would tell us what the hell happened and what the hell the internal reaction was, not the front put on by the PR people.  We do know how the ending happened thanks to the PA post fiasco, but there's a lot more to know - like how did the higher-ups react.  Where there many late night conference calls trying to figure out what to do, etc.  It will be a year or so before anyone feels comfortable enough to be earnest about what happened behind the scenes.


Well, the sales figures for the first three weeks are...somewhat ambigous. The % drop in sales is roughly in line with what you'd expect from an AAA title, a few points lower but nothing that would seem to cause undue alarm. It appears that the important points are the first week, and then the 5th,6th and 7th weeks. The really good titles show a rise in sales around the 5th or 6th week that carry on for the next three consecuitive weeks - Both DAO and ME1 showed significant increases in sales around this time, for ME1 it was something like 27% increase in sale in week 7. (I posted sales figures yesterday somewhere on here. The figures were for the X-Box 360 global sales).

Badly received games show consistant falls of around 30% or so after the third week, regardless of how much money was spent on advertising or for that matter what the reviews said about it - DA2 is a prime example. 

Of course sales figures don't tell the whole story, as they don't indicate if the price was lowered nor returns or trade ins. If Amazon UK has been giving out so many refunds they feel that they have to stop selling a title...well that implies that a very large percentage of the sales figures are 'ghost' figures, in so far that they have been cancelled out by returns.

EA/BW should be VERY concerned over Amazon's decision, because this is the second Bioware title in 12 months to see Amazon accept mass refunds on. With DA2 they were giving full refunds because the bugs in the game made it impossible for many console players to play the game, let alone finish it. As far as I know Amazon never stopped selling DA2, although the price dropped like a stone, but this is probably because it was known that Bioware was working on a patch, and the main delay in that patch's release was due to Sony and Microsoft needing to test and clear it - a process that was totally out of Bioware's hands.
ME3 is a different matter, in that the reason is false and/or misleading advertising with no clear indication from Bioware that this problem will be resolved.

Now this is a serious problem because Amazon, and indeed other retailers, are going to view DA3 (or whatever game BW release next) in a negative light. At best they will hold out for a VERY good deal from EA before deciding to stock any future titles, stock far less than EA/BW would like and almost certainly make it crystal clear that if they end up with another misadvertsied or bug ridden product that gets returned in droves they will simply pull the game from sale. At worst retailers could simply refuse to stock any new Bioware games at all, and could potentially (although unrealistically) do the same for all EA games as well.

We've long known that PAX is going to be Bioware's own crucible. But with Amazons decision to stop sales it has become far more vital than ever. If Bioware announces that it will have an ending DLC out in the near future, and this is a free DLC to anyone who wants it, they they will carry on - although with a badly dented reputation. If they give no answers, don't change the ending or release a paid DLC...they are simply finished as a company. Amazon will simply refuse to stock the game, and so will everyone except maybe Origin - and Origin rather tellingly not only allowed refunds but is currently offering Arkham City for £10 if you buy ME3...so yes, EA is very well aware of how serious this situation is.

In a way it *should* give us some hope, because the only viable option that seems left for Bioware is to provide a decent ending DLC we don't have to pay for. Not least because EA is going to be screaming at them to sort the mess out, and the company producing the Mass Effect film will likewise be threatening to put the project on hold for the forseeable future.

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Debi-Tage wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

I wonder though, what can they handle in 1 hour? at PAX they are only there for an hour, thats nothing.
3 or 4 questions by fans answered and they are through... i hope they wont stall with multiplayer DLC and what not, and focus on the ending.


Hah! Makes me wonder if they will have "fans" set up in the crowd to "call on" I can see it now:
100 people dressed as Marauder Shields, waving their hands furiously...
*Casey pretends to look around with great trepidation*
"you there!" he points as a seemingly normal fan steps forward...
"Hi...I just want to say, I love Mass Effect and think ME3 was the greatest game in the history of the world! Can you tell us how it feels to finish such an amazing franchise, and how can I get in on some MP bonus maps!?"
*all the devs chuckle in unison*
"Well...thank you, and that's a great question!"

:sick:


Will this be broadcasted??Man, i have to see this.