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[ld1449]

TamiBx wrote...

 I almost feel bad when I see that ME3 scores are so low and that there are so many bad reviews, especially because the game was amazing up until the last 10min.
But at the same time, I realize that they would not do anything about the ending if we were all nice and kept the scores high, but only complained about the ending. This is the only way they will listen: by losing money in the process.
It hurts me to do it, but I know it is necessary. 

It doesn't hurt me at all. Call me a vindictive ass but the more money Bioware looses on this the bigger the smile on my face gets.

Either A, they realize that this is an issue that they have to legitimately adress for the sake of their reputation and brand name.

Or B they don't and they take such a huge hit from this that they don't recover from this for the next five to ten years. Either way, it brings a smile to my face.

[Cybermortis]

OK, I need to head back out to the yard and bury the bodies before they start to smell too much.

OK, I mean before they are discovered.

OK, third attempt. Before the local kids start handing the parts into the local police.

What the? Damn it, I have the truthfulness-checker active...I thought it was the spell checker.

Good night,afternoon and if I don't catch you good morning.

[TamiBx]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Okay, technically BW never said they would detail anything at PAX...yes, they SHOULD for many reasons but that doesn't mean they will. What if all we get is "we will be addressing player concerns and will give details about what is going to be done before the months end" are you guys still going to fall out of line? Because you know it would make it easier for them if that's what you plan on doing? Just sayin...

I'm only going away if/when they say they are or are not changing/adding endings. 
It would not be smart to just be quiet at PAX though. A lot of fans, media attention...seriously, they could just say that they are(or not) going to change the ending. No detailes required. 

[silencemayday]

so i'm done with lurking and out as well.
no working game of thrones stream for me and i don't want to wait another hour to find it somewhere.

have a nice night/evening/morning or well, yeah..
http://2.asset.soup....4/1170_3eba.gif

Modifié par silencemayday, 02 avril 2012 - 01:12 .

[NeverQuiteAwake]

ld1449 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 I almost feel bad when I see that ME3 scores are so low and that there are so many bad reviews, especially because the game was amazing up until the last 10min.
But at the same time, I realize that they would not do anything about the ending if we were all nice and kept the scores high, but only complained about the ending. This is the only way they will listen: by losing money in the process.
It hurts me to do it, but I know it is necessary. 

It doesn't hurt me at all. Call me a vindictive ass but the more money Bioware looses on this the bigger the smile on my face gets.

Either A, they realize that this is an issue that they have to legitimately adress for the sake of their reputation and brand name.

Or B they don't and they take such a huge hit from this that they don't recover from this for the next five to ten years. Either way, it brings a smile to my face.

I feel like I'm watching a zeppelin crash and burn. It's strange and I just can't look away.

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 02 avril 2012 - 01:12 .

[Alamar2078]

TamiBx wrote...

 I almost feel bad when I see that ME3 scores are so low and that there are so many bad reviews, especially because the game was amazing up until the last 10min.
But at the same time, I realize that they would not do anything about the ending if we were all nice and kept the scores high, but only complained about the ending. This is the only way they will listen: by losing money in the process.
It hurts me to do it, but I know it is necessary. 

@OP:  Please don't consider this in any way an attack.  We're family here and not just because we're both "retakers" but fans of ME & BW.

I agree that ME3 had tons of powerful moments but the more time I have to contemplate the game the more and more flaws I start seeing:

-- Almost a total lack of divergence in story
-- Most ME2 only squad members got short changed and seemed like they were in "forced cameos" and not much else.  Tons of wasted potential ...  IIRC only Mordin & Legion played big roles ...
-- I can't say I like Jacob but what BW did to the Jacob romancers was harsh
-- The Tali reveal was rushed / sloppy when there was no good reason for it
-- There was a ton of auto-dialog
-- A fair number of powerful scenes were actually cut from the game but are still on the disks.
-- The whole "Cruicible" thing was mishandled from the get-go.

I'm sure there are other things too but the above was just off the top of my head.

************************************************************************

As long as you reviewed ME3 and gave it the score you TRUELY believe that it deserved then I think you are [morally & ethically] fine in my point of view.   It's only when folks "lie" in reviews and deceive their fellow consumers that I think a line is crossed.

YMMV.

[Computim]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 I almost feel bad when I see that ME3 scores are so low and that there are so many bad reviews, especially because the game was amazing up until the last 10min.
But at the same time, I realize that they would not do anything about the ending if we were all nice and kept the scores high, but only complained about the ending. This is the only way they will listen: by losing money in the process.
It hurts me to do it, but I know it is necessary. 

It doesn't hurt me at all. Call me a vindictive ass but the more money Bioware looses on this the bigger the smile on my face gets.

Either A, they realize that this is an issue that they have to legitimately adress for the sake of their reputation and brand name.

Or B they don't and they take such a huge hit from this that they don't recover from this for the next five to ten years. Either way, it brings a smile to my face.

I feel like I'm watching a zeppelin crash and burn. It's strange and I just can't look away.

Hindenburg?

[Major Swift]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Okay, technically BW never said they would detail anything at PAX...yes, they SHOULD for many reasons but that doesn't mean they will. What if all we get is "we will be addressing player concerns and will give details about what is going to be done before the months end" are you guys still going to fall out of line? Because you know it would make it easier for them if that's what you plan on doing? Just sayin...

I'll still be here if such occurs, I plan on being here till the end, good or bad

[RussianOrc]

Alamar2078 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 I almost feel bad when I see that ME3 scores are so low and that there are so many bad reviews, especially because the game was amazing up until the last 10min.
But at the same time, I realize that they would not do anything about the ending if we were all nice and kept the scores high, but only complained about the ending. This is the only way they will listen: by losing money in the process.
It hurts me to do it, but I know it is necessary. 

@OP:  Please don't consider this in any way an attack.  We're family here and not just because we're both "retakers" but fans of ME & BW.

I agree that ME3 had tons of powerful moments but the more time I have to contemplate the game the more and more flaws I start seeing:

-- Almost a total lack of divergence in story
-- Most ME2 only squad members got short changed and seemed like they were in "forced cameos" and not much else.  Tons of wasted potential ...  IIRC only Mordin & Legion played big roles ...
-- I can't say I like Jacob but what BW did to the Jacob romancers was harsh
-- The Tali reveal was rushed / sloppy when there was no good reason for it
-- There was a ton of auto-dialog
-- A fair number of powerful scenes were actually cut from the game but are still on the disks.
-- The whole "Cruicible" thing was mishandled from the get-go.

I'm sure there are other things too but the above was just off the top of my head.

************************************************************************

As long as you reviewed ME3 and gave it the score you TRUELY believe that it deserved then I think you are [morally & ethically] fine in my point of view.   It's only when folks "lie" in reviews and deceive their fellow consumers that I think a line is crossed.

YMMV.

Well, the crucible part can easily be fixed with an ending dlc.
Using the sugestion from someone here which i don't remember the name:
Making the crucible disable the reapers's shields, instead of destroying them(less space magic).

Modifié par RussianOrc, 02 avril 2012 - 01:22 .

[NeverQuiteAwake]

Computim wrote...

Hindenburg?

Yep, that's what it feels like.

[Major Swift]

@RussianOrc, while I'm sure I'm not the original origin of that idea with the crucible, it is the idea I used for my alternate ending rewrite
Edit: because I think it makes sense, leaves room for post game DLC if they want, and its similar to how the aliens in the movie Independence Day were defeated

Modifié par Major Swift, 02 avril 2012 - 01:38 .

[Dj14365]

Major Swift wrote...

@TamiBx, while I'm sure I'm not the original origin of that idea with the crucible, it is the idea I used for my alternate ending rewrite
Edit: because I think it makes sense, leaves room for post game DLC if they want, and its similar to how the aliens in the movie Independence Day were defeated

What if the crucible functioned as an massive emp temporarily disabling the reapers giving the possibility to destroy them.

[TekFanX]

I'm no expert at the business-strategy behind BioWare (neither do I want to be, seeing the current situation), but I know a bit of how its handled with engineers in R&D.
At least here in germany:

It's one of the first thing to get hammered in your brain, when you are a student.

You sign every bit of construction and research you do, with your name.
You have to document every tiny bit of calculation and by what standard(DIN-Norm) you worked.
So if something goes wrong, the chain will go down from superior to superior, until there's an error to be found in someones documentations.
Because, even if there are plans in movement to correct what has happened, the witch-hunt for finding the guy/gal who is responsible, is in movement too.

Luckily, in the gaming-industry there is normally a non-existent tendency of deaths, when something goes wrong.

[Alamar2078]

RussianOrc wrote...

Well, the crucible part can easily be fixed with an ending dlc.
Using the sugestion from someone here which i don't remember the name:
Making the crucible disable the reapers's shields, instead of destroying them(less space magic).

I wonder if you have a good memory or just picked someone else's idea that is similar to mine?  I was thinking for a long time that the Cruicible would [temporarily?] shut down the Mass Effect cores of the Reapers and possibly Relays.  Depending on how many science / cruicible war assets you have would make the Cruicible more or less effective in doing what's needed.

My complaint about the Cruicible isn't really something to fix at an ending.  It's that we found the plans out of nowhere [or some place we should have found 25 years ago] ... nobody knew what it was ... no small scale tests were run to try to figure out what it was ... etc.    I don't really think this is a flaw that could easily be fixed by an ending DLC.

Time will tell though ....

[Ihatebadgames]

I did like how in the courtroom scene all the uniforms got messed up and stuff.There are a lot of neat little things that you can catch and go Wow.However the reasoning for ending and the need ($$$)for a multiplayer that affects the single player game,I just don't get.

[KaiserinKai]

silencemayday wrote...
http://2.asset.soup....4/1170_3eba.gif

If only we could do that in game...

[jerobolod]

Hey guys! PAX can't come soon enough!
I found my exact, immediate reaction to the ME3 ending in a video. It's uncanny!

[Major Swift]

Dj14365 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

@TamiBx, while I'm sure I'm not the original origin of that idea with the crucible, it is the idea I used for my alternate ending rewrite
Edit: because I think it makes sense, leaves room for post game DLC if they want, and its similar to how the aliens in the movie Independence Day were defeated

What if the crucible functioned as an massive emp temporarily disabling the reapers giving the possibility to destroy them.

The way I have it in my rewrite, the crucible, instead of disabling the barriers temporarily, it disables them permanently, evening out the playing field/making things easier like with sovereign so fighting them conventionally is possible because even without barriers they'd still be pretty dangerous

[RussianOrc]

Alamar2078 wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Well, the crucible part can easily be fixed with an ending dlc.
Using the sugestion from someone here which i don't remember the name:
Making the crucible disable the reapers's shields, instead of destroying them(less space magic).

I wonder if you have a good memory or just picked someone else's idea that is similar to mine?  I was thinking for a long time that the Cruicible would [temporarily?] shut down the Mass Effect cores of the Reapers and possibly Relays.  Depending on how many science / cruicible war assets you have would make the Cruicible more or less effective in doing what's needed.

My complaint about the Cruicible isn't really something to fix at an ending.  It's that we found the plans out of nowhere [or some place we should have found 25 years ago] ... nobody knew what it was ... no small scale tests were run to try to figure out what it was ... etc.    I don't really think this is a flaw that could easily be fixed by an ending DLC.

Time will tell though ....

No xD, i have no idea if i heard this from you, i just know i heard it, but it's a great idea anyway.

[Alamar2078]

It seems MANY folks came up with similar ideas independently so no big deal either way

[G Kevin]

Computim wrote...

In our favour, they only took 18 months to produce the entire ME3 game.  They've got even MORE people on this project.. it sounds like most of the Bioware staff outside of the DA floor are working on this.. they didn't even do their usual April Fools joke which means they're busting their butts on it.  I may just be overselling what was (and hopefully will be) my favourite games company, but I'm honestly thinking they may pull a massive rabbit out of their hat and we'll all be like "THANK YOU BIOWARE.  WE WELCOME OUR NEW REAPER OVERLORDS "

I frackin' hope so. 

[Major Swift]

Just realized that that was supposed to be at RussianOrc lol *goes back to edit post* guess I read too fast last page

[Jere85]

65th division signing off, 3.30am allready, i should get decent hours of sleep next weekend... but hey, i might just get some, if PAX doesnt dissapoint

[TamiBx]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

Computim wrote...

Hindenburg?

Yep, that's what it feels like.

*cough cough* https://fbcdn-sphoto...484803996_n.jpg

[RussianOrc]

I don't think it would be that costly to change the ending or continue it based on the indocrination theory.
It would only take a 5 minutes CGI of the allied forces(not the one on WW2 xD) taking down the reapers, some dialog lines from the standard VAs and an epilogue(and maybe a boss fight).
No level design and not that much writting.

Modifié par RussianOrc, 02 avril 2012 - 01:41 .