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DifferentD17 wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Don't be. There are none. People are in hysterics for no reason other than they want to be.
Yeah, you really know a lot it seems. Are you God?
/sarcasm
No she?he is not. For I know who is god.
Capeo wrote...
From what Xio said FTL flight is not trashed. Only the relays. Though, really who cares, it would take decades to hundreds of years to get anywhere. Even at 10 times the speed of light it would take ten to twelve thousand years to cross the galaxy.
blueruin wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Don't be. There are none. People are in hysterics for no reason other than they want to be.
Yeah, you really know a lot it seems. Are you God?
/sarcasm
A bit defensive, aren't you?
Unit-Alpha wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Don't be. There are none. People are in hysterics for no reason other than they want to be.
Yeah, you really know a lot it seems. Are you God?
/sarcasm
A bit defensive, aren't you?
If by defensive, you mean enjoying myself, why yes, I am. Thanks for asking!
Seriously, I have heard every personal possible attack and attacks on my ideas. I'm actually really enjoying this now.
humes spork wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
It's easy as hell to make a bleak ending. It's nearly impossible to make a good one that is happy. Bioware's writers have nowhere near the skill required.
For something like this? It's not that hard.
Depending on Shepard's choices and actions, he either rallies the Citadel races to unify against the Reaper threat or finds help from other sources that, while less reputable are no less capable in the end.
Paragon Shepard gets the Citadel fleet. Renegade Shepard gets the bird from the Citadel races, and wheels and deals to bring the krogan in (with the promise of a genophage cure, whether Shep's being truthful about it or not), the quarians or the geth (choice there, if Legion was loyal), has to bargain with the batarians for aid (something like a Molotov treaty where the batarians invade Citadel space and the humans look the other way or give them secret aid), and is even forced to give the yahg technology to help fight even though that'll definitely have dire consequences in the long term. If the rachni got saved, they join either way.
Shep leads the Citadel, or his ragtag baddy, fleet back through the Charon relay. Depending on who's there and what decisions are made, they win or lose. If Shep's forced to bring in the quarians, the migrant fleet is wiped out and the quarians end up going extinct for example. If Shep's forced to lie about the genophage cure, the krogan rebellions end up starting again and they're wiped out; if Shep has the genophage cure, the krogan get it and eventually restart the krogan rebellions and win. Other stuff like that. In the end, for a renegade Shepard the political status quo reigns on a galactic scale but a far greater political storm rumbles on the horizon as humanity and the "friends" it made during the Reaper war never forget how the Council abandoned them during their darkest hour and begin laying plans to wipe the Council and the races it represents from the galaxy.
Oh, the paragons don't get off scot free either. Depending on choices made, the Citadel fleet may end up wiped out. Maybe the batarians invade and take over a huge portion of Citadel space. Or the volus stage an economic coup against the turians. Perhaps even the krogan seize the opportunity against the weakened salarians and force them to cure the genophage anyway, but have matured since the rebellions and join the galactic community in peace, policing their own population growth where they did not before thanks to Wrex's legacy. In the end, the Council as it was known is completely broken down and replaced by a parliamentary system giving all races a stake and voice in galactic politics.
But for a brief, shining moment races from all walks, philosophies, creeds, biologies, and cultures united to defeat the greatest threat the galaxy has ever known. The galaxy takes note and never forgets that, or the sacrifices made. Whether that leads to a nobler, more united galactic community that now understands and helps each other more intimately than never before, or a horrific galaxy-wide civil war that ends only in genocide, is up to Shepard. But either way, humanity is after a half-century understood and has its definitive place among the stars where before it had not even after being given a seat on an antiquated and unresponsive Council.
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Modifié par kingsims, 02 mars 2012 - 03:42 .
blueruin wrote...
Uh huh.
Unit-Alpha wrote...
humes spork wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
It's easy as hell to make a bleak ending. It's nearly impossible to make a good one that is happy. Bioware's writers have nowhere near the skill required.
For something like this? It's not that hard.
Depending on Shepard's choices and actions, he either rallies the Citadel races to unify against the Reaper threat or finds help from other sources that, while less reputable are no less capable in the end.
Paragon Shepard gets the Citadel fleet. Renegade Shepard gets the bird from the Citadel races, and wheels and deals to bring the krogan in (with the promise of a genophage cure, whether Shep's being truthful about it or not), the quarians or the geth (choice there, if Legion was loyal), has to bargain with the batarians for aid (something like a Molotov treaty where the batarians invade Citadel space and the humans look the other way or give them secret aid), and is even forced to give the yahg technology to help fight even though that'll definitely have dire consequences in the long term. If the rachni got saved, they join either way.
Shep leads the Citadel, or his ragtag baddy, fleet back through the Charon relay. Depending on who's there and what decisions are made, they win or lose. If Shep's forced to bring in the quarians, the migrant fleet is wiped out and the quarians end up going extinct for example. If Shep's forced to lie about the genophage cure, the krogan rebellions end up starting again and they're wiped out; if Shep has the genophage cure, the krogan get it and eventually restart the krogan rebellions and win. Other stuff like that. In the end, for a renegade Shepard the political status quo reigns on a galactic scale but a far greater political storm rumbles on the horizon as humanity and the "friends" it made during the Reaper war never forget how the Council abandoned them during their darkest hour and begin laying plans to wipe the Council and the races it represents from the galaxy.
Oh, the paragons don't get off scot free either. Depending on choices made, the Citadel fleet may end up wiped out. Maybe the batarians invade and take over a huge portion of Citadel space. Or the volus stage an economic coup against the turians. Perhaps even the krogan seize the opportunity against the weakened salarians and force them to cure the genophage anyway, but have matured since the rebellions and join the galactic community in peace, policing their own population growth where they did not before thanks to Wrex's legacy. In the end, the Council as it was known is completely broken down and replaced by a parliamentary system giving all races a stake and voice in galactic politics.
But for a brief, shining moment races from all walks, philosophies, creeds, biologies, and cultures united to defeat the greatest threat the galaxy has ever known. The galaxy takes note and never forgets that, or the sacrifices made. Whether that leads to a nobler, more united galactic community that now understands and helps each other more intimately than never before, or a horrific galaxy-wide civil war that ends only in genocide, is up to Shepard. But either way, humanity is after a half-century understood and has its definitive place among the stars where before it had not even after being given a seat on an antiquated and unresponsive Council.
Well, I guess this means you are a better writer than Bioware's entire team. Congratz!
Unit-Alpha wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
blueruin wrote...
Don't be. There are none. People are in hysterics for no reason other than they want to be.
Yeah, you really know a lot it seems. Are you God?
/sarcasm
No she?he is not. For I know who is god.
My mistake; please don't smite me!
Rdubs wrote...
This comes across as a last-minute desparate attempt to throw a red herring. Anyone believe this right now?
http://www.strategyi...uests-neglected
Edit: Here's Hudson: "You can have some kind of ending and victory, but it’ll be a lot more brutal and minimal relative to if you do a lot of stuff. If you really build a lot of stuff and bring people to your side and rally the entire galaxy around you, and you come into the end game with that, then you’ll get an amazing, very definitive ending."
DifferentD17 wrote...
I'm not god, god is the little boy in the begining of ME3.
Rdubs wrote...
This comes across as a last-minute desparate attempt to throw a red herring. Anyone believe this right now?
http://www.strategyi...uests-neglected
Edit: Here's Hudson: "You can have some kind of ending and victory, but it’ll be a lot more brutal and minimal relative to if you do a lot of stuff. If you really build a lot of stuff and bring people to your side and rally the entire galaxy around you, and you come into the end game with that, then you’ll get an amazing, very definitive ending."
DifferentD17 wrote...
I'm not god, god is the little boy in the begining of ME3.
Rdubs wrote...
This comes across as a last-minute desparate attempt to throw a red herring. Anyone believe this right now?
http://www.strategyi...uests-neglected
Edit: Here's Hudson: "You can have some kind of ending and victory, but it’ll be a lot more brutal and minimal relative to if you do a lot of stuff. If you really build a lot of stuff and bring people to your side and rally the entire galaxy around you, and you come into the end game with that, then you’ll get an amazing, very definitive ending."
humes spork wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
It's easy as hell to make a bleak ending. It's nearly impossible to make a good one that is happy. Bioware's writers have nowhere near the skill required.
For something like this? It's not that hard.
*snip*
He's right though, red is alittle more brutal on the eyes especially when playing in HD.ToastPants wrote...
Rdubs wrote...
This comes across as a last-minute desparate attempt to throw a red herring. Anyone believe this right now?
http://www.strategyi...uests-neglected
Edit: Here's Hudson: "You can have some kind of ending and victory, but it’ll be a lot more brutal and minimal relative to if you do a lot of stuff. If you really build a lot of stuff and bring people to your side and rally the entire galaxy around you, and you come into the end game with that, then you’ll get an amazing, very definitive ending."
Unfortunately, that article is from last year.
Unit-Alpha wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
I'm not god, god is the little boy in the begining of ME3.
Oh... thank Him I was nice to Him.
WvStolzing wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
I'm not god, god is the little boy in the begining of ME3.
boo! heresy.
Everyone knows its space-Jesus.
DifferentD17 wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
I'm not god, god is the little boy in the begining of ME3.
Oh... thank Him I was nice to Him.
but were you nice enough?
ToastPants wrote...
Rdubs wrote...
This comes across as a last-minute desparate attempt to throw a red herring. Anyone believe this right now?
http://www.strategyi...uests-neglected
Edit: Here's Hudson: "You can have some kind of ending and victory, but it’ll be a lot more brutal and minimal relative to if you do a lot of stuff. If you really build a lot of stuff and bring people to your side and rally the entire galaxy around you, and you come into the end game with that, then you’ll get an amazing, very definitive ending."
Unfortunately, that article is from last year.
Unit-Alpha wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Unit-Alpha wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
I'm not god, god is the little boy in the begining of ME3.
Oh... thank Him I was nice to Him.
but were you nice enough?
I only had two options! It's not my fault!
Armass81 wrote...
Capeo wrote...
From what Xio said FTL flight is not trashed. Only the relays. Though, really who cares, it would take decades to hundreds of years to get anywhere. Even at 10 times the speed of light it would take ten to twelve thousand years to cross the galaxy.
Standard FTL in ME universe is over 3600 times the speed of light. It takes 27 years to cross the galaxy with that speed if you have the fuel.
Modifié par Capeo, 02 mars 2012 - 03:56 .
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