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#68426
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You know what I like about Square Enix / Eidos Montreal?
When people told them they disliked the boss fights and the endings in DX3, they outright apologized, and in the dlc they even put in a boss fight that was altered to please the players.

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You know, Sovereign was right in the first game. Their reasons for destroying us is far more complex than our tiny minds can comprehend, because synthetics built by a star baby to wipe us out so we don't build synthetics that will wipe us out is beyond my comprehension.

To the average person, that sounds like mindless babbling gibberish.

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Ham Solo wrote...

You know what I like about Square Enix / Eidos Montreal?
When people told them they disliked the boss fights and the endings in DX3, they outright apologized, and in the dlc they even put in a boss fight that was altered to please the players.

  


^  Exactly.

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Laterali wrote...

You know, Sovereign was right in the first game. Their reasons for destroying us is far more complex than our tiny minds can comprehend, because synthetics built by a star baby to wipe us out so we don't build synthetics that will wipe us out is beyond my comprehension.

To the average person, that sounds like mindless babbling gibberish.


you should watch this :)



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nitefyre410 wrote...
So she apologizies for  1 post while there where weeks  and days worth of articles written  doing the same thing. 

I'll give her points for one thing, she is in the public eye, to come out and apologize like that must have taken some steel, IGN would have had to hold a gun to my head to get me to do that.

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Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Azzclown wrote...

Best endings!

BSN proudly continues to prove humour is subjective.


Indeed.

Turned this off after 1 minute in... i dont call this humour at all.

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Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.


How much were you paid to say that now?

#68434
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Computim wrote...

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so jessica chobot called us whiney entiled gamers and then removes the post and then apologiezes??? what exactly did she say in the apology?


Doesn't matter.  She apologized.  It's not like some of us haven't said stuff in the heat of the moment and withdrew it.  I, for one, accept the apology and hold no ill will towards her, she was excellent in the game, and no one here hates her.

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I don't know the whole story but, if people were attacking her it would be a natural response. Just remember she was just doing her job.  Nothing to do with how the game turned out. That's just my opinion on the matter.

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Neko Hibiki wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.


How much were you paid to say that now?


Aw come on. I find it refreshing to see someone calmly explain what they liked about the endings without going on the offensive and not using the words "entitled", "whiners" or "children" once. :)

Modifié par Syrin_, 03 avril 2012 - 12:01 .


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Cybermortis wrote...

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Please no....not another plot hole, I seriously can't take any more....

My dear fellow, It's not "another" plot hole, that would signify more than one, the ending is one huge plot hole given my thoughts, somebody slammed a huge asteroid into it.


There are roads in New York that have fewer holes than the plot of ME3...which is really saying something.


After these comments, I just had to make this~

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DJBare wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
So she apologizies for  1 post while there where weeks  and days worth of articles written  doing the same thing. 

I'll give her points for one thing, she is in the public eye, to come out and apologize like that must have taken some steel, IGN would have had to hold a gun to my head to get me to do that.

 

Why her, why march her out  to apologize .. It feels she is apologizing to use on IGN behalf and Colin  behalf instead of him being man enough to come out and do it himself for being completely out of line. 

Thats just feeling I get and it makes me  dislike IGN even more. 

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Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.


We all support Bioware.  Just not the ending :)

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TamiBx wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...
Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.

We all support Bioware.  Just not the ending :)

QFT.

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Laterali

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Neko Hibiki wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.


How much were you paid to say that now?




Let's not start that foolishness.

My opinion on leaving everything open to the individual's interpretation, is that this;

That would be fine, were this not the conclusion of a trilogy. Leaving things open to intrepretaion on the second game is fine, but when you have a clear goal of killing the Reapers, and the last three games have lead you to this, they have an obligation to tie up the loose ends. They made this a character driven game, it shouldn't be left to us to say what happened to our crewmembers when a story is completed, that is not our responsibility.

They decided to make choices "matter" along all three games, it is their responsibility to show us how our choices affected the universe at the conclusion of the trilogy, not leave it to specualtion.

If they are planning on making ME4, and wanted a way to continue it, that's one thing, but this being a trilogy has been a fact for 5 years, we don't need specualtion at the end of a story, we need conclusion, and closure, and a climax that stays within the realm of logical believability with the rest of the series.

This ending did none of those things.

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Computim wrote...

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so jessica chobot called us whiney entiled gamers and then removes the post and then apologiezes??? what exactly did she say in the apology?


Doesn't matter.  She apologized.  It's not like some of us haven't said stuff in the heat of the moment and withdrew it.  I, for one, accept the apology and hold no ill will towards her, she was excellent in the game, and no one here hates her.

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i accepted it to once i got a link to the apology....i was just asking as to what she basically said 

i enjoyed her role in the game actually she did a decent job at it to :)

Modifié par FinalEndeavor, 03 avril 2012 - 12:06 .


#68442
KaiserinKai

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Syrin_ wrote...

Neko Hibiki wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.


How much were you paid to say that now?


Aw come on. I find it refreshing to see someone calmly explain what they liked about the endings without going on the offensive and not using the words "entitled", "whiners" or "children" once. :)

Agreed. Though I believe that it was ambiguous in all the WRONG ways.

For instance, they should have left your crew's fate ambiguous rather than have them teleport to the Normandy and run away for some unexplained reason.

My other responce to this is that we didn't pay $60+ to imagine what happens.

But hey, as long as CStGW respects that I hate the endings, I'll respect that he/she likes them.

#68443
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Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.


Don't misunderstand me I love open ended medias when they are done well, but I feel that if you are going to do an open end you need to give your audience enough information to extrapolate conclusions from i'll use the Harry Potter books (of which I am a MASSIVE fan). J.K. Rowling gave us an end and then provided an epilouge this gives the audience a framework to work with in regards to personal ideas. In our own minds we can think what happend to the characters in time period X between the end and epilouge based on the information from the epilouge.

I am glad that you enjoyed the ending and I hope to continue to enjoy them through replay and personal expansion of the Mass Effect universe.

Not sure if this made sense but it 1 in the moring here so be nice.

Big shout to the Harry Potter and Bioware fans and Hold the Line 

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We all support Bioware.  Just not the ending :)



This.


Edit: More agreement with Fallenfromthesky's post. Open endings can be great, I just think it doesn't work within the narrative framework and genre that ME sets up for itself.

Modifié par Syrin_, 03 avril 2012 - 12:10 .


#68445
KaiserinKai

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DJBare wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...
Mass Effect is my favourite game series of all time, I've loved it since 2007. And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.

We all support Bioware.  Just not the ending :)

QFT.


+1

Couldn't say it better myself~

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TamiBx wrote...

We all support Bioware.  Just not the ending :)


So sayeth the scribe of the line.  So shall it be written.  So shall it become history.

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DJBare wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
So she apologizies for  1 post while there where weeks  and days worth of articles written  doing the same thing. 

I'll give her points for one thing, she is in the public eye, to come out and apologize like that must have taken some steel, IGN would have had to hold a gun to my head to get me to do that.


Yes Mr Bond, but you would have managed to slip in codewords and phrases that would tell your American counterpart where you were being held. Then a crack team of Retakers would have donned their (cardboard) N7 armour. loaded their Avenger squirt guns and absailed into the secret lair.

You would have broken free from your restraints, either using the gadget Q gave you the day before you were captured*, or by seducing the most attractive female IGN staff member present - probably the same woman who distracted you long enough to be captured in the first place. You would have killed every guard within 20 yards, had a fight with the biggest and dummest security guard, and then chased the CEO of IGN to his office. There you would have killed him, probably with another of Q's gadget's, in a manner that allowed you to fire off a quick 'quip' - for example by pushing him through the window with a computer and saying 'He crashed'.

Then you'd have vanished in the CEO's car for a week with the woman, before returning to England for a few games of golf.

(*As a rule, if Q gives you a new gadget assume you'll need it to avoid death within the next week).

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oh and i also want to know what happened with conrad and jenna :D

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Cybermortis wrote...

DJBare wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
So she apologizies for  1 post while there where weeks  and days worth of articles written  doing the same thing. 

I'll give her points for one thing, she is in the public eye, to come out and apologize like that must have taken some steel, IGN would have had to hold a gun to my head to get me to do that.


Yes Mr Bond, but you would have managed to slip in codewords and phrases that would tell your American counterpart where you were being held. Then a crack team of Retakers would have donned their (cardboard) N7 armour. loaded their Avenger squirt guns and absailed into the secret lair.

You would have broken free from your restraints, either using the gadget Q gave you the day before you were captured*, or by seducing the most attractive female IGN staff member present - probably the same woman who distracted you long enough to be captured in the first place. You would have killed every guard within 20 yards, had a fight with the biggest and dummest security guard, and then chased the CEO of IGN to his office. There you would have killed him, probably with another of Q's gadget's, in a manner that allowed you to fire off a quick 'quip' - for example by pushing him through the window with a computer and saying 'He crashed'.

Then you'd have vanished in the CEO's car for a week with the woman, before returning to England for a few games of golf.

(*As a rule, if Q gives you a new gadget assume you'll need it to avoid death within the next week).


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Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...
And I loved the endings. It left everything open to interpretation, so that you, the player, were able to use your own imagination to fill in the blanks. Some people say it wasn't a real choice. On the contrary, I thought it was the most elegant decision the series offered. Because all of it was limited only to the confines of your own mind. Call me a loyalist, but I support Bioware.

Glad you enjoyed it.  You certainly are entitled to your opinion.  Many of us disagree with you, but that doesn't necessarily mean we don't support BioWare.  Voicing criticism over something doesn't mean we didn't immensely enjoy other parts of the game or that we don't respect the company.