http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png
Seems pretty much legit to me.
So we can't get the ending we want after all?
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#68952
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:12
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Ok, before I go to bed, just wanted to post a rather long winded message, so here goes.
First up, to address the new Mass Effect games that will be following ME3. Mass Effect 3 is set to be the last ME game based on the events of this cycle. I would imagine that if we "loaded" a save from ME3, either the start would be that they had to rebuild the Relays or keep using the current ones (if DLC adds the ability to save them). That is not much of a leap, and since the next series should be outside of Shepard's lifetime, the rest of the current ME series should have no effect on the next.
Now, beyond the issue of canon in this game, we need to stress the fact that we are not asking for BioWare to change Mass Effect in any way. Simply to add to it. People complaining that adding more endings will mean they will have to play it again to experience them, well, that is kinda the point of a game...to play it through several times and find out more about it each time you do. However, adding more to the game wont destroy what is there, it wont change ME3 from what it currently is, it will just make it the perfect end to a perfect series for more than those who love it now. It wont take anything from either side, but rather, it will give to us all.
Furthermore, adding more choices to the Mass Effect ending actually enables more choices in terms of DLC both in this series and the next. Also, adding extra endings means that sales won't decline after all this, but rather stay constant or possibly increase. From a business standpoint, it makes sense to add more to the game.
Now finally, if they do charge for additional endings, I would buy it. Because I believe the story, as "art" deserves those endings. And $10 or whatever seems like an ok price to finish this masterpiece off. Also, BioWare staff would have put a lot of effort and work into it, so I feel they deserve something for the effort they put in to accommodate us.
And remember, there is still many other companies out there making good RPGs. If BioWare falls on its face now, it will follow all the other companies that EA purchases. So look for an alternative, because it is better to enjoy yourself playing a game that has what you are looking for, then spend too long stressing over a game (and a company) that obviously don't want us.
I hope that all made sense, I'm too tired to proof read it lol.
Enjoy yourselves guys.
I'm off to bed xD
First up, to address the new Mass Effect games that will be following ME3. Mass Effect 3 is set to be the last ME game based on the events of this cycle. I would imagine that if we "loaded" a save from ME3, either the start would be that they had to rebuild the Relays or keep using the current ones (if DLC adds the ability to save them). That is not much of a leap, and since the next series should be outside of Shepard's lifetime, the rest of the current ME series should have no effect on the next.
Now, beyond the issue of canon in this game, we need to stress the fact that we are not asking for BioWare to change Mass Effect in any way. Simply to add to it. People complaining that adding more endings will mean they will have to play it again to experience them, well, that is kinda the point of a game...to play it through several times and find out more about it each time you do. However, adding more to the game wont destroy what is there, it wont change ME3 from what it currently is, it will just make it the perfect end to a perfect series for more than those who love it now. It wont take anything from either side, but rather, it will give to us all.
Furthermore, adding more choices to the Mass Effect ending actually enables more choices in terms of DLC both in this series and the next. Also, adding extra endings means that sales won't decline after all this, but rather stay constant or possibly increase. From a business standpoint, it makes sense to add more to the game.
Now finally, if they do charge for additional endings, I would buy it. Because I believe the story, as "art" deserves those endings. And $10 or whatever seems like an ok price to finish this masterpiece off. Also, BioWare staff would have put a lot of effort and work into it, so I feel they deserve something for the effort they put in to accommodate us.
And remember, there is still many other companies out there making good RPGs. If BioWare falls on its face now, it will follow all the other companies that EA purchases. So look for an alternative, because it is better to enjoy yourself playing a game that has what you are looking for, then spend too long stressing over a game (and a company) that obviously don't want us.
I hope that all made sense, I'm too tired to proof read it lol.
Enjoy yourselves guys.
I'm off to bed xD
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#68953
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:14
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@Nharia, oh and the first butterfly effect movie=pulled off a depressing ending while still giving hope
#68954
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:14
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Major Swift wrote...
thats awesome lol, i want oneKaiserinKai wrote...
I got to build a Trebuchet for a college class. It counted as history because, you know, Mediveal weaponry...
Yes building it was the class, grades were on teamwork, effort, particpation, etc.
...I got an A-
Also, yes it was fullsized.... twas awesome~
I just uploaded some pictures to Photobucket of it, have a look~
Picture 1
Picture 1 with me circled
Picture 2
Picture 3
Picture 4
Picture 5
Picture 6
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#68955
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:17
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Major Swift wrote...
yea, the view from Little Round Top was breathtaking, the sun was setting when i got up there, then i was at the copse of trees where Armistead fell when it was really starting to get dark out, there were fire flys literally everywhere just lifting up from the ground, disappearing and then repeating and hmmmmNharia1 wrote...
Major Swift wrote...
that is awesome, the weapons for birthday presents lol, and im not sure, Gladiator is always a good one to rewatch as ive done, they did what bioware didnt with it, pulled off a bittersweet ending, ummmmm theres Troy(while not really romans, its still good) ill let you know if i think of others, and now i have to go watch braveheart again haha:lol:
edit: and yes i agree, it was like seeing the real Robert E. Lee the way he pulled it off (I've actually been to Gettsyburg before and have seen all the things there, just a random sidenote lol)
Very true, it was a really touching ending... Hm I don't have Troy, but Netflix might, if not, well there's the interwebs for that. I've also been to Gettysburg... One of the most moving moments in my life... I've never felt the presence of history more than when I was standing on Little Round Top, looking down the hill... I swear that night I had dreams about the fighting that took place... Quick lets start comparing the endings of movies to the end of ME3~!
Gladiator= Pulled off the Bittersweet ending
Braveheart= Epic end to a man who had become more than a man
Return of the King= pulled off the good ending despite impossible odds!
Why does that sound so romantic, despite the weight of what happened... >.< If only it wasn't a National park, and was just some random spot in the woods or something, I would so take my girl and... yeah I think I'll just stop there..
Black Hawk Down= Awesome way to end a movie, but it seriously lends itself to a sequel which will never happen since its actually based on the thruth for the most part. Again with beating the impossible odds.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:20
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Major Swift wrote...
@Nharia, oh and the first butterfly effect movie=pulled off a depressing ending while still giving hope
I've never seen it actually, I've heard its good though
the First Scorpion King= Dude... It got the Rock in it, how could it not be an awesome ending~!
#68957
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:24
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Silasqtx wrote...
http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png
Seems pretty much legit to me.
I think I'm missing the supposed significance of this.
#68958
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:25
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The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor= pulled off using magic(or did it, im still confused on that one lol) and yea its a good movie IMONharia1 wrote...
Major Swift wrote...
@Nharia, oh and the first butterfly effect movie=pulled off a depressing ending while still giving hope
I've never seen it actually, I've heard its good though
the First Scorpion King= Dude... It got the Rock in it, how could it not be an awesome ending~!
I actually played this same type of "game" with my brother one night on Facebook lol(my brother who jumped into ME with ME3) he said something that made me chuckle," I want to know why Deus Ex is making a cameo in my game."
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#68959
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:28
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g_bassi13 wrote...
Silasqtx wrote...
http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png
Seems pretty much legit to me.
I think I'm missing the supposed significance of this.
The file with the jungle planet's textures the Normandi crashes is named "dream" something... but take it with a grain of salt! On 4chan another screenshot was shown in which the little boy Shep dreams about was called "Harbinger" ... and of course it was a fake (file names can easily be renamed
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#68960
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:31
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g_bassi13 wrote...
Silasqtx wrote...
http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png
Seems pretty much legit to me.
I think I'm missing the supposed significance of this.
People really want to believe the indoctrination theory. That is, they want this whole thing to be an elaborate hoax with Bioware releasing the "real" endings soon.
I remain incredibly skeptical.
#68961
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:31
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Sorry for pulling this up, was in a college lecture.
However, you fail to see one thing: DLC involves work. Work means people spending time making new cutscenes, environments, getting the voice-actors back to record lines. This all costs money and BioWare is a BUSINESS. If a decision results in a net loss for them, they will not follow through with that decision. Free ending DLC is one of those decisions. My post was a 2 phase idea where BioWare answered our requests to uphold they're pre-release promises while minimalizing that net loss - maybe even making it a net gain.
Phase One: Make and release a story DLC (I'll use Retake Omega as an example for simplicity's sake) with the ending's fix for $$$. This money would cover the costs it took to make this DLC (including the ending fix) and maybe even result in a profit for BioWare, showing that catering to fans is beneficial. Because, really, if they released Retake Omega before fixing the endings how many of you would buy it?
Phase Two: Release a version of Retake Omega without the ending's fix for those who like the endings as is and want Retake Omega. At the same time, release a FREE ending fix DLC.
You got hung up on Phase One when what you want was in Phase Two. As for your concerns: Concern 1 is invalidated because a free ending fix is released in Phase Two. Concern 2 is also taken care of by the point against Concern 1 and by this very movement. Even if they did plan it this way, our cries of rage have shown BioWare it was a really. stupid. idea.
Kazaru wrote...
LethesDeep wrote...
Why not? If BioWare was smart they would bundle "new ending DLC" with a paid story DLC. That would cover production costs for remaking the endings. Then release just the ending content as free DLC and release a version of the paid story DLC without the ending content. BioWare minimalizes financial costs and the fans (ALL the fans) get what they were promised. Everyone wins.
I don't see its that way. Everything else than a 100% free ending DLC is a lost for us, because of the 2 posibilities.
1. BW really think the ending is thier "Master Piece" and ME3 must end this way.
Which mean they can advertise anything as long as there is an DLC which "fix" the problem. For example. Believe somebody advertise a hamburger with two slices of meat. Now you buy the hamburger, but there is only one slice not two. You start to complain about it and the Owner said: "Ok Ok, you can have the second slice but only when you buy bacon with it". Thats not a win/win situation even there is bacon involved.
2. BW planed this all a long.
What is really not good. To make a game with "no" or a "bad" ending, and only make it proper when its demanded, or even worse to have the ending remove it only to sell more DLCs. That can't be the way, we bought a full game so we deserve a full game, not a half game and the rest of it on deman. It also can lead to games where is no beginning or ending, only when you buy it via DLC.
Thats what i think about it.
Only a free DLC is a real victory, and showes us that BW care about there fanbase.
However, you fail to see one thing: DLC involves work. Work means people spending time making new cutscenes, environments, getting the voice-actors back to record lines. This all costs money and BioWare is a BUSINESS. If a decision results in a net loss for them, they will not follow through with that decision. Free ending DLC is one of those decisions. My post was a 2 phase idea where BioWare answered our requests to uphold they're pre-release promises while minimalizing that net loss - maybe even making it a net gain.
Phase One: Make and release a story DLC (I'll use Retake Omega as an example for simplicity's sake) with the ending's fix for $$$. This money would cover the costs it took to make this DLC (including the ending fix) and maybe even result in a profit for BioWare, showing that catering to fans is beneficial. Because, really, if they released Retake Omega before fixing the endings how many of you would buy it?
Phase Two: Release a version of Retake Omega without the ending's fix for those who like the endings as is and want Retake Omega. At the same time, release a FREE ending fix DLC.
You got hung up on Phase One when what you want was in Phase Two. As for your concerns: Concern 1 is invalidated because a free ending fix is released in Phase Two. Concern 2 is also taken care of by the point against Concern 1 and by this very movement. Even if they did plan it this way, our cries of rage have shown BioWare it was a really. stupid. idea.
#68962
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:34
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Deschi wrote...
g_bassi13 wrote...
Silasqtx wrote...
http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png
Seems pretty much legit to me.
I think I'm missing the supposed significance of this.
The file with the jungle planet's textures the Normandi crashes is named "dream" something... but take it with a grain of salt! On 4chan another screenshot was shown in which the little boy Shep dreams about was called "Harbinger" ... and of course it was a fake (file names can easily be renamed
Ah, thanks. I was wondering what it meant by "dream". Given the context, I agree it's hard to believe they would label a texture file so blantantly.
Also, that whole Harbinger one I didn't believe for a second, lol.
#68963
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:36
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TamiBx wrote...
Ohpus wrote...
TamiBX wrote upon an evening clear:
...You guys retire at 57?!
I'm moving to Canada
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Sure. We're all warm and fuzzy too. But that's usually during hockey season.
haha, this was so many pages ago XD
I don't understand hockey at all. Never seen a game(?) either. But it's not unusual; don't understand baseball or football either.
I get Quidditch lol
Yeah well, when it comes to the weekend I do thing IRL like walking around outside and cleaning the house or playing other video games. The thread jumps 50-100 pages. I read 5 pages, realize I won't catch up in the time available, in then just jump ahead to 5-10 before the end.
Speaking of Qidditch. Do the British riot at those games too? What would a "Quidditch hooligan" even look like?
#68964
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:49
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I had no internet for the past 3 hours and I thought I was going to die...I needed my fix. Stupid dorm and its internet... 
Ok, I'm back now~
Anything interesting going on?
Ok, I'm back now~
Anything interesting going on?
#68965
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:54
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Not really, few twitter posts that just bring up more "speculations", the page before this one basically sums up everything that's happened so far, just having some fun while waiting for PAX to happenTamiBx wrote...
I had no internet for the past 3 hours and I thought I was going to die...I needed my fix. Stupid dorm and its internet...
Ok, I'm back now~
Anything interesting going on?
#68966
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:56
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Troop!, it has come to my attention about murmurs in the line, murmurs of discontent and even some troops pulling back saying things like "You should forget EA/Bioware and move on";
I'd like to remind the troops this is not just about the ending to ME3 or just about EA/Bioware, this is about you as the customer getting the product that was advertised.
For too long gaming companies have hidden behind things such as artistic integrity, time constraints, resources, I for one am willing to grant them those things, but I'm not willing to accept a subpar product using those as an excuse, if you cannot deliver then do not advertise that you can.
So remember troop, this not just about our dissatisfaction of the ending, this is a message to all gaming companies to deliver what they advertise, no more bullsh*t!
Find below some important links you may want to follow.
Kotaku Power 40
***Attention*** Mass Effect Survey Scam
Alternative forum(if required) courtesy of Cybermortis
Polls
Since we're getting paid DLC, is it enough for Bioware to just "clarify"?
Poll About Your reaction on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?
Provide Bioware with your feedback
Leave your feedback on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement from 21st March 2012
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread
Bioware's Promises pre-game release and their PR response analysed
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***
Retake Mass Effect Movement Resources
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics
Retake Mass Effect Movement
Audio Interview with the Organizer of RetakeME3
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
PAX East Platoon
Adamantium93, So about those "Insightful' and "Philosophical" endings...
HoldTheLine, A website who's main asset is a forum which has gone to great length to unify the community.
Retakemasseffect.org, This is a resource site with fun things like daily initiatives (like an N7 avatar generator) to get people involved.
Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
@RetakeME3
Latest News
Giant Bomb, Sticking the Landing
Forbes, The Real Precedent Being Set By Mass Effect 3 Protests
Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'
Killer Kittens from Mars, Charity sees the need, not the cause - German proverb
International Business Times, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: Disappointed Fans Send Bioware 402 Cupcakes In Protest
California Literary Review, Reaping the Harvest of Poor Choices
Fprbes, Mass Effect 3 Protesters Sending Cupcakes to Bioware
Forbes, Why Most Websites Have to Make Nice to the Industry
Forbes, New Ending Setting Precedence?
Forbes, Commander Shepard Actor Mark Meer Weighs In On Mass Effect 3 Ending And DLC
Forbes on indoctrination theory
Forbes reports on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement
Forbes, Why Child's Play Stopped Taking Donations From Retake Mass Effect
Forbes, Further Thoughts on Mass Effect 3's Ending and Future DLC
Forbes, Mass Effect 3 And Corporate Influence Over Commercial Art
CVG, Mass Effect 3: 86% think BioWare blew the ending
BBC news technology section
Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
GotGame, The
customer is always right.
NY Daily News about Retake Mass Effect
The Telegraph in UK reporting about our movement
The wall street journal, Why the Ending of Mass Effect 3 Started a Furor
IBT, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: ‘The New Yorker’ Weighs In On Fan Protests
Videos
Jim Sterling gets it!
he Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Retake Mass Effect - A Character Tribute
I Am the Very Model of a Mass Effect Enthusiast (SPOILERS)
Global EDMONTON, Cupcake protest against Mass Effect 3
RetakeMassEffect - Fan Testimonies
Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Archengeia number 1, Mass Effect 3 Ending: My Thoughts, What Could Have Been, What Should Have Been
Archengeia number 2, Mass Effect 3: My Thoughts, Continued; Potential, Illusive Man, and Cerberus
Archengeia number 3, Mass Effect 3: Responses to Comments, The Importance of Choice, and The Indoctrination Theory
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 1
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 2
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Hold the line!
I'd like to remind the troops this is not just about the ending to ME3 or just about EA/Bioware, this is about you as the customer getting the product that was advertised.
For too long gaming companies have hidden behind things such as artistic integrity, time constraints, resources, I for one am willing to grant them those things, but I'm not willing to accept a subpar product using those as an excuse, if you cannot deliver then do not advertise that you can.
So remember troop, this not just about our dissatisfaction of the ending, this is a message to all gaming companies to deliver what they advertise, no more bullsh*t!
Find below some important links you may want to follow.
Kotaku Power 40
***Attention*** Mass Effect Survey Scam
Alternative forum(if required) courtesy of Cybermortis
Polls
Since we're getting paid DLC, is it enough for Bioware to just "clarify"?
Poll About Your reaction on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?
Provide Bioware with your feedback
Leave your feedback on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement from 21st March 2012
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread
Bioware's Promises pre-game release and their PR response analysed
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***
Retake Mass Effect Movement Resources
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics
Retake Mass Effect Movement
Audio Interview with the Organizer of RetakeME3
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
PAX East Platoon
Adamantium93, So about those "Insightful' and "Philosophical" endings...
HoldTheLine, A website who's main asset is a forum which has gone to great length to unify the community.
Retakemasseffect.org, This is a resource site with fun things like daily initiatives (like an N7 avatar generator) to get people involved.
Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
@RetakeME3
Latest News
Giant Bomb, Sticking the Landing
Forbes, The Real Precedent Being Set By Mass Effect 3 Protests
Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'
Killer Kittens from Mars, Charity sees the need, not the cause - German proverb
International Business Times, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: Disappointed Fans Send Bioware 402 Cupcakes In Protest
California Literary Review, Reaping the Harvest of Poor Choices
Fprbes, Mass Effect 3 Protesters Sending Cupcakes to Bioware
Forbes, Why Most Websites Have to Make Nice to the Industry
Forbes, New Ending Setting Precedence?
Forbes, Commander Shepard Actor Mark Meer Weighs In On Mass Effect 3 Ending And DLC
Forbes on indoctrination theory
Forbes reports on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement
Forbes, Why Child's Play Stopped Taking Donations From Retake Mass Effect
Forbes, Further Thoughts on Mass Effect 3's Ending and Future DLC
Forbes, Mass Effect 3 And Corporate Influence Over Commercial Art
CVG, Mass Effect 3: 86% think BioWare blew the ending
BBC news technology section
Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
GotGame, The
customer is always right.
NY Daily News about Retake Mass Effect
The Telegraph in UK reporting about our movement
The wall street journal, Why the Ending of Mass Effect 3 Started a Furor
IBT, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: ‘The New Yorker’ Weighs In On Fan Protests
Videos
Jim Sterling gets it!
he Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Retake Mass Effect - A Character Tribute
I Am the Very Model of a Mass Effect Enthusiast (SPOILERS)
Global EDMONTON, Cupcake protest against Mass Effect 3
RetakeMassEffect - Fan Testimonies
Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Archengeia number 1, Mass Effect 3 Ending: My Thoughts, What Could Have Been, What Should Have Been
Archengeia number 2, Mass Effect 3: My Thoughts, Continued; Potential, Illusive Man, and Cerberus
Archengeia number 3, Mass Effect 3: Responses to Comments, The Importance of Choice, and The Indoctrination Theory
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 1
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 2
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:57
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Sorry for lot of text (and its English) but this one spent last twenty nights or 100 hours playing Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3 because it heard about "stupid" ending and was not ready to believe it without its own experience. This one did not read any comics or novels neither played any DLC except From Ashes. This one has not read Codex yet but in second play through it will. It has lot of time to play before ending will be right.
Few years ago, this one bought Mass Effect. It heard lot of stories about it, this one likes Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines or Deus Ex which are first person but this should me something similar this one played it on hard with John Shepard and because it was too complex for it, it decided to wait until it will have more time. It bought ME2 Collector’s edition and waited for trilogy to be complete and bought ME3 Collector’s edition and started to read reviews and learned about ending controversy so it started its new gameplay.
This one decided for playing with Jane Shepard, because it heard that the game was going to be long and it liked the appearance and voice of female Shepard more (this one did not know anything about Quarians that time, especially the one named Tali’Zorah nar Rayya).
This one was soldier this time, which was very wise and made it very compatible with Liara and Tali – making something like Hackett’s Angels :-) This one learned how to equip weapons with mods, how to upgrade its abilities and how to holster weapon and exit Mako. This one began to like and later to love the game. This one also encountered lot of bugs but did not mind. This one learned about bad Cerebrus and worse Geth and the worst Reapers and indoctrination.
This one started the second game and was disappointed, this one needed to have DVD in its drive. This one needed to learn to use Spacebar for everything and this one died so many times because it was unable to enter or exit cover. This one did not mind, this one did not mind the bugs, this one cared only about writing and reading its own story at the same time. This one was unhappy about Tali not loving it and Kelly not counting as romance nevertheless this one enjoyed the game and learned about not so bad Cerebrus, not so bad Geth, bad Collectors and of course the worst thing in this galaxy - the Reapers.
This one did not install the third game. This one does not like Origin. This one does not like EA and this one hates DRM. This one is aware of the rules of this forum and used you-know-what kind of computer magic to be able to play the game without agreeing with EULA. (However this one failed and accepted to be able to post in this forum). This one was very unhappy about multiplayer having impact on the singleplayer. Nevertheless this one did not mind. This one learned about bad Cerebrus, indoctrinated TIM, cooperation between Geth and Quarians and love between EDI and Joker. This one does not like stupid “Alan Wake” nightmares about the boy he does not know. This one is happy about deus ex machina superweapon Crucible. This one had to fight bad Reapers and cool space ninja Kai Leng. This one did not like the fight with Kai Leng because Kai Leng is immortal before making four holes in Cerebrus HQ. This one says goodbye to all friends before the final battle. This one does not like infinite numbers of enemies in this level but it does not mind. This is it. This one is running. This one is killed by Reaper’s laser. This one is in heaven. This one is in hell. This one is in nightmare. This one is confused and is running or staggers to the beam and to the citadel. This one kills the Marauder Shields without realizing it. The afterlife or nightmare or reality continues in brand new part of the Citadel or mind or something else. This one learns about indoctrinated TIM who wants to control the Reapers (which is impossible) and tells him to kill himself which he does. The nightmare continues and this one meets deus ex machina boy who does not know anything about circular logic. He tells me that I can control Reapers but no one else can. This one does not buy it. He tells me that I can sacrifice myself and make little reaper from everyone. This one does not buy it. He also tells me I can destroy all synthetics, even Geths who are healing weak immune system of Quarians, this one does not buy it. This one destroys all the Reapers and all the Mass relays (Why?). This one does not destroy synthetics (according to YouTube and EDI). This one sees Joker with Normandy trying to outrun R(GB) wave. This one does not understand it. This one sees Liara and Joker on the Jungle moon with Normandy but does not understand. This one has more questions than answers.
This one is very sorry but it has to tell someone. This one is playing Mass Effect 1 with new character, this one likes the Mass effect but this one does not like the part after being killed by Reaper’s laser. This one wants happy ending or ending. This one wants to see whether Asari or Salarians have deus ex machina brand new Mass Relays or the galactic civilizations are doomed. This one wants to know why is Joker stealing its ship and crashing on unknown moon. This one ignores Star Child and its circular logic about saving civilizations by destroying them. This one is working on its own ending when it is indoctrinated or incapacitated and saved by its best friends as well as the rest of the galaxy mass relays included.
Few years ago, this one bought Mass Effect. It heard lot of stories about it, this one likes Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines or Deus Ex which are first person but this should me something similar this one played it on hard with John Shepard and because it was too complex for it, it decided to wait until it will have more time. It bought ME2 Collector’s edition and waited for trilogy to be complete and bought ME3 Collector’s edition and started to read reviews and learned about ending controversy so it started its new gameplay.
This one decided for playing with Jane Shepard, because it heard that the game was going to be long and it liked the appearance and voice of female Shepard more (this one did not know anything about Quarians that time, especially the one named Tali’Zorah nar Rayya).
This one was soldier this time, which was very wise and made it very compatible with Liara and Tali – making something like Hackett’s Angels :-) This one learned how to equip weapons with mods, how to upgrade its abilities and how to holster weapon and exit Mako. This one began to like and later to love the game. This one also encountered lot of bugs but did not mind. This one learned about bad Cerebrus and worse Geth and the worst Reapers and indoctrination.
This one started the second game and was disappointed, this one needed to have DVD in its drive. This one needed to learn to use Spacebar for everything and this one died so many times because it was unable to enter or exit cover. This one did not mind, this one did not mind the bugs, this one cared only about writing and reading its own story at the same time. This one was unhappy about Tali not loving it and Kelly not counting as romance nevertheless this one enjoyed the game and learned about not so bad Cerebrus, not so bad Geth, bad Collectors and of course the worst thing in this galaxy - the Reapers.
This one did not install the third game. This one does not like Origin. This one does not like EA and this one hates DRM. This one is aware of the rules of this forum and used you-know-what kind of computer magic to be able to play the game without agreeing with EULA. (However this one failed and accepted to be able to post in this forum). This one was very unhappy about multiplayer having impact on the singleplayer. Nevertheless this one did not mind. This one learned about bad Cerebrus, indoctrinated TIM, cooperation between Geth and Quarians and love between EDI and Joker. This one does not like stupid “Alan Wake” nightmares about the boy he does not know. This one is happy about deus ex machina superweapon Crucible. This one had to fight bad Reapers and cool space ninja Kai Leng. This one did not like the fight with Kai Leng because Kai Leng is immortal before making four holes in Cerebrus HQ. This one says goodbye to all friends before the final battle. This one does not like infinite numbers of enemies in this level but it does not mind. This is it. This one is running. This one is killed by Reaper’s laser. This one is in heaven. This one is in hell. This one is in nightmare. This one is confused and is running or staggers to the beam and to the citadel. This one kills the Marauder Shields without realizing it. The afterlife or nightmare or reality continues in brand new part of the Citadel or mind or something else. This one learns about indoctrinated TIM who wants to control the Reapers (which is impossible) and tells him to kill himself which he does. The nightmare continues and this one meets deus ex machina boy who does not know anything about circular logic. He tells me that I can control Reapers but no one else can. This one does not buy it. He tells me that I can sacrifice myself and make little reaper from everyone. This one does not buy it. He also tells me I can destroy all synthetics, even Geths who are healing weak immune system of Quarians, this one does not buy it. This one destroys all the Reapers and all the Mass relays (Why?). This one does not destroy synthetics (according to YouTube and EDI). This one sees Joker with Normandy trying to outrun R(GB) wave. This one does not understand it. This one sees Liara and Joker on the Jungle moon with Normandy but does not understand. This one has more questions than answers.
This one is very sorry but it has to tell someone. This one is playing Mass Effect 1 with new character, this one likes the Mass effect but this one does not like the part after being killed by Reaper’s laser. This one wants happy ending or ending. This one wants to see whether Asari or Salarians have deus ex machina brand new Mass Relays or the galactic civilizations are doomed. This one wants to know why is Joker stealing its ship and crashing on unknown moon. This one ignores Star Child and its circular logic about saving civilizations by destroying them. This one is working on its own ending when it is indoctrinated or incapacitated and saved by its best friends as well as the rest of the galaxy mass relays included.
#68968
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:00
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Ohpus wrote...
Yeah well, when it comes to the weekend I do thing IRL like walking around outside and cleaning the house or playing other video games. The thread jumps 50-100 pages. I read 5 pages, realize I won't catch up in the time available, in then just jump ahead to 5-10 before the end.
Speaking of Qidditch. Do the British riot at those games too? What would a "Quidditch hooligan" even look like?
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#68969
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:08
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We share your pain, you are among friends here.NetAndy wrote...
*snip*This one is very sorry but it has to tell someone. This one is playing Mass Effect 1 with new character, this one likes the Mass effect but this one does not like the part after being killed by Reaper’s laser. This one wants happy ending or ending. This one wants to see whether Asari or Salarians have deus ex machina brand new Mass Relays or the galactic civilizations are doomed. This one wants to know why is Joker stealing its ship and crashing on unknown moon. This one ignores Star Child and its circular logic about saving civilizations by destroying them. This one is working on its own ending when it is indoctrinated or incapacitated and saved by its best friends as well as the rest of the galaxy mass relays included.
#68970
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:08
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Sir yes sir!DJBare wrote...
Troop!, it has come to my attention about murmurs in the line, murmurs of discontent and even some troops pulling back saying things like "You should forget EA/Bioware and move on";
I'd like to remind the troops this is not just about the ending to ME3 or just about EA/Bioware, this is about you as the customer getting the product that was advertised.
For too long gaming companies have hidden behind things such as artistic integrity, time constraints, resources, I for one am willing to grant them those things, but I'm not willing to accept a subpar product using those as an excuse, if you cannot deliver then do not advertise that you can.
So remember troop, this not just about our dissatisfaction of the ending, this is a message to all gaming companies to deliver what they advertise, no more bullsh*t!
#68971
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:09
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LethesDeep wrote...
However, you fail to see one thing: DLC involves work. Work means people spending time making new cutscenes, environments, getting the voice-actors back to record lines. This all costs money and BioWare is a BUSINESS. If a decision results in a net loss for them, they will not follow through with that decision. Free ending DLC is one of those decisions. My post was a 2 phase idea where BioWare answered our requests to uphold they're pre-release promises while minimalizing that net loss - maybe even making it a net gain.
I think you're wrong here. This work you mentioned is what they should have done before the release. Right now we have an incomplete product with rushed and inconsistent final part. If they are making ending fix right now (which I seriously doubt and hope at the same time), they are working on borrowed money - money we gave them already when we bought a supposedly full, complete product. Or maybe we should pay for every bugfix as well? Because right now I see the situation like this: we have a bug in the game, and it should be fixed. It may be optional bugfix, but it's still a bugfix.
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#68972
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:10
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Mythandariel wrote...
Double thank you, sweetie.
I am a 30 something woman with a dream to get Garrus and Thane to make a wobbly-H with my Shepard in the middle.
Am I the only one thinking that this would cause a lot of chaffing? Due to the scaley skin and all...
#68973
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:12
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g_bassi13 wrote...
Deschi wrote...
g_bassi13 wrote...
Silasqtx wrote...
http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png
Seems pretty much legit to me.
I think I'm missing the supposed significance of this.
The file with the jungle planet's textures the Normandi crashes is named "dream" something... but take it with a grain of salt! On 4chan another screenshot was shown in which the little boy Shep dreams about was called "Harbinger" ... and of course it was a fake (file names can easily be renamed
Ah, thanks. I was wondering what it meant by "dream". Given the context, I agree it's hard to believe they would label a texture file so blantantly.
Also, that whole Harbinger one I didn't believe for a second, lol.
I just found it in my own ME3 folder. It's legit, not 4chan stuff.
*sorry for the Ziqqurat of clarification.
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#68974
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:13
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jerobolod wrote...
Thanks for the links. There's that word again...whiners.
I also noticed that she hasn't finished the game. Which is about right for someone in the media going off the deep end with Retake Mass Effect it seems.
And the whole bit where she plans to seduce...herself..?
You have to love yourself before you can love others......
#68975
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:14
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Intruiging....Silasqtx wrote...
I just found it in my own ME3 folder. It's legit, not 4chan stuff.
*sorry for the Ziqqurat of clarification.
