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#6876
KMYash

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RazorrX wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

Micky Mouse HUSKS!!!!!!


The animatronics are actually geth in disguise.


All the husks have to wear mickey mouse ears while there and have to get parents to shell out 20$ for a plastic cup to drink out of.

Horrors

#6877
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Aesieru wrote...

killerteeth wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

So I did a little research.

I've played ME2 very recently over the past 4 days as I prepared another more recent character for transfer--a perfect paragon with a focus on Ashley that did try to get Samara but failed and tried to be nice to Jack and then said no when the photo frame of Ash got turned over. While playing I saw the entirety of the game, and I realized just how little the cinematics played a part in my play through, primarily really only when I was landing, arriving, or fighting in the ship.

I just looked through the movies section of ME2 just as I did for ME3's directory file, and I have to say that basing the ME2 game before it came out on the movies present would be ridiculously poor because all I'd know is that a lot of stations explode and potentially I shoot a big beam. I would have no context for what I'm looking at.

After reviewing this and being upset at no Salarian fleet and all the jazz I've posted... I must say that I could not logically nor rationally make any conclusion on the game outside of the relays exploding unless I fully play it and actually experience the other 99% of the game that the cutscenes don't tell me about.

Judging anything without context is illogical.


A player with early access (space edition) has already done a perfect playthrough with ME1 + ME2 import and NG+ character.

Relays still explode and the normandy still gets stranded. Thats the best ending your getting. Denial isn't going to change that.


Again, without context, we can't understand this.


What context are you talking about? The main reason people are complaining is because of what happens to the Normandy and her crew. Its been confirmed that no matter what ending you get the Normandy is lost and the crew stranded/dead.

*Edit: Just to clarify, that includes Joker, EDI, the prothean, all squadmates and LIs who are on the Normandy (including Liara).

Modifié par killerteeth, 02 mars 2012 - 04:28 .


#6878
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Tazzmission wrote...

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albertalad wrote...

Then that is exactly what BW is doing now - catering to the doom and gloom crowd. They got what they want the rest of us did not. That's as plain and simple as it can possibly be.


no there not. you want selfishnes look at activision and cod

yearly release with same dlc and no improvments and they charge a nasty price for it

bioware has done nothing like that and you know it


He said nothing about being selfish; he just said they were catering to a specific group, and he's right. The endings have a common, depressing theme. That's catering to a subsection, albeit a small one.



:sigh: the endings make sense mainly because of what the story is.

do you expect earth being destroyed  or the events in me3 a good thing?


so we should just ruin a specific emotional part of a story for a happy go lucky ending of rainbows and butterflys and live happily ever after right?

how the hell does that make any sense at all?

i swear some of you posters say you can write fan fictions but you have no idea on how to tell a story do you?



again with the Rainbows and butterflies? REally. Get some new material. That and read what people are actually asking for before you jump on the 'no rainbow and butterfly' bandwagon. Thanks.

#6879
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killerteeth wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

killerteeth wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

So I did a little research.

I've played ME2 very recently over the past 4 days as I prepared another more recent character for transfer--a perfect paragon with a focus on Ashley that did try to get Samara but failed and tried to be nice to Jack and then said no when the photo frame of Ash got turned over. While playing I saw the entirety of the game, and I realized just how little the cinematics played a part in my play through, primarily really only when I was landing, arriving, or fighting in the ship.

I just looked through the movies section of ME2 just as I did for ME3's directory file, and I have to say that basing the ME2 game before it came out on the movies present would be ridiculously poor because all I'd know is that a lot of stations explode and potentially I shoot a big beam. I would have no context for what I'm looking at.

After reviewing this and being upset at no Salarian fleet and all the jazz I've posted... I must say that I could not logically nor rationally make any conclusion on the game outside of the relays exploding unless I fully play it and actually experience the other 99% of the game that the cutscenes don't tell me about.

Judging anything without context is illogical.


A player with early access (space edition) has already done a perfect playthrough with ME1 + ME2 import and NG+ character.

Relays still explode and the normandy still gets stranded. Thats the best ending your getting. Denial isn't going to change that.


Again, without context, we can't understand this.


What context are you talking about? The main reason people are complaining is because of what happens to the Normandy and her crew. Its been confirmed that no matter what ending you get the Normandy is lost and the crew stranded/dead.


You expected to defeat all powerful race working for millions upon millions of years without being destroyed by it?

We don't understand what happened in the in-game convos so we have no context for what happened to the rest of the races and the rest of Humanity, maybe everyone died.

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Aesieru wrote...

Again, without context, we can't understand this.


I don't think you get it. This is why people are upset, context is irrelevant, nothing you did mattered, you get to choose from the same 3 different colored explosions as everyone else.

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Just was reminded of this, I think it was 50-100 pages back someone posted a video showing a Q&A with one of the developers and someone asked, in ME3 will the game continue after the final battle. To which they said, in more words, "yes." We now know this is happens by resetting to right before the battle, which is NOT what the question was. Cue the lawyers saying "it's not a lie to say you can play after the final battle if the game wisks you back to right before the final battle." Then cue the customers to say, I can do that on my own, that's not what I was asking.

Too bad that collection of PR statements thread closed down, that would be a good one to post there.

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killerteeth wrote...What context are you talking about? The main reason people are complaining is because of what happens to the Normandy and her crew. Its been confirmed that no matter what ending you get the Normandy is lost and the crew stranded/dead.


Dude, this (the underlined bit) hasn't been confirmed.

What's been confirmed, is that there exist endings like that.

Many are convinced, that this exhausts all possible endings (I'm very much inclined to believe that); but, again, it's a conjecture. Hasn't yet been proven.

Modifié par WvStolzing, 02 mars 2012 - 04:31 .


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WvStolzing wrote...

killerteeth wrote...What context are you talking about? The main reason people are complaining is because of what happens to the Normandy and her crew. Its been confirmed that no matter what ending you get the Normandy is lost and the crew stranded/dead.


Dude, this (the underlined bit) hasn't been confirmed.

What's been confirmed, is that there exist endings like that.

Many are convinced, that this exhausts all possible endings (I'm very much inclined to believe that); but, again, it's a conjecture. Hasn't yet been proven.


Hard evidence disagrees

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OJ is apparently hunting down the real endings as we speak.

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I_Jedi wrote...

WvStolzing wrote...

killerteeth wrote...What context are you talking about? The main reason people are complaining is because of what happens to the Normandy and her crew. Its been confirmed that no matter what ending you get the Normandy is lost and the crew stranded/dead.


Dude, this (the underlined bit) hasn't been confirmed.

What's been confirmed, is that there exist endings like that.

Many are convinced, that this exhausts all possible endings (I'm very much inclined to believe that); but, again, it's a conjecture. Hasn't yet been proven.


Hard evidence disagrees


oh well, this is hopeless. who am I trying to talk to.

I wasted enough time on here, trying to commiserate; now I'll head on to waste my time on other things.

Bye.

#6889
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The picture spam needs to stop or I'll start reporting it.

Anyway, point remains that we fully knew we weren't going to survive this going in, you can never fire a huge secret weapon that causes massive destruction of superior alien race and then expect to somehow survive without repercussions.

The color of the beam maybe wasn't the best way to infer the differences but the point is the game itself.

Without context we don't really know what's going on other than the secret crucible and what it does.

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I_Jedi wrote...

WvStolzing wrote...

killerteeth wrote...What context are you talking about? The main reason people are complaining is because of what happens to the Normandy and her crew. Its been confirmed that no matter what ending you get the Normandy is lost and the crew stranded/dead.


Dude, this (the underlined bit) hasn't been confirmed.

What's been confirmed, is that there exist endings like that.

Many are convinced, that this exhausts all possible endings (I'm very much inclined to believe that); but, again, it's a conjecture. Hasn't yet been proven.


Hard evidence disagrees


Maybe it's indisputable to you, but it isn't to a lot of people who haven't seen more than a few vague screenshots or a handful of cutscenes from possible endings.

#6891
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*snip*

Here is all of the linked information. Look at it yourself. Or just stick your head in the sand and sing la la la la.

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Again, at some point you have to accept that Bioware turned into what they did by their own will.

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I'm not asking for anything more than BW promised - my decisions through ME1 &2 mattered in the ending in ME 3. From all the evidence presented so far - none of my decisions mattered in the slighest. BW promised conclusion to L1s. Not even close. Anyone who chose an L1 from ME 2 isn't even in the picture at all. Moreover, Sheppard already died in ME 2 - doing the same again is silly and lazy in the extreme. Marooning Normandy crew in some planet containing strong hints of starvation, inbreeding, and a slow lingering death for Tali and Garris food wise. That isn't even artsy - that's extremely sick and twisted.

Then we get the color coded system on top of that - magically - and anyone who likes that garbage is as sick and twisted as this ending suggests. Its a real kindness just to shoot each of them in the head as a mercy killing rather that this sadistic idiocy!

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killerteeth wrote...

*snip*

Here is all of the linked information. Look at it yourself. Or just stick your head in the sand and sing la la la la.

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No that isn't good enough! We demand actual proof! /deniers

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KateKane wrote...

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Again, at some point you have to accept that Bioware turned into what they did by their own will.

The ME team, at least. The DA team seems to be learning.

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killerteeth wrote...

*snip*

Here is all of the linked information. Look at it yourself. Or just stick your head in the sand and sing la la la la.

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Ending clarifications by early access player


I don't think I've seen anyone flatly denying any of these outcomes. Why is it a bad thing to want to see proof for ourselves instead of taking someone else's word for it?

Thank you for linking to these. I'm going to look through them.

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vanetian wrote...

I don't think I've seen anyone flatly denying any of these outcomes.


Yes, they have.

Why is it a bad thing to want to see proof for ourselves instead of taking someone else's word for it?


Because people have been shown proof and refuse to believe it because it doesn't jive with how they envisioned their ending, or the fact that BioWare wouldn't "do this" to the fans.

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[quote]mass_zotz wrote...

[quote]RazorrX wrote...

[quote]mass_zotz wrote...

[quote]ToastPants wrote...

[quote]Johnnycide wrote...

[quote]KMYash wrote...

[quote]xtorma wrote...

[quote]Unit-Alpha wrote...

[quote]RazorrX wrote...

[quote]KMYash wrote...

[quote]Unit-Alpha wrote...

[quote]DifferentD17 wrote...

Should've saved him from that reaper, now he may smite you.

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But... he can't have died, he's God! Loopholes!

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Nope, he's dead, which means Shep now lives in a godless universe. Hence the endings we get.

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there is no video evidence showing his burnt body inside the wreckage of the shuttle.  Therefore I hold that he actually teleported away prior to detonation and is currently at disneyworld.

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I'm pretty sure if I were a Reaper, Disneyworld would be the first thing I would wipe out. Or after the Control ending.. hmm...

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Tigger would friggin own the reaper fleet!
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MIckey Mouse would teach the Reapers a thing or two about indoctrination. They'd fly away singing songs about small animals and true love.

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Why hasn't the Alliance thought to use this?

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What do you think Shepard's green beam of love is?

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Now all I can think of is the massive HORDE at Disneyland last night.

HUSKS.

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Micky Mouse HUSKS!!!!!!

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The animatronics are actually geth in disguise.

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Just think about it. Micky mouse getting speard threw the chest and becoming some robo death machine......:lol:

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Breaking news. After poor player feedback, Bioware has replaced the end of Mass Effect 3 with the last 10 minutes of FANTASMIC.

Modifié par ToastPants, 02 mars 2012 - 04:37 .


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Blacklash93 wrote...
The ME team, at least. The DA team seems to be learning.

Oh?

Unless there's been some recent development to indicate this, I'd have to disagree.

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Aesieru wrote...

The picture spam needs to stop or I'll start reporting it.

Anyway, point remains that we fully knew we weren't going to survive this going in, you can never fire a huge secret weapon that causes massive destruction of superior alien race and then expect to somehow survive without repercussions.

The color of the beam maybe wasn't the best way to infer the differences but the point is the game itself.

Without context we don't really know what's going on other than the secret crucible and what it does.


Sure. So why can't one of the seven repurcussions be faced by Shepard and the crew together? Instead BW forces the Normandy and her crew to be marooned/destroyed and Shepard can NEVER be with them or see them again. Same for all endings. That's the part that sucks. I always knew the galaxy would not come out unscathed. I just wanted that scathing to be faced by Shep & his team, not forever-alone Shep. Like half of the game story is building relationships between Shepard and other characters. I'm just not okay with every ending destroying those relationships. It seems like a total rip off.