So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#69401
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:32
#69402
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:38
Cossack72 wrote...
There's no way to prepare yourself for that the first time around. It's like trying to brace yourself as you're about to get hit by a freight train.
Yeah, I know what you mean. My friend was warned by myself and another friend of hers that it was bad and it would make her angry. Suffice to say, I received a number of swear-filled all caps texts from her after she saw the ending. She was totally raging. I don't think anything I could've said would've prepared her.
#69403
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:38
I've wondered about this too. I played the game in total internet/media silence since I didn't want spoilers and was rather devastated by the endings. So were the few people I know personally who also went in blind.Little Miss Angel wrote...
Just out of curiosity, who here knew about the ending rage before you finished the game?
...
Do you think knowing how bad it was softened the blow?
Other players I know who finished later and had already received warnings of the endings said they didn't really care. I don't think they particularly liked the endings, but they didn't understand why those who hated them were making such a big deal out of it.
So, I think it's possible those of us who weren't expecting it got hit harder.
#69404
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:39
I'd heard that the ending was disappointing beforehand but nothing could really prepare for for something like THAT to follow a near perfect experience.Little Miss Angel wrote...
Cossack72 wrote...
There's no way to prepare yourself for that the first time around. It's like trying to brace yourself as you're about to get hit by a freight train.
Yeah, I know what you mean. My friend was warned by myself and another friend of hers that it was bad and it would make her angry. Suffice to say, I received a number of swear-filled all caps texts from her after she saw the ending. She was totally raging. I don't think anything I could've said would've prepared her.
#69405
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:40
Nharia1 wrote...
*sigh* It looks like college classes are going to go on forever right now... the bus that I take to get home will now be the last bus to come by the campus! v,v I'm so depressed right now, cause I can't really do much on here except the occasional skim of the posts... Just let me know when someone is acting up, I'll be here, eventually~!
*cough cough* college student procrastinating right here *cough cough*
I feel your pain. I've been in school for a while now, and this sucks. I have 2 exams tomorrow lol
#69406
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:41
#69407
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:42
TamiBx wrote...
Nharia1 wrote...
*sigh* It looks like college classes are going to go on forever right now... the bus that I take to get home will now be the last bus to come by the campus! v,v I'm so depressed right now, cause I can't really do much on here except the occasional skim of the posts... Just let me know when someone is acting up, I'll be here, eventually~!
*cough cough* college student procrastinating right here *cough cough*
I feel your pain. I've been in school for a while now, and this sucks. I have 2 exams tomorrow lol
My class tomorrow got canceled
#69408
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:42
TamiBx wrote...
Nharia1 wrote...
*sigh* It looks like college classes are going to go on forever right now... the bus that I take to get home will now be the last bus to come by the campus! v,v I'm so depressed right now, cause I can't really do much on here except the occasional skim of the posts... Just let me know when someone is acting up, I'll be here, eventually~!
*cough cough* college student procrastinating right here *cough cough*
I feel your pain. I've been in school for a while now, and this sucks. I have 2 exams tomorrow lol
O.O Geez my Quarter just started up this week, today's my first day back...
#69409
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:44
Lord Costantino wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
Nharia1 wrote...
*sigh* It looks like college classes are going to go on forever right now... the bus that I take to get home will now be the last bus to come by the campus! v,v I'm so depressed right now, cause I can't really do much on here except the occasional skim of the posts... Just let me know when someone is acting up, I'll be here, eventually~!
*cough cough* college student procrastinating right here *cough cough*
I feel your pain. I've been in school for a while now, and this sucks. I have 2 exams tomorrow lol
My class tomorrow got canceled
Why's that? And I don't have class tomorrow, I've only got two classes, both of them are one Tuesday and Thursdays~!
#69410
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:48
Nharia1 wrote...
Why's that? And I don't have class tomorrow, I've only got two classes, both of them are one Tuesday and Thursdays~!
Because some other presentation is being held in my classroom....so no class for me
#69411
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:50
Wasn't on yesterday due to it being my fathers birthday.
So anything happen in a day?
Holding the line!
#69412
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:50
Missy_MI wrote...
I've wondered about this too. I played the game in total internet/media silence since I didn't want spoilers and was rather devastated by the endings. So were the few people I know personally who also went in blind.
Other players I know who finished later and had already received warnings of the endings said they didn't really care. I don't think they particularly liked the endings, but they didn't understand why those who hated them were making such a big deal out of it.
So, I think it's possible those of us who weren't expecting it got hit harder.
Yeah, my brother knew about the fury before he got to the end. When he finished, he was kinda indifferent. Then he told me it wasn't as bad as I thought it was and I was vastly insulted. Eventually he came around after some thought and agreed with me that it was terrible.
Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 04 avril 2012 - 02:51 .
#69413
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:51
Nharia1 wrote...
And now I feel really loved by you guys, thanks~!:crying:
Muahaha one less obstacle to my INEVITABLE coup and rise to power. You.shall all one day awaken to my glorious flags hanging all over along with Retakes new orders to start a new cupcake drive delivered to my house, and at least I won't pass them on to some smelly needy kids or some such rot! On a lesser note, sorry you're bummed out bud.
#69414
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:52
Lord Costantino wrote...
Nharia1 wrote...
Why's that? And I don't have class tomorrow, I've only got two classes, both of them are one Tuesday and Thursdays~!
Because some other presentation is being held in my classroom....so no class for me
I am so jealous. I take like...6 classes. And my class would never be cancelled because of another presentation going on in the classroom
My econ class today was cancelled as well(Prof is in Vegas), but I still had another class and now I have 2 exams tomorrow, and I feel like I'm going to fail both of them
And yes, I am studying. And holding the line at the same time lol
#69415
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:53
#69416
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:53
#69417
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:54
Little Miss Angel wrote...
Hahaha, that was my immediate reaction too. The second the credits started, I googled what I'd done wrong. Then I learned that the endings were just R/G/B. So I headed straight over here and realized that this rage had been going on since before the game came out. I don't think I've left since the day I arrived.
Isn't it sad how the Starchild completely removed any sympathy we might've had for the kid before? Stupid kid, should've just listened to Shepard <_<
Yeah, when your 'good' ending makes your players think they've done something wrong it means you haven't instilled a sense of completion.. it means you've failed in your player covenant to ensure that player choices have predictable consequences. they even had that on a powerpoint from a couple years ago!
Up until the last cutscene I was of the opinion that Mass Effect 3 was a genre changing game. I actually was telling my mom at our weekly lunches out about the Conrad Vernier story arc.. and how it was so cool that being nice to this random dude on the Citadel from the first game and the second, and then finally the last game suddenly gave you some crucial information for the superweapon that was to save the galaxy .. from a guy who, by all standards, meant nothing in the grand cosmic scheme.
I didn't even know if it WOULD save the galaxy at that point.. I honestly figured the crucible was going to be an organic/synthetic life form that had to step into it to provide a template of what NOT to destroy - I went into it treating the thing like the Halo Rings figuring if I messed up I was going to wipe everything out. I literally scoured the galaxy trying to get War Assets.. hoping that I'd find something that would save Shepard, not knowing if I could, but doing my hardest to try to do it..
The sheer amount and weight of the consequences for every choice I made was incredible.. I honestly felt like I had to weigh every word suddenly to ensure survival of lives on a platoon level, all the way up to entire races. I actually felt like I'd been kicked in the gut when Thessia fell.. I felt JUST like Shepard was acting, which I've -never- felt before playing a video game.. ANY video game. I actually cried during the Thane death sequence, another first for a video game.. it just felt so perfect.. it was his character, and really a role model for everyone, even in death he was more worried about my soul than his own.
The music through the whole game was incredible. There were rousing parts, there were morose parts.. there were parts that made me laugh, parts that made me want to shoot a reaper in the face... or a Cerberus operative.
And then I got to the end... the incredible Anderson/Shepard scene... I didn't even really care how the illusive man made it there, I did notice the human writing in a part of the citadel humans were never supposed to have been in... but they were minor flaws in an overall incredible piece of art. I got to the controls, opened the arms after it all, it was stirring.. I felt exhausted for my character.. It made sense his comment to Hackett "What did you need me to do?"... that was my shepard and how I would have responded. Then I rose up in the light beam elevator, and suddenly the kid was there again.. I figured I'd passed out finally.. that this was dreaming again since I kept seeing the kid in my dreams...
Then I thought it might be more serious, not exactly indoctrination theory but that maybe I was fighting my own physicality and trying to stay alive.. I listened to the choices, hoped that there would be one to fight... and I picked the blue paragon choice, because I figured that made sense and would give me the result I wanted since they really sounded similar at that point and so I figured Bioware would guide me in the right direction as they'd done up to that point.. I TRUSTED Bioware at that point.. they'd proven themselves.. I didn't need to suspend belief, I was engrossed, I was hooked.. It didn't cross my mind that they would destroy the continuity of the moment and when it suddenly ended I honestly figured "I must have missed somehting"... it didn't even cross my mind that Bioware had done something wrong... I'd been playing SWTOR regularly up to that point, I LIKED SWTOR.. I liked the story in it.. I'd played KOTOR... I loved Bioware games... and they had never done something to that point.. so I figured it must have been something -I- did.
And then there's the rest of the story I've been sharing with everyone here and creating as we go along.. seriously you guys are amazing here
#69418
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:55
CitizenSnips28 wrote...
Nharia1 wrote...
And now I feel really loved by you guys, thanks~!:crying:
Muahaha one less obstacle to my INEVITABLE coup and rise to power. You.shall all one day awaken to my glorious flags hanging all over along with Retakes new orders to start a new cupcake drive delivered to my house, and at least I won't pass them on to some smelly needy kids or some such rot! On a lesser note, sorry you're bummed out bud.
Boy, did you just attempt to take over from me? I think you did....
#69419
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:56
TamiBx wrote...
I am so jealous. I take like...6 classes. And my class would never be cancelled because of another presentation going on in the classroom
My econ class today was cancelled as well(Prof is in Vegas), but I still had another class and now I have 2 exams tomorrow, and I feel like I'm going to fail both of them
And yes, I am studying. And holding the line at the same time lol
I have only 2 more classes left for this semester and taking 4 classes for the summer. This semester has been to chill....must...have...a challenge.
#69420
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:58
Garlador wrote...
Little Miss Angel wrote...
*snip*
I heard plenty about how the ending was bad, but I thought, "okay, it can't be THAT bad. It just can't."
I was playing through the Tuchanka mission. It was a super-high point of the game. I though, "no way. This game rocks. Look at how awesome it ties this story up. They must be a bunch of hissy whining entitled fanboys."
Then I accepted, after more people started talking, that, er, maybe the ending would be bad. So I braced myself.
... And then the ending came. Like a punch to the nuts.
I was prepared... and it was WORSE.
This describes my experience with 100% accuracy. Incredulous at the criticism, gradually accepting, thinking I was prepared, and then... not even the good stuff could take the edge off that final blow.
Modifié par Xelv88, 04 avril 2012 - 02:59 .
#69421
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 02:58
I went in blind as can be. I never look online to find out about games before I finish them at least once. Even after I finish I only look just to see if I missed any content like weapons or whatever. When I finished ME I was in disbelief (Thursday after release, I might have been "sick" and missed a day of school). I just shut off my Xbox and went online to see if I had done something wrong. I then stubbled acrossed this board made an account waited 24 hours and have been on the line for over 2000 pages.Little Miss Angel wrote...
Just out of curiosity, who here knew about the ending rage before you finished the game?
I myself was flying in pretty blind. I'd only seen a single tweet to one of devs saying the ending was terrible. I quickly brushed the thought aside and stayed off the internet for an entire week until I completed the game.
Do you think knowing how bad it was softened the blow?
#69422
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 03:00
Lord Costantino wrote...
I have only 2 more classes left for this semester and taking 4 classes for the summer. This semester has been to chill....must...have...a challenge.
Replay ME3?
No classes over the summer for me. Internship and real life stuff...
#69423
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 03:02
TamiBx wrote...
Lord Costantino wrote...
I have only 2 more classes left for this semester and taking 4 classes for the summer. This semester has been to chill....must...have...a challenge.
Replay ME3?
No classes over the summer for me. Internship and real life stuff...
NEVER! I will not play ME3 ever again unless it's fixed!
#69424
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 03:03
Computim wrote...
Yeah, when your 'good' ending makes your players think they've done something wrong it means you haven't instilled a sense of completion.. it means you've failed in your player covenant to ensure that player choices have predictable consequences. they even had that on a powerpoint from a couple years ago!
Up until the last cutscene I was of the opinion that Mass Effect 3 was a genre changing game. I actually was telling my mom at our weekly lunches out about the Conrad Vernier story arc..
...............
And then there's the rest of the story I've been sharing with everyone here and creating as we go along.. seriously you guys are amazing here
Agreed on all points, good sir. For the five days that I played ME3, it was the only thing I could think about, I was loving every single second of it. I too felt everything my Shepard was feeling. I cried for Mordin and Thane, as well as the retaking of Rannoch with the help of Legion. I'd never been so moved by a game before.
And then the ending came. For a whole week the only thing I could think about was how truly awful it was. The switch from something so wonderful to something so bad was so abrupt it was like mood/tone whiplash. I actually felt kinda ill afterwards.
Still, I've enjoyed my time here. You guys have become my support group as I weather this ordeal. Hold the line.
#69425
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 03:03
sydranark wrote...
Alleviate tension or flip flop on the matter, being ambiguous as ever? Unless they have clear-cut answers, they won't alleviate anything.Kyria Nyriese wrote...
I agree with you wholeheartedly on this, they are trying to present a group that might be able to actually allievate some of the tension with this instead of in flame it more. Though I might have left Mike off that list, but I guess he has been pretty out there with his tweets and stuff. So I'll roll with it.
Oh I understand what you're saying, I'm looking at it from a business perspective on why they chose the people they did for PAX. You are quite right in if the PR speak continues through PAX people are going to start going off.




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