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#70426
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TamiBx wrote...

 Now this made me tear up a little :crying:

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Tears...comin on...must not...

#70427
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Back on the line for a few hours.Net is running a little faster.Anything new since around noon?Love how fast the line moves.

#70428
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frypan wrote...

Just a quick note that the Southern flank of the line is still holding well!

A few of us in Tasmania have expressed our disgust with the endings, but am not sure if anyone else from here is on these forums (large island but small population) I'd be more interested to hear if anyone from more isolated locations is mad, and willing to hold the line.

Anyone here from Patagonia, Antarctica? Perhaps someone unlucky enough to be stuck on the space station with only ME3 to play, over and over? That thought alone could induce a spacewalk.. sans suit.


Haha well I'm from the US state of Idaho which has a wicked low population density. Literally work on the family farm, though yeah that's not Antarctica low. :P Still I actually bumped into someone who lived about thirty miles away in here, which was pretty cool given said low population density.

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Good morning! Is there any news for last... 6 hours?

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 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/

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TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/


Thx for the link Tami!

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Lord Costantino wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Now this made me tear up a little :crying:

http://img585.images...7/motiv2389.jpg


Tears...comin on...must not...


Oh, man. Not in a day that I've got the blues. I may follow Lord Costantino and... and... :crying:

#70433
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@Lord Costantino

You are welcome :)

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Don't cry...you can save him, if you are willing to kill Wrex >_<

#70434
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Posted this over on the "New Forbes Article" thread; thought folks here might find the information interesting:
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There is one thing, though, that sets EA apart from competitors like Activision but hasn't been mentioned in the context of "worst company" (OK, let's say "bad company"). These other companies manage to turn a profit. EA, on the other hand, does NOT, and insists that rampant piracy has hit it so hard that it has been forced to investigate new revenue streams like Day One DLC and micro-transaction schemes.

I'm skeptical and here's why: If I go peruse EA's financials, I see these numbers:

2011 FY Gross Profit Margin:   59.8%
2011 FY Net Profit Margin:        -4.5% (yep, you read that right - negative 4.5%)

Revenue per Employee: $505,659
Average Revenue per Employee, Industry Sector: $15,015,580

Cost of acquisitions, last 5 years: $1,067,000 (10% of gross profit)

So... Can we agree that, while this is certainly the profile of a company with a problem, the problem is NOT with its revenue stream?

It's incredible, really. Last year, EA couldn't manage to eke out a dime of net profit off a whopping gross margin of 60%. (For comparison, IBM's was 51%.) In fact, EA hasn't been profitable since 2007. It lost $276 million last year, $677 million in 2010, and $1.1 billion in 2009. Its revenue per employee is one third of the average across its industry peers, indicating far too large a workforce. It spent a full 10% of its gross profit over the last 5 years on game company acquisitions, with no visible benefit at all to its miserable bottom line.

Can anybody legitimately claim that what this company needs is new revenue streams? I'd contend it much more desperately needs new management.

The worst? I don't know. But, even from a basic accounting perspective, much, much worse than its peers.
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Modifié par SkaldFish, 05 avril 2012 - 03:53 .


#70435
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TamiBx wrote...

@Lord Costantino

You are welcome :)

@Darth Suetam

Don't cry...you can save him, if you are willing to kill Wrex >_<



Huahahahahahahaha ugh, what a choice!!! :pinched:

#70436
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Hmm yeah sounds like she's at least sympathetic. I'm a bit puzzled by her confirmation that she had not been contracted for follow up voice work. Kinda suggests that Bioware isn't really doing anything as far as content goes. Kind of a downer. However what has me confuses is even without the ending debacle, wouldn't the gang be contracted for dlc work? Especially Meer and Hale.


Hm? That's odd. Mark Meer said he was contracted to do DLC in a Forbes article a little while ago (but he didn't say anything about what the DLC was).


You're right, I think I remember that Forbes article. Maybe Hale just meant she hadn't been contracted to do a full on game after this, which we pretty much knew. This was supposed to be the last game featuring Shep as the main character. I thought it was the last ME game period, though Ray Muzyka (or however its spelled) seemed to suggest there would be more full games. I assume if they went that rout it will feature a new protagonist. Not sure if they can do a full on sequel though, given how much they upturn the setting at the end of ME3. Even if we assume that people can somehow rebuild the relays, the three flavors have some pretty big impacts on the setting, especially if you went with mint flavor. I guess everyone is half robot in the sequel? I suppose they could go Deus Ex and just say everyone starts to augment themselves with cybernetics and such anyway, even if you don't pick mint.

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TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/


That was awesome Image IPB

Bioware could have avoided ALL of this if they had taken the time to just give us this sort of epilogue... honestly... and it really makes me hope that if this IS what they give us, that I can accept it and let go of the upset that I've had the last month... it's almost like a bad breakup, I don't want to forgive, but it's not like Bioware cares if I do or don't and I need to for my own sanity and mental health. Image IPB

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SkaldFish wrote...

Posted this over on the "New Forbes Article" thread; thought folks here might find the information interesting:
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<snip/>
There is one thing, though, that sets EA apart from competitors like Activision but hasn't been mentioned in the context of "worst company" (OK, let's say "bad company"). These other companies manage to turn a profit. EA, on the other hand, does NOT, and insists that rampant piracy has hit it so hard that it has been forced to investigate new revenue streams like Day One DLC and micro-transaction schemes.

I'm skeptical and here's why: If I go peruse EA's financials, I see these numbers:

2011 FY Gross Profit Margin:   59.8%
2011 FY Net Profit Margin:        -4.5% (yep, you read that right - negative 4.5%)

Revenue per Employee: $505,659
Average Revenue per Employee, Industry Sector: $15,015,580

Cost of acquisitions, last 5 years: $1,067,000 (10% of gross profit)

So... Can we agree that, while this is certainly the profile of a company with a problem, the problem is NOT with its revenue stream?

It's incredible, really. Last year, EA couldn't manage to eke out a dime of net profit off a whopping gross margin of 60%. (For comparison, IBM's was 51%.) In fact, EA hasn't been profitable since 2007. It lost $276 million last year, $677 million in 2010, and $1.1 billion in 2009. Its revenue per employee is one third of the average across its industry peers, indicating far too large a workforce. It spent a full 10% of its gross profit over the last 5 years on game company acquisitions, with no visible benefit at all to its miserable bottom line.

Can anybody legitimately claim that what this company needs is new revenue streams? I'd contend it much more desperately needs new management.

The worst? I don't know. But, even from a basic accounting perspective, much, much worse than its peers.
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HA HA HA.

#70439
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Computim wrote...

That was awesome Image IPB

Bioware could have avoided ALL of this if they had taken the time to just give us this sort of epilogue... honestly... and it really makes me hope that if this IS what they give us, that I can accept it and let go of the upset that I've had the last month... it's almost like a bad breakup, I don't want to forgive, but it's not like Bioware cares if I do or don't and I need to for my own sanity and mental health. Image IPB


Honestly, now I don't want this kind of thing anymore. It should have been included in the game from the beginning. And there are too many plotholes and lack of choices for me to accept any of this...epilogues. 
Plus we already got a fan-made one. Why would I need an "official" one? <_<

#70440
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CitizenSnips28 wrote...

frypan wrote...


Haha well I'm from the US state of Idaho which has a wicked low population density. Literally work on the family farm, though yeah that's not Antarctica low. :P Still I actually bumped into someone who lived about thirty miles away in here, which was pretty cool given said low population density.


Yeah strange coincidences here too - moved here a few years ago and only just met up with some gamers, all of whom  were pretty disgusted by the ending to ME3 by the way. Gave us something to talk about though when breaking the ice, so some good came of this.

Lots of Australia is like Idaho - huge amounts of space with small towns. Tassie is a bit different because the terrain can be pretty rugged and wild- they filmed Walking With Dinosaurs in parts of the state where the landscape is so bizarre looking. Might have to get off the xbox and go take a look while waiting for a fix to ME3 (said hopefully)

#70441
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TamiBx wrote...

 Now this made me tear up a little :crying:

http://img585.images...7/motiv2389.jpg

Oh no here come the tears...
Mordin was such a role model for me in ME2. He actually really changed my outlook on life. His death had me crying for two days straight.

#70442
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TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/


Just did it and it made snese :P My shepard recovers and gets to embrace Miranda after he arrives at the docks where she is waiting to then have that become the Iconic embrace after the Reaper Invasion....awesome....why couldnt they do that?! :huh:

*Edit*
While it may help alil the whole Space MAgic is still dumb :wizard:

*Edit*
Actually the more I make the story stuff the more it just looks like a crappy epilogue to a crappy ending *Flips Table*

Modifié par Lord Costantino, 05 avril 2012 - 04:00 .


#70443
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SkaldFish wrote...

Posted this over on the "New Forbes Article" thread; thought folks here might find the information interesting:
--------------------------
<snip/>
There is one thing, though, that sets EA apart from competitors like Activision but hasn't been mentioned in the context of "worst company" (OK, let's say "bad company"). These other companies manage to turn a profit. EA, on the other hand, does NOT, and insists that rampant piracy has hit it so hard that it has been forced to investigate new revenue streams like Day One DLC and micro-transaction schemes.

I'm skeptical and here's why: If I go peruse EA's financials, I see these numbers:

2011 FY Gross Profit Margin:   59.8%
2011 FY Net Profit Margin:        -4.5% (yep, you read that right - negative 4.5%)

Revenue per Employee: $505,659
Average Revenue per Employee, Industry Sector: $15,015,580

Cost of acquisitions, last 5 years: $1,067,000 (10% of gross profit)

So... Can we agree that, while this is certainly the profile of a company with a problem, the problem is NOT with its revenue stream?

It's incredible, really. Last year, EA couldn't manage to eke out a dime of net profit off a whopping gross margin of 60%. (For comparison, IBM's was 51%.) In fact, EA hasn't been profitable since 2007. It lost $276 million last year, $677 million in 2010, and $1.1 billion in 2009. Its revenue per employee is one third of the average across its industry peers, indicating far too large a workforce. It spent a full 10% of its gross profit over the last 5 years on game company acquisitions, with no visible benefit at all to its miserable bottom line.

Can anybody legitimately claim that what this company needs is new revenue streams? I'd contend it much more desperately needs new management.

The worst? I don't know. But, even from a basic accounting perspective, much, much worse than its peers.
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Well their biggest beef is Gamestop..  15% of their revenue last year according to their 10-Q.. which means that the company who is their biggest customer is also their biggest competitor through the Used Games market and Gamestop's Impulse sales platform which directly competes with Origin.

It's part of why they're pushing Origin so much, they want to get to the point where they control the distribution to end user market so they can set the prices and control the DRM/Used sales, and not have to worry about competition... and we thought they couldn't get more 'evil' by internet standards lol... I guarantee if EA thought they could afford it they'd lock used games out entirely and you would only be able to buy through Origin.. but they can't and they'd lose too much money doing that.

So for now we have an uneasy calm.. We're gonna wake up one day and realize the rEApers have taken over though. Image IPB

#70444
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TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/


OoO *is utterly speechless at the awesomeness of it*

#70445
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TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/

That was interesting.

#70446
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Lord Costantino wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/


Just did it and it made snese :P My shepard recovers and gets to embrace Miranda after he arrives at the docks where she is waiting to then have that become the Iconic embrace after the Reaper Invasion....awesome....why couldnt they do that?! :huh:

*Edit*
While it may help alil the whole Space MAgic is still dumb :wizard:


Exactly. I have a problem with Space Magic :wizard:
Honestly, don't need an epilogue like this from Bioware; a fan already made it. Now, can we get real content, Bioware? <_<


Edit: holy, I can't spell. I guess I'm tired 

Modifié par TamiBx, 05 avril 2012 - 04:01 .


#70447
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TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

That was awesome Image IPB

Bioware could have avoided ALL of this if they had taken the time to just give us this sort of epilogue... honestly... and it really makes me hope that if this IS what they give us, that I can accept it and let go of the upset that I've had the last month... it's almost like a bad breakup, I don't want to forgive, but it's not like Bioware cares if I do or don't and I need to for my own sanity and mental health. Image IPB


Honestly, now I don't want this kind of thing anymore. It should have been included in the game from the beginning. And there are too many plotholes and lack of choices for me to accept any of this...epilogues. 
Plus we already got a fan-made one. Why would I need an "official" one? <_<


Yay! The fan-made epilogue gave me my happy ending with Kaidan :D

Unfortunately, it involved some retconning, and they totally made up the thing about the Normandy getting blasted towards the relay. Seriously, there is no reasonable explanation for the Normandy to be out there. Alone too, if it was like a whole freaking fleet maybe that would've made more sense. Also the squadmates leaving Earth is still unreasonable to me.

#70448
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I just did 3 edits on my post above...the Epilgoue is nothing but to help explain crappy plot holes and space Magic...still something though

#70449
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WeezX527 wrote...

I was checking my E-mail and received an advertisement from Impulse/GameStop. For Mass Effect 3 the description said "The epic conclusion to gaming’s seminal scif­i trilogy will leave you breathless. Ignore what you’ve read on the Internet and dive head first into one of the best games of the year. It’s not about the destination, it’s about the journey" I found that funny for some reason.


LOL.  As I've said before many times, anyone trying to claim "it's about the destination, not the journey" automatically conceeds that the destination sucks big donkey balls.  And sorry genius, when people have invested 100+ hours and been made all kinds of illustrious promises about the ending, it actually becomes a little important.

#70450
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SSV Auckland Reporting In.

Hey guys. Guess nothing has happened in the last 12 hours? no? nah didn't think so.

SO what it's a day till PAX now eh? any word on the LiveStream they were wroking on?

Holding the Line!