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DJBare

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Nharia1 wrote...
@ Mr Bond
Ever thought about maybe including FanFics that rewrite the endings on your epic list of links?

Indeed I had thought about it, but I'm also attempting to keep the list from getting too long, were I the one on the recieving end of this list I'm pretty sure I'd begin to get irritated by it popping up every so many pages, so I'm attempting to be moderate with it.

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infinitekilan wrote...

Hopefully they understand exactly how tight of a rope they are walking right now, and proceed accordingly. If they truly care about their work, or their fans, they will do the right thing.

On a side note, after doing some research into EA's business practices, I am fully convinced that they are to blame for how bad the endings were. Impossible deadlines and inhuman amounts of hours put into each work week can destroy even the simplest of projects.


EA was already voted the worst company in America by the Consumerist.
I'm sure they're well aware how small of a rope they have lol.

Modifié par Fox544, 05 avril 2012 - 04:39 .


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OK, guys. Off to bed. Always a pleasure to be among such nice people.

Hold the line!

#70479
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See, even though I think that the fan made epilogue was awesome, it does not fix the ending, explain plotholes or help us get over it anymore than the game itslef did.

Yes, seeing that fan-made epilogue generator has confirmed that my problems with the ending have very little to do with "closure" or "clarity." The entire last five minutes (after collapsing at the control panel) would need to be scrapped and rewritten. I see no way to fix it as it exists now. To make a truly amazing ending, the whole Priority: Earth mission would also need to be reworked to show off how your various war assets are making a difference in the fight. I don't see them making either of those changes. So, I fully expect to be disappointed with what they announce on Friday.

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Fox544 wrote...

infinitekilan wrote...

Hopefully they understand exactly how tight of a rope they are walking right now, and proceed accordingly. If they truly care about their work, or their fans, they will do the right thing.

On a side note, after doing some research into EA's business practices, I am fully convinced that they are to blame for how bad the endings were. Impossible deadlines and inhuman amounts of hours put into each work week can destroy even the simplest of projects.


EA was already voted the worst company in America by the Consumerist.
I'm sure they're well aware how small of a rope they have lol.


Doubtful. Did you see their response to being voted the worst company in America? 

"We're sure that British Petroleum, AIG, Philip Morris, and Halliburton
are all relieved they weren't nominated this year. We're going to
continue making award-winning games and services played by more than 300
million people worldwide.”

They essentially said "lolwutevar"

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Fox544 wrote...
EA was already voted the worst company in America by the Consumerist.
I'm sure they're well aware how small of a rope they have lol.

The only people who really take that seriously are the ones who wanted BofA to get the prize and I understand their reasoning, but in the industry it's a gag a joke.

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CDHarrisUSF wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

See, even though I think that the fan made epilogue was awesome, it does not fix the ending, explain plotholes or help us get over it anymore than the game itslef did.


Yes, seeing that fan-made epilogue generator has confirmed that my problems with the ending have very little to do with "closure" or "clarity." The entire last five minutes (after collapsing at the control panel) would need to be scrapped and rewritten. I see no way to fix it as it exists now. To make a truly amazing ending, the whole Priority: Earth mission would also need to be reworked to show off how your various war assets are making a difference in the fight. I don't see them making either of those changes. So, I fully expect to be disappointed with what they announce on Friday.


Exactly. I don't care what happened after I talked to Ghost Kid; everything made no sense. It doesn't explain anything. And I'm almost certain that they won't fix anything, but just clarify it...
The more I think about it, the worse I feel...:crying:

#70483
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I'd like a ending that makes sense.Where not everyone dies.Where multiplayer doesn't affect single player.Where squadmates don't suddenly pop out of the normandy when last seen they were with you getting shot by a big steel cuttlefish.To parapharse Tom Clancy"Fiction,unlike real life,has to make sense to the reader."ME3 did not make any sense.Space magic is a kiddie toy.Image IPBThey want us to take ME as an adult series and throw StarChild at us at the last second.

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Fox544 wrote...

infinitekilan wrote...

Hopefully they understand exactly how tight of a rope they are walking right now, and proceed accordingly. If they truly care about their work, or their fans, they will do the right thing.

On a side note, after doing some research into EA's business practices, I am fully convinced that they are to blame for how bad the endings were. Impossible deadlines and inhuman amounts of hours put into each work week can destroy even the simplest of projects.


EA was already voted the worst company in America by the Consumerist.
I'm sure they're well aware how small of a rope they have lol.


Yes, but the underlieing question is; Do you think they care??
I dont..

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TamiBx wrote...

CDHarrisUSF wrote...
*snip*


Exactly. I don't care what happened after I talked to Ghost Kid; everything made no sense. It doesn't explain anything. And I'm almost certain that they won't fix anything, but just clarify it...
The more I think about it, the worse I feel...:crying:


I agree with you both, I thought in ME3 everything was fine up til you met the star child....after that it was more of a "huh...wtf is going on?...I am so confused :blink:" then they decided to make us more confused with Joker f-ing off with your crew to the land of OZ...*sigh* I really hope they fix it, clarifying it is pretty much them saying

"Yeah you guys are all stupid for not understanding our "art" so we will just clarify it and hope you don't notice, morons"

Though I do not count myself to be very smart I am not THAT stupid.

Edit: Typos

Modifié par xHezz90, 05 avril 2012 - 04:56 .


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@Computim

Here, there is an article about those glasses ;)

http://gamerant.com/...es-robk-141941/

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xHezz90 wrote...

I agree with you both, I though in ME3 everything was fine up til you met the star child....after that it was more of a "huh...wtf is going on?...I am so confused :blink:" then they decided to make us more confused with Joker f-ing off with your crew to the land of OZ...*sigh* I really hope they fix it, clarifying it is pretty much them saying

"Yeah you guys are all stupid for not understanding out "art" so we will just clarify it and hope you don't notice, morons"

Though I do not count myself to be very smart I am not THAT stupid.


Are you sure? For all you know their standard of "intellegence" could be much higher than your own, which could, in their minds, make  you "stupid"

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TamiBx wrote...

@Computim

Here, there is an article about those glasses ;)

http://gamerant.com/...es-robk-141941/


...Must HAS!!!!!!

*edit*
http://www.soshichan...33159862915.jpg

Modifié par Lord Costantino, 05 avril 2012 - 04:56 .


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TamiBx

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Nharia1 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I agree with you both, I though in ME3 everything was fine up til you met the star child....after that it was more of a "huh...wtf is going on?...I am so confused :blink:" then they decided to make us more confused with Joker f-ing off with your crew to the land of OZ...*sigh* I really hope they fix it, clarifying it is pretty much them saying

"Yeah you guys are all stupid for not understanding out "art" so we will just clarify it and hope you don't notice, morons"

Though I do not count myself to be very smart I am not THAT stupid.


Are you sure? For all you know their standard of "intellegence" could be much higher than your own, which could, in their minds, make  you "stupid"


If the ending of a video game must be explained in details to more than 10 people, then there is something really wrong with it...just sayin...:whistle:

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Nharia1 wrote...

Are you sure? For all you know their standard of "intellegence" could be much higher than your own, which could, in their minds, make  you "stupid"


You make a good point....but that would make nearly 60,000 of their own fans equally as stupid and I just don't buy that.

I have no doubt that they are smarter than myself, but I'm not alone in this so it's not me it's them :D

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Lord Costantino wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

@Computim

Here, there is an article about those glasses ;)

http://gamerant.com/...es-robk-141941/


...Must HAS!!!!!!

*edit*
http://www.soshichan...33159862915.jpg


This ^ image is me trying to convince Bioware to give us a new ending. Seriously, just remake the whole ending and charge us. There, tons of money, and a little happier fans. <_<


EDIT: actually, when I went to test the video game my school is making yesterday, they made me wear these fancy glasses with a camera and microphone, so they could record me playing it. It was cool B)

Modifié par TamiBx, 05 avril 2012 - 05:00 .


#70492
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infinitekilan wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

infinitekilan wrote...

Hopefully they understand exactly how tight of a rope they are walking right now, and proceed accordingly. If they truly care about their work, or their fans, they will do the right thing.

On a side note, after doing some research into EA's business practices, I am fully convinced that they are to blame for how bad the endings were. Impossible deadlines and inhuman amounts of hours put into each work week can destroy even the simplest of projects.


EA was already voted the worst company in America by the Consumerist.
I'm sure they're well aware how small of a rope they have lol.


Doubtful. Did you see their response to being voted the worst company in America? 

"We're sure that British Petroleum, AIG, Philip Morris, and Halliburton
are all relieved they weren't nominated this year. We're going to
continue making award-winning games and services played by more than 300
million people worldwide.”

They essentially said "lolwutevar"


Also notice they had no responce to the Consumerist's rebuttal or the Forbes article detailing why they're hated? EA can play it off all they want but in the ending its a pure act for the shareholders.

Modifié par Fox544, 05 avril 2012 - 05:00 .


#70493
Nharia1

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TamiBx wrote...

@Computim

Here, there is an article about those glasses ;)

http://gamerant.com/...es-robk-141941/


Wow... If those actually do what that vid showed they could do... OoO

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Lord Costantino wrote...

Hopefully they understand exactly how tight of a rope they are walking right now, and proceed accordingly. If they truly care about their work, or their fans, they will do the right thing.

On a side note, after doing some research into EA's business practices, I am fully convinced that they are to blame for how bad the endings were. Impossible deadlines and inhuman amounts of hours put into each work week can destroy even the simplest of projects.


I think the root of the overall problem is the corporate culture over at EA. The mindset and thinking of the top corporate executives always trickles down to the lower levels. Before Bioware became part of EA their culture was orientated towards create quality game with a lot of depth and great writing. The problem right now is that the culture over at EA is concerned completely with obtaining my maximum profit with the least amount of effort. Now that they have been part of EA awhile we are seeing the parents company culture taking hold within the child.

I have read Ray Muzyka stating that Bioware is still in full control of their decisions and creative process, and I don't doubt that he believes it, but whether or not they realize it they are being converted over to EA's way of think. This in turn affects their day to day decisions. As much as we joke about the rEApers and Bioware being indoctrinated, it is not far from the truth. Except instead of advanced technology doing it, it's being done by corporate culture.

Modifié par gorgoth, 05 avril 2012 - 05:00 .


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TamiBx wrote...

This ^ image is me trying to convince Bioware to give us a new ending. Seriously, just remake the whole ending and charge us. There, tons of money, and a little happier fans. <_<



Ikr...I would propably buy it as my last purchase to Bioware but hey I get my ending and I am gone :P unless DA3 is a gift from God....which I dont see happening but still always hope...but I want those glasses!!! I would look BA in my suits with that on! :D

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By the way they love that fan-made epilogue generator over at the Ashley fan forum. Thanks for the link to that.

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TamiBx wrote...

 Did you guys see this? (apologies if you've seen it)
It's like an unofficial epilogue slide (fan made)

http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/

Wow, that's suprisingly good.  Thank you for sharing!

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http://www.cinemable...t-3-41139.html

An article about how EA used child's play to promote Battlefield DLC. So basically it was allowed to promote a third-party cause while Retake Mass Effect was not.

I know that we were using it as a form of protest and EA was not, but it is still a third party cause, and that is exactly why our charity was shut down.

Modifié par MisterP146, 05 avril 2012 - 05:04 .


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By the way about bioware and EA, the guy who made that ending nerd rage 39 minute video has a new one up about EA. he explains why the shift.

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Been thinking ...
... how do Joker and a same sex LI get to the Stargazer scene?

Just sayin'