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#70701
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firstarioch wrote...

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The ending "we" want? How amusing.


i had been doing some investigative journalism and infiltrated the "Retake movement".

On their facebook things and BSN groups, they would always post links to online polls about EA, BioWare and ME3 specifically, in an attempt to rally the masses and corrupt the results. They even post instructions on how to vote multiple times, by clearing the cache and other nefarious means. They do this to give the illusion that more people are angry than is actually the case.

In the words of Pitne For, they're a scummy bunch, even by gamer standards. The amount of people that asked for their money back when the Child's Play charity decided to distance themselves from the movement, was appalling.

I've also read a lot of Mass Effect fan-fiction, and the thought of the most rabid fans dictating BioWare's creative policies is terrifying. Don't forget these are the same people that protested when BioWare made the official female Shepard a blonde, with such constructive complaints as "she looks like a space Barbie" and "she'll be too concerned with her nails to worry about the Reapers".

I'm glad that BioWare have apparently grown a spine, and will not totally succumb to the pressure applied by the most rabid fans.


Hello Jason Bourne

Well done trying to go with a Mega corporation which gazzilions and stifles creativity instead of people who support it who buy their product. They really care about you.
It not clear cut that we simply dont buy them if we dont want them.
We were promised something else simple as that and there is symbiotic relationship between dev and their audiece.
if you cant get it that I cant do nothing for you.
We are living in 21st century not in 80s when Nintendo and other used to ply us with crap and we had to swallow it.
Gaming is big buisness 34 bln a year and rising.
It no "art" its not "creativity" or entitlemnt .I paid good money for my product And its not fir for purpose.
simple as that.



You're free to protest and complain all you like. Just expect to be exposed when you resort to such devious tactics as you have been. 

The Retake movement is not as large as it is claimed, and is documented as doing everything it can to make itself appear bigger.

#70702
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DJBare wrote...

You know the drill folks.


Sorry I didn't mean to reply to the bridge dweller, I just can't stand them

Won't happen again Mr Bond, sorry! :innocent:

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This topic moves forward soo fast. Didn't see this video link when I was trying to see what has happened since i went to sleep. Sorry if this was already linked.


Still lurking here and holding the line. Thou starting to loose hope... Luckily there is something else to look forward to. Cd Projekt is having conference today 5:00 PM GMT.

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xHezz90 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

You know the drill folks.


Sorry I didn't mean to reply to the bridge dweller, I just can't stand them

Won't happen again Mr Bond, sorry! :innocent:


Awwww... 

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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Berty213 wrote...
I'm feeling hopeful for PAX, I can't help but think Bioware has got some big plan ;)


I can't help but think BioWare has got some big plan for trolling us...

We'll find out tomorrow Image IPB

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Ignore him , he is trying to bait and derail thread... that is all. No, true base to stand on, drag the other party into a mud slinging match... don't take the bait.

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Tebjorn wrote...

This topic moves forward soo fast. Didn't see this video link when I was trying to see what has happened since i went to sleep. Sorry if this was already linked.


Still lurking here and holding the line. Thou starting to loose hope... Luckily there is something else to look forward to. Cd Projekt is having conference today 5:00 PM GMT.


Do they have a live stream? I love "The Witcher" series!

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blacqout wrote...
xxx....


1) I read only the bsn main thread.
2) I do not make multiple vote on polls. I am one, if the majority of the fans liked the ending i will be the first one not joining the movement.
3) About donation, the people of the movement who have withdrawed money had sayd that they've give those money to other donation project, i do not truly know.
4) I do not care about Female shepard official blonde, she can look like a barbie, i really don't care about this.

So... even with my "crappy" english... i would like to know blacquot what you're doing ... are you trying to help this thread or trying to shut it down? :mellow:
Each one should have it's opinion/comments/ideas about ME series... we do not want to change the endings, we want at least alternate endings, we've already said that having a dlc with the endings will do too, after all some Fans have liked the actual ends. :mellow:

#70710
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Impossibru wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Impossibru wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Blahblah...


Oh i know you :-) i read what you wrote in other threads! You have thousands of degrees and also help the coach of Chelsea or something.. 

Awesome! 

This is going to be good. 


I have three degrees, and occasionally email my tactical advice to the head coach of Chelsea football club. I don't suspect he does anything with it, but at least i can say i did my part.


How modest, don't forget that you are also a genious! 


Well, yeah. 

It's clear that the Retake movement is interested in one thing: getting its way. It is not interested in the thoughts of equally massive Mass Effect fans that happen to have enjoyed the ending. 

What it is interested in is having its back scratched by other members. You wish to live in a bubble, where only those that will reaffirm your feelings dwell. It's kind of sad. 

However, as someone else pointed out Okeer's advice a little earlier, i will add as a closing statement that it is humourus that BioWare are doing that exact thing to the Retake movement. 

I sincirely hope you all enjoy your added clarification, that will be dispensed via paid DLC.

Dasvidania.

#70711
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Interesting point that I hadn't picked up on, apparently the ME twitter account has deleted the post saying that the ending won't be changed. Can anyone confirm this?

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Going little offtopic but yes they will have a livestream. GoG.com and their facebook site is going to stream it.

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Don't feed the trolls.

#70714
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Goikiu wrote...
*snip* 
1) I read only the bsn main thread.
2) I do not make multiple vote on polls. I am one, if the majority of the fans liked the ending i will be the first one not joining the movement.
3) About donation, the people of the movement who have withdrawed money had sayd that they've give those money to other donation project, i do not truly know.
4) I do not care about Female shepard official blonde, she can look like a barbie, i really don't care about this.

So... even with my "crappy" english... i would like to know blacquot what you're doing ... are you trying to help this thread or trying to shut it down? :mellow:
Each one should have it's opinion/comments/ideas about ME series... we do not want to change the endings, we want at least alternate endings, we've already said that having a dlc with the endings will do too, after all some Fans have liked the actual ends. :mellow:

 

Ignore  him... please. The only thing  he is trying to do is derail the thread.. that is all. 

#70715
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Find below some important links you may want to follow.

Kotaku Power 40

***Attention*** Mass Effect Survey Scam


Alternative forum(if required) courtesy of Cybermortis

Polls
How bad was the ending?
Since we're getting paid DLC, is it enough for Bioware to just "clarify"?
Poll About Your reaction on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?

Provide Bioware with your feedback
Leave your feedback on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement from 21st March 2012
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread

Bioware's Promises pre-game release and their PR response analysed
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***

Retake Mass Effect Movement Resources
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics

Retake Mass Effect Movement
Audio Interview with the Organizer of RetakeME3
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
PAX East Platoon
Adamantium93, So about those "Insightful' and "Philosophical" endings...
HoldTheLine, A website who's main asset is a forum which has gone to great length to unify the community.
Retakemasseffect.org, This is a resource site with fun things like daily initiatives (like an N7 avatar generator)

to get people involved.


Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
@RetakeME3

Latest News
"Mass Effect 3" Ending: Did Fan Protests Cause EA Stock Price To Drop?
Giant Bomb, Sticking the Landing
Forbes, The Real Precedent Being Set By Mass Effect 3 Protests
Forbes, Six Reasons Why Changing The Mass Effect 3 Ending Won't Threaten Its 'Artistic Integrity'
Killer Kittens from Mars, Charity sees the need, not the cause - German proverb

International Business Times, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: Disappointed Fans Send Bioware 402 Cupcakes In Protest
California Literary Review, Reaping the Harvest of Poor Choices
Fprbes, Mass Effect 3 Protesters Sending Cupcakes to Bioware
Forbes, Why Most Websites Have to Make Nice to the Industry
Forbes, New Ending Setting Precedence?
Forbes, Commander Shepard Actor Mark Meer Weighs In On Mass Effect 3 Ending And DLC
Forbes on indoctrination theory
Forbes reports on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement
Forbes, Why Child's Play Stopped Taking Donations From Retake Mass Effect
Forbes, Further Thoughts on Mass Effect 3's Ending and Future DLC
Forbes, Mass Effect 3 And Corporate Influence Over Commercial Art
CVG, Mass Effect 3: 86% think BioWare blew the ending
BBC news technology section
Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
GotGame, The
customer is always right.

NY Daily News about Retake Mass Effect
The Telegraph in UK reporting about our movement
The wall street journal, Why the Ending of Mass Effect 3 Started a Furor
IBT, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: ‘The New Yorker’ Weighs In On Fan Protests

Videos
G4TV, Feedback: Mass Effect 3 Ending Controversy
Mass Effect 3: Never ending nightmare.
Jim Sterling gets it!
he Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Retake Mass Effect - A Character Tribute
I Am the Very Model of a Mass Effect Enthusiast (SPOILERS)
Global EDMONTON, Cupcake protest against Mass Effect 3
RetakeMassEffect - Fan Testimonies
Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Archengeia number 1, Mass Effect 3 Ending: My Thoughts, What Could Have Been, What Should Have Been
Archengeia number 2, Mass Effect 3: My Thoughts, Continued; Potential, Illusive Man, and Cerberus
Archengeia number 3, Mass Effect 3: Responses to Comments, The Importance of Choice, and The Indoctrination Theory
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 1
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 2

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#70716
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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Berty213 wrote...
I'm feeling hopeful for PAX, I can't help but think Bioware has got some big plan ;)


I can't help but think BioWare has got some big plan for trolling us...


Maybe, but I'm not ready to stop believing in them yet, EA is the main reason that Bioware has gone down hill, but I think there is still a spark of the old bioware in them ;)

#70717
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Phoenix NL wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Berty213 wrote...
I'm feeling hopeful for PAX, I can't help but think Bioware has got some big plan ;)


I can't help but think BioWare has got some big plan for trolling us...

We'll find out tomorrow Image IPB


*ominous music*
Indeed we will. Indeed we will...
*thunder crack*

#70718
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[quorabid fans. [/quote]

Hello Jason Bourne

Well done trying to go with a Mega corporation which gazzilions and stifles creativity instead of people who support it who buy their product. They really care about you.
It not clear cut that we simply dont buy them if we dont want them.
We were promised something else simple as that and there is symbiotic relationship between dev and their audiece.
if you cant get it that I cant do nothing for you.
We are living in 21st century not in 80s when Nintendo and other used to ply us with crap and we had to swallow it.
Gaming is big buisness 34 bln a year and rising.
It no "art" its not "creativity" or entitlemnt .I paid good money for my product And its not fir for purpose.
simple as that.


[/quote]

You're free to protest and complain all you like. Just expect to be exposed when you resort to such devious tactics as you have been. 

The Retake movement is not as large as it is claimed, and is documented as doing everything it can to make itself appear bigger.

[/quote]

I cannot even argue with you. It either you do it on purpose to rile us up here which seems to be a case or you are pardon for expression a bit dense.
Please read how they closed our charity with corporate meddling just to cut us off from postive publicity.

http://www.cinemable...ct-3-41139.html

If you dont get what we try to do here at least read about behind the closed doors machinations to kill us off.
If you still dont get it than this chat with you is over.

#70719
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Tebjorn wrote...

Going little offtopic but yes they will have a livestream. GoG.com and their facebook site is going to stream it.

Excellent, good find!

#70720
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If anyone wants to make an ending DLC it would be EA in my opinion.
EA wants money and there is money to be made from this DLC.

EDIT: Thanks for the link Tebjorn

Modifié par Impossibru, 05 avril 2012 - 10:37 .


#70721
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Phoenix NL wrote...

Tebjorn wrote...

Going little offtopic but yes they will have a livestream. GoG.com and their facebook site is going to stream it.

Excellent, good find!


Fantastic !!! 
4 30 edt. Which is what 7 30 gmt or 8 ..
cool !!!
well guys 24 hours left to see where we are at...

#70722
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Goikiu wrote...

blacqout wrote...
xxx....


1) I read only the bsn main thread.
2) I do not make multiple vote on polls. I am one, if the majority of the fans liked the ending i will be the first one not joining the movement.
3) About donation, the people of the movement who have withdrawed money had sayd that they've give those money to other donation project, i do not truly know.
4) I do not care about Female shepard official blonde, she can look like a barbie, i really don't care about this.

So... even with my "crappy" english... i would like to know blacquot what you're doing ... are you trying to help this thread or trying to shut it down? :mellow:
Each one should have it's opinion/comments/ideas about ME series... we do not want to change the endings, we want at least alternate endings, we've already said that having a dlc with the endings will do too, after all some Fans have liked the actual ends. :mellow:


I'm fluent in Italian, so we can finish the conversation in that language if you'd prefer. 

I do care about blonde Shepard. It was disgusting that BioWare allowed their creative policy to be dictated by misogny, and it is equally as disgusting that BioWare could allow their creative policity to be dictated by a crooked faction, like Retake.

My reasons for posting my findings are to ensure that the side of the story that Retake wishes to smother into silence, is heard.

Disagreeing with you does not make one a troll, and you will find that i have been far more polite than those slinging around words they really shouldn't be using.

#70723
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Please everyone, don't engage this guy. If these are truly his opinions he is entitled to them as are we to ours. We all know what's been happening on this thread so let's refocus on that.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Fix1o0 wrote...

*snip* 

Well, well, well. Look at this, James Bond is browsing the Bioware Social Network. You couldn't get more uptight of yourself if you tried.

Fool.

   

Remember the wise words of Okeer... 

aford you enemy the greatest insult, to be ignored... in other words... ignore him. 




Why do I recognize that name... :huh:

#70725
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blacqout wrote...

I'm fluent in Italian, so we can finish the conversation in that language if you'd prefer. 

I do care about blonde Shepard. It was disgusting that BioWare allowed their creative policy to be dictated by misogny, and it is equally as disgusting that BioWare could allow their creative policity to be dictated by a crooked faction, like Retake.

My reasons for posting my findings are to ensure that the side of the story that Retake wishes to smother into silence, is heard.

Disagreeing with you does not make one a troll, and you will find that i have been far more polite than those slinging around words they really shouldn't be using.


I have one simple thing to ask you...why are you posting your..."findings" here on this thread? this thread has nothing to do with Retake though we do agree with the movement. Why not post this on the Retake website or facebook or twitter or something? :?