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[Phoenix NL]

Jere85 wrote...

*ignores the current rabbles and just sighs*

Mmmh... i wish they had something like this in europe, or even better, Holland .
http://comicconmovie.com/
Jessica Merizan went there aswell to cosplay as Ashley, fun pics on twitter.

That would be good fun!

[Matt_gekko88]

Seems like I am not the only one sitting in the Netherlands right know.

[DJBare]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

I enjoyed the game pretty much. Although, this enjoyment was destroyed by Space Magic *hides cupcakes again*

I saw that!, keeping rations from the rest of the troops is a court martial offense, you are hearby sentenced to share your cupcake with me!

[-PG-Skyre]

blacqout wrote...

You are forgiven. I'm far more insulted by the way many of you think it okay to shun me as some kind of leper, when all i'm doing is expressing my thoughts and wishes for the future of the Mass Effect series -- and as pointed out already, doing so without resorting to the name calling that so many of you have stooped to. 

The Retake movement is acting as if it is entitled, under the strictest definitions of the word. You believe you are more entitled to additional content than those that enjoy the game as is. That's not necessarily a bad thing or an insult though. Those throwing the word around in a demeaning fashion are misusing it. 

I hope you can take some solace from that.

To your "entitled" argument-
"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
say any more than that…" - Mike Gamble

“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being
brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they
got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was
because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you
didn't make” - Mike Gamble

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.” - Casey Hudson

We do not believe we are entitled to different endings, we believe BioWare should hold up its end of the bargain. They sold the game on the premise of the above. Simply put, they walked into this and could have easily avoided this situation all together, but they instead made those statements are more about the ending, which clearly was anything other than what they said.

As for not name calling, you've remarked several times about posters here being neanderthalls and the such.
As they say, "A sharp tongue does not mean you have a keen mind". Most of us can read the vieled insults you leave in your comments.

[Phoenix NL]

Major Swift wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

SO anyone want to get back on topic? or is that just me?

The ending sucked, it made no sense and no amount of explaining will make us understand it.

Hoping again for new endings.

C'mon guys please get back on topic, we are not far from 3000 pages we have been doing so well.

(Psst someone help me out please *starts to pull out hair*)

No its not just you, and I hope to see a new ending that is a variation of the ending in my rewrite which will be finished later today, after all the references to a house on Rannoch since ME2 shepard should get the chance to live and be happy there with tali

It's a shame I can't get that link to the "unofficial endings" to work. I'm looking forward to what Bioware have to say, people like Mike Gamble have been hinting at so much so now I want to see what it is!

[silencemayday]

 anyone post the article with jennifer hales thoughts yet? i'm too lazy to go through the last pages, so here, just in case. 
http://www.ibtimes.c...ale-femshep.htm

and good morning btw. :>

[blacqout]

Atrocity wrote...

blacqout wrote...

The Retake movement is acting as if it is entitled, under the strictest definitions of the word. You believe you are more entitled to additional content than those that enjoy the game as is. That's not necessarily a bad thing or an insult though. Those throwing the word around in a demeaning fashion are misusing it. 

So you think that some players wanting content X is straight away from those who are indifferent towards content X or do not like it at all? You do realise this line of tought is as irrelevant as it is obvious? In every game which has DLC, some of the content will be such that some players do not want it.

For example: alternate costumes, more MP maps, additional characters etc.

Why is retake movement so different in your mind from those several MP players asking for a bigger map pool atm over at MP section? I personally am happy with the current maps, and would rather see new classes added and bugs fixed, yet I do not feel any need to campaign or speak against those who wish more maps, even though the development of those maps is away from resources that could be used to create things I want.

I should have said story-related DLC. Weapons and costumes require relatively little time or resources to create, and as far as i'm aware, a seperate team is working on the game's multiplayer. 

If some people are arguing for more maps to be created and you would prefer new classes added, why wouldn't you make your thoughts known? Too irrelevant and obvious, i suppose.

Story-related DLC typically appeals to those that, you know, liked the game's story. If BioWare decide to spend a lot of time and money creating a new ending, it will take away from what i want. And yes, i have every reason to make my thoughts heard.

[Atrocity]

Jere85 wrote...

Atrocity wrote...
One new BSN member asked me to post this, they can't because of the 24h rule:
youtu.be/A6TmTv6deTI

Thanks, i like his posts, havent checked this one out yet

I skimmed through it, and it consentrates on the differentiating business policies of EA and Bioware, and the results of such conflicts. Very true what he says about it.
In my wildest dreams the outcry the ending caused will have some impact on the big gamecompany monsters such as EA, but I know I'm delusional 

[Matt_gekko88]

DJBare wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

 *hides cupcakes again*

I saw that!, keeping rations from the rest of the troops is a court martial offense, you are hearby sentenced to share your cupcake with me!

Shaken or stirred?
Oh sorry. Wrong topic. 

Modifié par Matt_gekko88, 05 avril 2012 - 11:50 .

[Phoenix NL]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

*snip*
As for not name calling, you've remarked several times about posters here being neanderthalls and the such.
As they say, "A sharp tongue does not mean you have a keen mind". Most of us can read the vieled insults you leave in your comments.

Oh for the love of...... don't you start now! Please, ENOUGH already!

[Nharia1]

DJBare wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

I enjoyed the game pretty much. Although, this enjoyment was destroyed by Space Magic *hides cupcakes again*

I saw that!, keeping rations from the rest of the troops is a court martial offense, you are hearby sentenced to share your cupcake with me!

Hey what about me Mr. Bond, I am after all in charge of keeping the new recruits in line... I deserve some kind of reward now don't I? :happy:

[silencemayday]

has anyone been feeding the trolls again? come on guys, we talked about this!

can't leave you alone for a few hours, unbelievable... tzeh.

[toffeetrooper]

silencemayday wrote...

 anyone post the article with jennifer hales thoughts yet? i'm too lazy to go through the last pages, so here, just in case. 
http://www.ibtimes.c...ale-femshep.htm

and good morning btw. :>

hey your back were you been and don't try that i've got a life nonsence only mr connery has one of them

Modifié par toffeetrooper, 05 avril 2012 - 11:53 .

[blacqout]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

blacqout wrote...

You are forgiven. I'm far more insulted by the way many of you think it okay to shun me as some kind of leper, when all i'm doing is expressing my thoughts and wishes for the future of the Mass Effect series -- and as pointed out already, doing so without resorting to the name calling that so many of you have stooped to. 

The Retake movement is acting as if it is entitled, under the strictest definitions of the word. You believe you are more entitled to additional content than those that enjoy the game as is. That's not necessarily a bad thing or an insult though. Those throwing the word around in a demeaning fashion are misusing it. 

I hope you can take some solace from that.

To your "entitled" argument-
"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
say any more than that…" - Mike Gamble

“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being
brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they
got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was
because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you
didn't make” - Mike Gamble

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.” - Casey Hudson

We do not believe we are entitled to different endings, we believe BioWare should hold up its end of the bargain. They sold the game on the premise of the above. Simply put, they walked into this and could have easily avoided this situation all together, but they instead made those statements are more about the ending, which clearly was anything other than what they said.

As for not name calling, you've remarked several times about posters here being neanderthalls and the such.
As they say, "A sharp tongue does not mean you have a keen mind". Most of us can read the vieled insults you leave in your comments.

You also apparently believe that creative works are products like brooms and automobiles, and that they can be easily shown to not work to specification. That's not the case with Mass Effect 3, as should be evident by the way many people feel that everything did come to a resolution, and in many different ways depending on choices made. 

The Genophage story arc can be resolved in a multitude of different ways, for example. Casey's statement can reasonably be construed as accurate.

[DJBare]

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Polls
How bad was the ending?
Since we're getting paid DLC, is it enough for Bioware to just "clarify"?
Poll About Your reaction on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?

Provide Bioware with your feedback
Leave your feedback on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement from 21st March 2012
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread

Bioware's Promises pre-game release and their PR response analysed
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***

Retake Mass Effect Movement Resources
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
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Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
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Adamantium93, So about those "Insightful' and "Philosophical" endings...

HoldTheLine, A website who's main asset is a forum which has gone to great length to unify the community.
Retakemasseffect.org, This is a resource site with fun things like daily initiatives (like an N7 avatar generator) to get people involved.

Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
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Killer Kittens from Mars, Charity sees the need, not the cause - German proverb
International Business Times, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: Disappointed Fans Send Bioware 402 Cupcakes In Protest
California Literary Review, Reaping the Harvest of Poor Choices
Fprbes, Mass Effect 3 Protesters Sending Cupcakes to Bioware
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Forbes, Mass Effect 3 And Corporate Influence Over Commercial Art
CVG, Mass Effect 3: 86% think BioWare blew the ending


BBC news technology section
Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
GotGame, The
customer is always right.
NY Daily News about Retake Mass Effect
The Telegraph in UK reporting about our movement
The wall street journal, Why the Ending of Mass Effect 3 Started a Furor
IBT, ‘Mass Effect 3’ Ending: ‘The New Yorker’ Weighs In On Fan Protests

Videos
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Mass Effect 3: Never ending nightmare.
Jim Sterling gets it!
he Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Retake Mass Effect - A Character Tribute
I Am the Very Model of a Mass Effect Enthusiast (SPOILERS)
Global EDMONTON, Cupcake protest against Mass Effect 3
RetakeMassEffect - Fan Testimonies
Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)
Archengeia number 1, Mass Effect 3 Ending: My Thoughts, What Could Have Been, What Should Have Been
Archengeia number 2, Mass Effect 3: My Thoughts, Continued; Potential, Illusive Man, and Cerberus
Archengeia number 3, Mass Effect 3: Responses to Comments, The Importance of Choice, and The Indoctrination Theory
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 1
Smudboy, Mass Effect 3: Bookends of Destruction Part 2
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Hold the line!

[wicked_being]

isig wrote...

So, apparently, there is an official live stream channel of PAX East here: http://www.twitch.tv/pax

Is that drinking game still on? 

Wait what drinking game? Is this where we down a shot every time Bioware says something uh..."not nice" during the panel/ stream? By the time they're done, we all have passed out and saved ourselves from listeing to gibberish

If they said something nice while we're passed out, well...at least nursing a hangover the next day won't be too bad.

[Nidowa]

"Any potential DLC will maintain the artistic integrity of the game. Thanks for sharing your concerns and for playing Mass Effect!"

its funny this both disappoints me and infuriates me

[-PG-Skyre]

Phoenix NL wrote...
Oh for the love of...... don't you start now! Please, ENOUGH already!

Aww, want a hug?

Ok, back on topic then.
Not long guys. I'm fine if we don't get additonal ending content for a while, just so long as they will actually do it. I mean, I don't expect instantanious additonal content to answer all my questions...mainly cause I have a lot of questions...but still

[silencemayday]

toffeetrooper wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

 anyone post the article with jennifer hales thoughts yet? i'm too lazy to go through the last pages, so here, just in case. 
http://www.ibtimes.c...ale-femshep.htm

and good morning btw. :>

hey your back were you been and don't try that i've got a life nonsence only mr connery has one of them

aww, i was missed. that's new  
and nah, i'd never claim that i've got a life. but i've just been watching from the sidelines.. way too lazy to post and never have anything to contribute anyway.  

[DJBare]

Nharia1 wrote...
Hey what about me Mr. Bond, I am after all in charge of keeping the new recruits in line... I deserve some kind of reward now don't I? :happy:

My dear sargeant Nharia, you get to pick a color.

Modifié par DJBare, 05 avril 2012 - 11:57 .

[firstarioch]

Tomorrow people new ending is coming our way hopefully !!!
cant wait !!!

Beer and chips at 8 30 gmt ...whoever lives in Crystal Palace london let me know ...
maybe we can watch together !!!

[Nharia1]

DJBare wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...
Hey what about me Mr. Bond, I am after all in charge of keeping the new recruits in line... I deserve some kind of reward now don't I? :happy:

My dear sargeant Nahria, you get to pick a color.

Why do I have a bad feeling about this... Um... Black?

[silencemayday]

wicked_being wrote...
*snip*

Wait what drinking game? Is this where we down a shot every time Bioware says something uh..."not nice" during the panel/ stream? By the time they're done, we all have passed out and saved ourselves from listeing to gibberish

If they said something nice while we're passed out, well...at least nursing a hangover the next day won't be too bad.

ah yes, the drinking game. someone made quite a nice list of words for some sort of shot bingo. 
including 'speculation', 'vocal minority' and 'artistic integrity' or variations thereoff. 
may go back and have a look around for them. 

[toffeetrooper]

firstarioch wrote...

Tomorrow people new ending is coming our way hopefully !!!
cant wait !!!

Beer and chips at 8 30 gmt ...whoever lives in Crystal Palace london let me know ...
maybe we can watch together !!!

dont forget were in bst now, so its 9 30pm(bst) 

[Mattalix]

Nidowa wrote...

"Any potential DLC will maintain the artistic integrity of the game. Thanks for sharing your concerns and for playing Mass Effect!"

its funny this both disappoints me and infuriates me

Same, they think the artistic integrity of the game is good? honestly Bioware? you already broke the artistic integrity by offering us a broken ending.