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#70851
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-PG-Skyre wrote...

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Oh for the love of...... don't you start now! Please, ENOUGH already!


Aww, want a hug? :P

Ok, back on topic then.
Not long guys. I'm fine if we don't get additonal ending content for a while, just so long as they will actually do it. I mean, I don't expect instantanious additonal content to answer all my questions...mainly cause I have a lot of questions...but still :whistle:

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It would just be nice to get some answers fullstop!

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Nharia1 wrote...
*whispers again* Quick I need a tissue, my nose won't stop bleeding~! :whistle:
I'm still trying to figure out which of the council to leave alive for Shep to talk to, suggestions are welcome, and I need at least 2.  Oh I've got some good ones, that were written Pre ME3, most of them however are FemShep/Liara fluffs though, so I'm not sure how into those you are... :innocent:


hahaha! hmm...the Asari and the Turian would be good, the Salarian guy annoyed me lol.

Not so interested in Liara LI, might look up some FemShep/Kaidan ones for myself though :D

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silencemayday wrote...

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*snip*

Wait what drinking game? Is this where we down a shot every time Bioware says something uh..."not nice" during the panel/ stream? By the time they're done, we all have passed out and saved ourselves from listeing to gibberish :D

If they said something nice while we're passed out, well...at least nursing a hangover the next day won't be too bad.


ah yes, the drinking game. someone made quite a nice list of words for some sort of shot bingo. 
including 'speculation', 'vocal minority' and 'artistic integrity' or variations thereoff. 
may go back and have a look around for them. 


so after playing that game for what..... say 2 pages we would all be drunk and incapable of writing........

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Yeah honestly, take it from me....don't take that guy seriously.....he's a joke....he trolls nearly every relevant thread on these forums.....he stands alone.....do not entertain him

Just point and laugh

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toffeetrooper wrote...

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Tomorrow people new ending is coming our way hopefully !!!
cant wait !!!

Beer and chips at 8 30 gmt ...whoever lives in Crystal Palace london let me know ...
maybe we can watch together !!!


dont forget were in bst now, so its 9 30pm(bst) Image IPB


Damn ..you are right ...!!!..lol I would have started too early and by the time its actually going to be broadcasted i would be inebriated already !!!lol

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blacqout wrote...

You also apparently believe that creative works are products like brooms and automobiles, and that they can be easily shown to not work to specification. That's not the case with Mass Effect 3, as should be evident by the way many people feel that everything did come to a resolution, and in many different ways depending on choices made. 

The Genophage story arc can be resolved in a multitude of different ways, for example. Casey's statement can reasonably be construed as accurate.


That could work, provided they werent specifically talking about how ME3 would end (and the saga with it). I do not believe that games are produced "to spec", but I do believe that when you make comments like that to press (some just weeks before release), you should know if your product can match that statement.

The only explination I'd accept for them making statements like that but not keeping them is if they admitted that they didn't know how the game ended. Which would be a rather huge flaw for a business to have.

"resolution" - The part of a literary work in which the complications of the plot are resolved or simplified.
Normandy on a random planet?
Squad mates "teleporting" from Earth to the ship?
So many other plot holes and issues in the ending alone.

People who say the current ending does bring resolution, either aren't paying attention or don't know the meaning of the word. Not saying anything bad about people that like the ending (like yourself), but the current ending is in no way a "conclusion" or "resolution" in terms of literary work.

Modifié par -PG-Skyre, 05 avril 2012 - 12:04 .


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blacqout wrote...

I should have said story-related DLC. Weapons and costumes require relatively little time or resources to create, and as far as i'm aware, a seperate team is working on the game's multiplayer. 

If some people are arguing for more maps to be created and you would prefer new classes added, why wouldn't you make your thoughts known? Too irrelevant and obvious, i suppose.

Story-related DLC typically appeals to those that, you know, liked the game's story. If BioWare decide to spend a lot of time and money creating a new ending, it will take away from what i want. And yes, i have every reason to make my thoughts heard.

That's why I took my examples from inside the MP, not comparing SP and MP, since I am well aware they are handled by different dev teams.

And I am not making fuzz about what I want, merely saying it once or twice when I feel it to be necessary, since I believe game companies and devs make content according to what fans want and what sells. In the case of the ending of SP, there are at least ~ 50k-60k people who would like to see new content for it. That is a big number of fans making their request compared to the regular, normal number of people posting on feedback and suggestion threads and such. So there clearly is a want for this specific content. Will it be away from people who do not share this want? Maybe, maybe not, nothing quarantees people who do not want new ending would be getting something they want even if those resources were not used for the ending.

So while I respect your opinion and want for other story-related DLC, I do still question your intellectual honesty with this specific topic, since I do not believe you would be protesting if Bioware stated they are making Overlord 2 DLC, or any other story-related DLC than one concerning the ending, even if you wouldn't like the DLC's theme and story. I could be dead wrong of course, since obviously I know nothing about you good sir.

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wicked_being wrote...

Wait what drinking game? Is this where we down a shot every time Bioware says something uh..."not nice" during the panel/ stream? By the time they're done, we all have passed out and saved ourselves from listeing to gibberish :D

If they said something nice while we're passed out, well...at least nursing a hangover the next day won't be too bad.


Well, there was talk of a drinking game a few days ago, I believe (I've been lurking) and everyone agreed that it would probably lead to permanent liver damage if everyone took a sip of alcohol when someone from Bioware said the words "listening", "passionate", "clarification", "multiplayer", "omega" and such.. :D


So, it's probably best there isn't a live stream of the Bioware panel from PAX (as it turns out), since we'd all be pretty hammered by the time it's over..  ;)

Modifié par isig, 05 avril 2012 - 12:03 .


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silencemayday wrote...

wicked_being wrote...
*snip*

Wait what drinking game? Is this where we down a shot every time Bioware says something uh..."not nice" during the panel/ stream? By the time they're done, we all have passed out and saved ourselves from listeing to gibberish :D

If they said something nice while we're passed out, well...at least nursing a hangover the next day won't be too bad.


ah yes, the drinking game. someone made quite a nice list of words for some sort of shot bingo. 
including 'speculation', 'vocal minority' and 'artistic integrity' or variations thereoff. 
may go back and have a look around for them. 


Ahaha good idea! It's going to be 4:30am (Saturday) for me. This is gonna be fun :lol:

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Ahh, the true test of a soldiers resolve, the time of waiting is nearly over, it is now the longest day, time for more putting practice.

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hey sorry bit lost what's being announced concerning dlc? something being posted tomorrow? (I know it's prob here somewhere but so much to read though! lol)

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Rianne wrote...

hey sorry bit lost what's being announced concerning dlc? something being posted tomorrow? (I know it's prob here somewhere but so much to read though! lol)

we don't exactly know. it was said that there'll be an announcement regarding the ending(s) in april and tomorrow is the convention pax, which has a me3 panel. 
the current hope is that whatever they want to announce or say, will be said during pax tomorrow. 

but i'm just paraphrasing here. 


and as for the drinking: i'm totally game. 
a stream would still be nice though. not sure how the twitter feed will look. :/

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hehe, Welcome Rianne, yes tomorrow at PAX, this convention, Bioware will discuss Mass Effect, if there will actually be an announcement is unclear, but it would be smart for Bioware to do so. So we will wait and see.

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Rianne wrote...

hey sorry bit lost what's being announced concerning dlc? something being posted tomorrow? (I know it's prob here somewhere but so much to read though! lol)

Mike Gamble said that there was a lot that they had to discuss with us at PAX so I think we're all assuming we're going to hear something about DLC.

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toffeetrooper wrote...

so after playing that game for what..... say 2 pages we would all be drunk and incapable of writing........

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*nods in agreement with you* same here! Lol

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silencemayday wrote...

 anyone post the article with jennifer hales thoughts yet? i'm too lazy to go through the last pages, so here, just in case. 
http://www.ibtimes.c...ale-femshep.htm

and good morning btw. :>


Thanks - missed that one the last time I had a chance to get on to BSN... I'm beginning to think that this horrid thing called "work" may be interefering with my lurk time :?

Quick question to everyone - the Bioware team is on @ 4pm tomorrow in the US, so that would make it what, 9PM my time (we're GMT +2)...

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Seems like I am not the only one sitting in the Netherlands right know.

I wish I was back in the netherlands right now......

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oh good! about time too, lets hope its what we want to hear though!

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Yeah honestly, take it from me....don't take that guy seriously.....he's a joke....he trolls nearly every relevant thread on these forums.....he stands alone.....do not entertain him

Just point and laugh

 

don't even afford him that pleasure of being laughed at - that acknowledges his existience as something that deserves to paid attention too... which he is not.   

Back on Topic. 

Pax , 

I am not expecting much from Bioware at this point but that is not why I am here now. I'm here to make so that this type of the behavior by a  Developement  Team and Publisher  is shown to  be damaging to the brand name that no one else even thinks about it again.
 
DJbare is right this bigger than just the ME 3 ending this about how companies like EA/Bioware and Activison treat us as customers. They use to the term fan and a means discredit out power  as a consumer.  We are consumers first and fans second. Being so as consumers we should not stand from the chopping a product claiming its complete only to sell DLC at the ending. 

Hell the last words where "Please buy more DLC" not "Thanks you  for playing"  or  "The End, thanks for playing" then message back at the  main menu about DLC...  a last were we're " Please buy our DLC"    

I have never seen such blatant arrogance from a company before in my life. Bioware actually thinks that people will just buy anything from them because the "The fans love us"... NO - I reject that you should too.

We because they released a quality product that was worthy of that love.  

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ErMacPE wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

 anyone post the article with jennifer hales thoughts yet? i'm too lazy to go through the last pages, so here, just in case. 
http://www.ibtimes.c...ale-femshep.htm

and good morning btw. :>


Thanks - missed that one the last time I had a chance to get on to BSN... I'm beginning to think that this horrid thing called "work" may be interefering with my lurk time :?

Quick question to everyone - the Bioware team is on @ 4pm tomorrow in the US, so that would make it what, 9PM my time (we're GMT +2)...


4 30 (est) so 10 30(gmt+2)

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firstarioch wrote...

Tomorrow people new ending is coming our way hopefully !!!
cant wait !!!

Beer and chips at 8 30 gmt ...whoever lives in Crystal Palace london let me know ...
maybe we can watch together !!!

I would definitely join you but I need to be home in Bath this weekend Image IPB

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from ME twitter when someone asked them not to change the ending for the idiots (not exactly what he said but close) (they only reply to positive feedback)

'Any potential DLC will maintain the artistic integrity of the game. Thanks for sharing your concerns and for playing Mass Effect!'

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Major Swift wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

so after playing that game for what..... say 2 pages we would all be drunk and incapable of writing........

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*nods in agreement with you* same here! Lol

It would be funny to have a mass Skype session and just listen to people getting more and more drunk lol

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Phoenix NL wrote...

firstarioch wrote...

Tomorrow people new ending is coming our way hopefully !!!
cant wait !!!

Beer and chips at 8 30 gmt ...whoever lives in Crystal Palace london let me know ...
maybe we can watch together !!!

I would definitely join you but I need to be home in Bath this weekend Image IPB

Next time Phoenix NL...Next time....;)

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ErMacPE wrote...

Quick question to everyone - the Bioware team is on @ 4pm tomorrow in the US, so that would make it what, 9PM my time (we're GMT +2)...


GMT+2 should be 11 PM (I think).