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blacqout

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Atrocity wrote...

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I should have said story-related DLC. Weapons and costumes require relatively little time or resources to create, and as far as i'm aware, a seperate team is working on the game's multiplayer. 

If some people are arguing for more maps to be created and you would prefer new classes added, why wouldn't you make your thoughts known? Too irrelevant and obvious, i suppose.

Story-related DLC typically appeals to those that, you know, liked the game's story. If BioWare decide to spend a lot of time and money creating a new ending, it will take away from what i want. And yes, i have every reason to make my thoughts heard.

That's why I took my examples from inside the MP, not comparing SP and MP, since I am well aware they are handled by different dev teams.

And I am not making fuzz about what I want, merely saying it once or twice when I feel it to be necessary, since I believe game companies and devs make content according to what fans want and what sells. In the case of the ending of SP, there are at least ~ 50k-60k people who would like to see new content for it. That is a big number of fans making their request compared to the regular, normal number of people posting on feedback and suggestion threads and such. So there clearly is a want for this specific content. Will it be away from people who do not share this want? Maybe, maybe not, nothing quarantees people who do not want new ending would be getting something they want even if those resources were not used for the ending.

So while I respect your opinion and want for other story-related DLC, I do still question your intellectual honesty with this specific topic, since I do not believe you would be protesting if Bioware stated they are making Overlord 2 DLC, or any other story-related DLC than one concerning the ending, even if you wouldn't like the DLC's theme and story. I could be dead wrong of course, since obviously I know nothing about you good sir.


Well, Casey Hudson has said once or twice that there will be additional post-release content. Say BioWare planned to release three big mission add-ons, like they did with ME2. If one of those is spent on a new ending, then that's one less extra mission for me to enjoy. 

I have no real preference over what themes should be explored or what any additional content should be about, other than it shouldn't just rehash something we've already experienced in the game. I'd rather the resources be spent creating something totally new. 

I appreciate that there are some minor problems with the ending, but i was able to overcome them myself with a little extrapolation. I don't need or want BioWare to fill in the blanks i've already filled in myself.

Modifié par blacqout, 05 avril 2012 - 12:17 .


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so after playing that game for what..... say 2 pages we would all be drunk and incapable of writing........

im game Image IPB

*nods in agreement with you* same here! Lol

It would be funny to have a mass Skype session and just listen to people getting more and more drunk lol

Oh yes, hilarious <_<
*goes to corner and pouts*

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Quick question to everyone - the Bioware team is on @ 4pm tomorrow in the US, so that would make it what, 9PM my time (we're GMT +2)...


GMT+2 should be 11 PM (I think).


9 30 pm in UK ...BST

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Phoenix NL wrote...
It would be funny to have a mass Skype session and just listen to people getting more and more drunk lol


Haha I don't drink alcohol so I would just laugh at all you drunks, along with the underage people. We would have lots of giggles at you all hehe :)

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I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.




I would not pay more for something that was supposed to deliver what it didn't......Bait & Switch

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Atrocity wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

so after playing that game for what..... say 2 pages we would all be drunk and incapable of writing........

im game Image IPB

*nods in agreement with you* same here! Lol

It would be funny to have a mass Skype session and just listen to people getting more and more drunk lol

Oh yes, hilarious <_<
*goes to corner and pouts*

I wouldn't be drunk either but we could work on your documentary Image IPB

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firstarioch wrote...

isig wrote...

ErMacPE wrote...

Quick question to everyone - the Bioware team is on @ 4pm tomorrow in the US, so that would make it what, 9PM my time (we're GMT +2)...


GMT+2 should be 11 PM (I think).


9 30 pm in UK ...BST


The DA team is on before them so be around at 8:30 if you're interested in that.

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Im gonna stock up on popcorn, energy drinks and snacks and stuff, gotta be prepared for being online all night tomorrow, be back in a few.

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xHezz90 wrote...

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*whispers again* Quick I need a tissue, my nose won't stop bleeding~! :whistle:
I'm still trying to figure out which of the council to leave alive for Shep to talk to, suggestions are welcome, and I need at least 2.  Oh I've got some good ones, that were written Pre ME3, most of them however are FemShep/Liara fluffs though, so I'm not sure how into those you are... :innocent:


hahaha! hmm...the Asari and the Turian would be good, the Salarian guy annoyed me lol.

Not so interested in Liara LI, might look up some FemShep/Kaidan ones for myself though :D


That was the two that I was thinking of as well, since we seem to know more about how they would go about things than a Salarian...
I'll look to see what I can find... no garruntees though... damn my nose won't stop bleeding... ;) And yes it is actually bleeding but not from the pic, from my gf. she rolled over and smacke my nose so hard it started to bleed... ah well

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blacqout wrote...
I'm fluent in Italian, so we can finish the conversation in that language if you'd prefer. 

I do care about blonde Shepard. It was disgusting that BioWare allowed their creative policy to be dictated by misogny, and it is equally as disgusting that BioWare could allow their creative policity to be dictated by a crooked faction, like Retake.

My reasons for posting my findings are to ensure that the side of the story that Retake wishes to smother into silence, is heard.

Disagreeing with you does not make one a troll, and you will find that i have been far more polite than those slinging around words they really shouldn't be using.


Sorry, i was having launch.

I can write in english, so, as long as you understand you don't have to worry about me writing in italian ;)
I didn't knew bioware changed the original blonde "official" female char with the red-head we got, i've liked more the blonde one. (imho). :mellow:
I've followed the movement for some times, i cannot write much because i've got only a little time to give to the movement, i've give em a resource site, where i've posted polite words to every reader, same for who is into the movement, same for who's not. :mellow:
I never said you are/were troll or something like that. I am me, you are you, i've got my ideas, you've got yours. However i think that your "comments" so far about the movement not being polite can be true sometimes... we here... remember to each other people of the movement to stay civil and polite, but not all follow this... not all the people who haven't liked me3 have registered their copy here too. <_<
I'm in a little hurry now, i will try to reply some more to you if yourself are interested. :mellow: See Ya :mellow:

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@ toffeetrooper: Thankee sai kind person! My brain is ever so slightly melted at the moment... Just had to figure out how a forklift driver managed to skewer a PC in one of the warehouses...

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firstarioch wrote...
9 30 pm in UK ...BST



SO for me that would be 10:30am :D

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Major Swift wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

so after playing that game for what..... say 2 pages we would all be drunk and incapable of writing........

im game Image IPB

*nods in agreement with you* same here! Lol


I'll be high on sugar... I'm doing the game with Root beer since I'm 20 :pinched:

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http://east.paxsite....and-mass-effect

16.30 in Boston MA (EDT)
21.30 the UK (BST)

Has there been any confirmation of a livestream? 

Modifié par Syrin_, 05 avril 2012 - 12:23 .


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Nharia1 wrote...

That was the two that I was thinking of as well, since we seem to know more about how they would go about things than a Salarian...
I'll look to see what I can find... no garruntees though... damn my nose won't stop bleeding... ;) And yes it is actually bleeding but not from the pic, from my gf. she rolled over and smacke my nose so hard it started to bleed... ah well


Yeah that's very true you would be able to understand what the Asari and Turian would do.

You don't have to look lol, I can do it myself....though I could use a point in the right direction lol.
And ouch that must have hurt :mellow:

To everyone:
I think PAX will be 10:30am NZ but it will be like 7th April here...I think. I hate living in the future, it;s so confusing lol

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blacqout wrote...

Well, Casey Hudson has said once or twice that there will be additional post-release content. Say BioWare planned to release three big mission add-ons, like they did with ME2. If one of those is spent on a new ending, then that's one less extra mission for me to enjoy. 

I have no real preference over what themes should be explored or what any additional content should be about, other than it shouldn't just rehash something we've already experienced in the game. I'd rather the resources be spent creating something totally new. 

I appreciate that there are some minor problems with the ending, but i was able to overcome them myself with a little extroplation. I don't need or want BioWare to fill in the blanks i've already filled in myself.

I do not believe new endings DLC would mean that one of the already promised DLCs would be scrapped, but of course I can't be certain. I do encourage you to share your opinion with Bioware though, so they have the full picture of what customers want.

But now you have made your point across, we have listened, and still we disagree on almost every level, so in order to avoid any possible inconvienience, I'm politely asking you to leave this subject matter alone, since it will not result in anything usefull, and frankly I feel like continuing this, especially in a thread dedicated to only one side of the issue, would be impolite. Of course this request is concerns only this thread, I wouldn't dream of asking you to stop sharing your views via any other medium.

Modifié par Atrocity, 05 avril 2012 - 12:25 .


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ErMacPE wrote...

@ toffeetrooper: Thankee sai kind person! My brain is ever so slightly melted at the moment... Just had to figure out how a forklift driver managed to skewer a PC in one of the warehouses...


no worries.............. he saw the ending on the pc and just had to do it Image IPB

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Holding the line, while listening to music and easing articles online. Not like Bioware is consuming my free time with "art".

Modifié par Ohpus, 05 avril 2012 - 12:28 .


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blacqout wrote...
*snips due to annoyance*


While you're entitled to your own opinion, yours is most certainly not wanted here, would you please just leave this thread alone, so that we may go about our posting in peace without having to deal with you. You're starting annoy me more than I already was, and when I'm annoyed that usually doesn't end well for both parties, so just leave. Its the sesible thing to do, and you seem like a sensible person, you're beating on a dead horse right now, we've head your opinion, you don't have to continue on and on and on with your pointless tirades against the posters of this thread.

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im glad you guys are all so optimistic
:(
"Hope sustains organics during periods of difficulty. We… admire the concept."

i wish i was still hopfull about the ending, and i just wish i could talk to the people at bioware and ask them why they have destoryed ME, why they felt the need to be 'edgy' with the ending
why they felt the need to make people remember it when they were already setting themselve up to be THE sci fi of this generation

idk im rambling, just ive been hit by a sudden depresion when it comes to the endings today, i guess i give up, idk,
il still be watching the new, and the forums, but i guess it will likly be with ice cream near by

i kinda wish i never played ME now, and thats saying somthing becuase at least then id be able to enjoy my birthday this year :(


edit: can someone link me an australin fleet sig
(long time lurker only oficialy regged my game on the forums yesterday)

Modifié par Nidowa, 05 avril 2012 - 12:29 .


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Syrin_ wrote...

http://east.paxsite....and-mass-effect

16.30 in Boston MA (EDT)
21.30 the UK (BST)

Has there been any confirmation of a livestream? 


Twitch.tv are the only ones streaming at PAX afaik, but they're covering some other event while the panel is on:unsure:

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ErMacPE wrote...

@ toffeetrooper: Thankee sai kind person! My brain is ever so slightly melted at the moment... Just had to figure out how a forklift driver managed to skewer a PC in one of the warehouses...

Please tell me there's footage of that!

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Goikiu wrote...

blacqout wrote...
I'm fluent in Italian, so we can finish the conversation in that language if you'd prefer. 

I do care about blonde Shepard. It was disgusting that BioWare allowed their creative policy to be dictated by misogny, and it is equally as disgusting that BioWare could allow their creative policity to be dictated by a crooked faction, like Retake.

My reasons for posting my findings are to ensure that the side of the story that Retake wishes to smother into silence, is heard.

Disagreeing with you does not make one a troll, and you will find that i have been far more polite than those slinging around words they really shouldn't be using.


Sorry, i was having launch.

I can write in english, so, as long as you understand you don't have to worry about me writing in italian ;)
I didn't knew bioware changed the original blonde "official" female char with the red-head we got, i've liked more the blonde one. (imho). :mellow:
I've followed the movement for some times, i cannot write much because i've got only a little time to give to the movement, i've give em a resource site, where i've posted polite words to every reader, same for who is into the movement, same for who's not. :mellow:
I never said you are/were troll or something like that. I am me, you are you, i've got my ideas, you've got yours. However i think that your "comments" so far about the movement not being polite can be true sometimes... we here... remember to each other people of the movement to stay civil and polite, but not all follow this... not all the people who haven't liked me3 have registered their copy here too. <_<
I'm in a little hurry now, i will try to reply some more to you if yourself are interested. :mellow: See Ya :mellow:


I understand you perfectly; you write very well.

There was a big to-do over the Female Shepard's hair. BioWare held a poll to decide on an official likeness for the Female Shepard to appear on ME3 marketing materials, and an overwhelming majority voted in a blonde Shepard. 

Unfortunately, some fans complained and made really disgusting remarks, forcing BioWare to hold a secondary poll, which far fewer people were aware of, and in which a redheaded likeness won. It's kind of a big issue for me, as i've always been somthing of a champion of social justice. 

In regards to the Retake movement being rude, this thread is a perfect example. Some members are decent people, but a lot act like children. Petty name-calling, highschool-level silent treatment and shunning. It's sad, and somewhat unfortunate that those people are among the most ardent supporters of the cause. 

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xHezz90 wrote...

firstarioch wrote...
9 30 pm in UK ...BST



SO for me that would be 10:30am :D


I don't remeber when it is... :crying: I've completely forgoten.. its like... what 1:30pm I guess? I'm PDT... I feel stupid now...

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Phoenix NL wrote...

firstarioch wrote...

isig wrote...

ErMacPE wrote...

Quick question to everyone - the Bioware team is on @ 4pm tomorrow in the US, so that would make it what, 9PM my time (we're GMT +2)...


GMT+2 should be 11 PM (I think).


9 30 pm in UK ...BST

The DA team is on before them so be around at 8:30 if you're interested in that.

DA was ruined for me since DA2 and Im not bothered about it anymore ...
SWOR is tempting but I dont Like MMO's . Go fetch get lightasaber p+25 to damage against sythethics ..blah blah...
no... I wanted KOTOR 3 ...
ME is the only thing I care from Bioware anymore and since they messed up the ending  than that PAX tomorrow is the last chance for them to keep me...
otherwise there are plenty other game makers ...just want to save myself the heartache....