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#71251
VivaLaWhatsername

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evisneffo wrote...
*hug hug* (sorry I'd give you a Kaidan hug but nowhere near as fast as you at finding pictures :unsure:)

Try to take it easy ... yeah that is a tough call ... but you're always welcome to vent here, and you're not alone! I'm not sure I'll be able to sleep tonight.


*hug* thank you. It is tough to take it easy for me, but at least I am not alone that's something. Not sure I will be able to sleep tonight either or well this morning (it's nearly 3am here)

silencemayday wrote...

a *hug* for you as well :( 

i'm really sorry.. affected me as well, but mostly with loss of appetite, sleeping way too much and other funny signs of a depression. :/ but don't worry and don't give up, we'll find a way through this. :) you can always hit me up with a message if you feel like it. 


but as for everything else. if this turns out to 'not' be what we want, i guess we'll need some new ideas to express our views and ideas about the ending. we've turned it around and decided to do something good and donated to charity, we sent dozens of mails and letters and we even gave them cupcakes. 

what now?


*hug* thank's to you as well!.

I haven't lost my appetite ( I tend to actually eat lots when I am depressed....hence my being overweight. I have been working on losing the weight as well....then ME3's ending happened and I am starting to give in on my diet :crying:)

Yeah I am happy that those kids (both the charity and the youth centre - cupcakes) got money and sweet goodies out of this. It makes me proud to have been a part of it.

I'm not sure what else we can do if this turns out to be horrible, like it seems to be.

-Kysi- wrote...

Oh man,....I feel so sorry for you after reading this. :(
Nothing much I can offer though except maybe a hug?


Oh wow...I didn't say it to get sympathy, just to vent. I hope I didn't come across as someone seeking sympathy.
Hugs are always good, even online ones lol.

#71252
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Bioware, why you gotta treat me this way. I've been good to you. If we'd had a 'fourth option' to start with, do you think anybody would've complained? If we had the option that actually felt remotely like winning the game instead of choosing which loss to accept, do you think anybody would've complained? Does clarification offer us either of those things? No.

What happened to you, Bioware? Is it EA? Is EA doing this to you, honey? Show me on the ME3 ending where EA touched you.

#71253
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DJBare wrote...

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I vote for reviving Marauder Shields, give him a fully modded Phaeston, and sending him to do some justice at BW's Headquarters :devil:

DISCLAIMER: I'm kidding. I don't support ANY kind of violence.

I vote we send them a big wooden spoon with red, blue and green ribbon on it.


My mom happens to run emploee training (work safety, etc.), and onf of the companies we service is a big importer of "toys" (if you know what I mean).

At the moment, I have a mind to shell out a 100 bucks and send BW a red, blue, and a green one.
Would impart a stronger message than cupcakes i think...

#71254
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Ok, so I'm a skeptic, truly, but let's NOT jump to any conclusions just yet.

First, wait for PAX, see if Bioware will elaborate on this announcement, then wait for the extended cut and play it. Then, either continue supporting Bioware financially, or don't. Simple as that.

Quoting the Forbes article:
"Still, I’m rather astonished to see a fan outcry actually accomplish something of this magnitude. I’ve been cautioned against saying this is a “victory” for fans, as they’re waiting to see if what they get is what they want, but I don’t know how they can see it as anything but. The protesters need to be careful now. If they start saying things like “I wanted the ending CHANGED not EXPANDED,” they’re going to get slapped with the “entitled” and “whiny” labels they hate so much. And at this point, I would finally agree with that classification. This is a win for fans and a concession from Bioware, plain and simple."

"For fans to dislike something in a beloved series so much, that they were able to convince the company to make additional free content for them is amazing and unprecedented. "

#71255
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Well, Bioware gets no more money from me. Ever.

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Cybermortis wrote...

OK, there are maybe two positive things I can see in the statement;

The time scale; As I noted over the last two days the longer it takes for the DLC to be released the more content it will contain. Therefore the greater the odds it will contain other endings. I'd have been far more worried if they had indicated the DLC would be out next week.

The term used; 'Expanded ending' is the exact same term I used myself several times, and not in the negative sense. 'Expanded' *could* be used for a 'double' ending that picks up from the current one...although the fact that they have apparently not called in the actors to record new dialogue would seem to discount this. However, the time issue comes into play once again - there is still (presumably) time for them to call the actors back in to record new stuff. It is also possible that they will get new vocals recorded when the actors come back to record material for other DLC that is planned - Mike Meer did indicate that he was due to go in to do more recording at some point several weeks ago.

I'll hold off passing judgement until I see what they have to say (or avoid saying) at PAX, and probably hold off further judgement until I've had a chance to see the DLC for myself. If it is as insulting and minimal as I fear, then Bioware and EA will see no more of my money...unless I decide to walk past them in their cardboard boxes in a few years time and wave some in their faces and laugh at their 'Artistic integrity' and where its put them.


We will be lucky if this will be out before the start of summer so say June time (unless you live in the UK then summer happened last week :D) if they pull the voice actors back in we will be looking at mid to late summer so anytime between July to September, (unless you live in the UK then late October) by then we may have more details on what it's going to contain etc and we can all make the adult choice ourselves.

I don't think people should go OTT about this yet we still have a long way to go until this saga is over with so as people keep saying.

Stay Civil and Hold that frakking line!

#71257
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evisneffo wrote...

Militarized wrote...

Can we all at least admit that we're pleasantly surprised that it will be free?


I'm neither, to be honest. As I've said, I deeply appreciate that it's being done for free, but it effectively ends the backlash in many ways. People can't complain because it's free. People are disgusted that others are complaining because it's free. There's no way they'll redo a redo. Some people will be pleased, others will give up, or just tear each other apart.

At this point ... I should probably take the other poster's advice (forgot your name, sorry) and try to chill until we actually have more details. :mellow:


True, true... I think them making it free will give them more of an exucuse if this does go terribad.
"But it's free!"

#71258
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The Big Palooka wrote...

Bioware, why you gotta treat me this way. I've been good to you. If we'd had a 'fourth option' to start with, do you think anybody would've complained? If we had the option that actually felt remotely like winning the game instead of choosing which loss to accept, do you think anybody would've complained? Does clarification offer us either of those things? No.

What happened to you, Bioware? Is it EA? Is EA doing this to you, honey? Show me on the ME3 ending where EA touched you.


the whole class just stared at me. i laughed way too loud. 


@xHezz90
you should go get some sleep now. :/ we'll hold the line for you. 

#71259
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The ending of ME3 is a cake uncooked... some cherry does not make it digestible. :sick:

Modifié par MordiMoro, 05 avril 2012 - 03:15 .


#71260
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I don't think I can bring myself to play the 'extended cut' endings. It feels just insulting that they think we are to stupid to understand their "Artistic Vision". God I feel like I'm going to vomit just typing those words about this ending. Just under the definition of Art, this ending does not hold up to a grade school terms of the word.

#71261
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DJBare wrote...

Listen folks, we are going to need really thick skins to get through this, we are going to be called whiney whatever happens, currently the details we have so far are not matching upto what we asked for, continue holding the line and don't allow yourself to be fobbed off, even if it's free, after thinking about this a bit more, this is nothing more that an attempt at pacification, it's likely they have paid DLC that will come out before the "clarity" one, let your wallet vote.

Yeah, I'm not happy, initially it looked like good news, but the more I think about it, the more I feel we are being patronized!


IF they add a LOT to the ending (it would take a huge amount to even get close to making this ending work), then I will possibly accept it. But that wont stop ME3 from being on my "crap purchases" list of games. You know, the games you play once and then stack it away with others and forget about it.

That being said, if this ending stuff falls short (which I am expecting), I will be around for a long damn time. And BioWare will most certainly not be getting another dime from me either way. Their last 3 games have left a lot to be desired.

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Kateish_ wrote...

True, true... I think them making it free will give them more of an exucuse if this does go terribad.
"But it's free!"


A kick in the scrotum is also free...that doesn't mean I'm going to look forward to experiencing one.

#71263
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First it's Dragon Age> starts out great and THEN DA2 is ruined.

Mass Effect> starts out great, ME2 evolves but it's kind of fun and THEN ME3 comes out, great gameplay and it's ruined by the ending.

I ask you, what IP is next on the chopping block EA/BioWare?

I waited for this game religiously, it gave me something to look forward to which is great for a person that suffers serious depression, I played the game from start to finish...saw the endings and felt...empty. I have not touched SP again, I tried MP and thought it was alright but no, just no. How can a game do this to me as a human being, I invested myself in the story made by this company but the truth of the matter is that I am just a cash cow..s***w that. I will wait to hear from Bioware this weekend, but if I don't hear some decent news then idk, maybe next year I will drink to my hearts content and remember March 6th as the day ME died for me and ME is my generations SW's. This PAX conference can't come any sooner.

#71264
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I just did another BBC article. It will come out today.
Again I have been interviewed. Told them that we are cautioous and we want proper resolutions not just thus ending. But we will wait till tomorrow to see what they says. Its more ..bit I'm onthe road now.
Leta see

#71265
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DJBare wrote...

LTBK wrote...
I vote for reviving Marauder Shields, give him a fully modded Phaeston, and sending him to do some justice at BW's Headquarters :devil:

DISCLAIMER: I'm kidding. I don't support ANY kind of violence.

I vote we send them a big wooden spoon with red, blue and green ribbon on it.

So that they can eat their BIG pile of... "that"... ending if this free DLC is disappointing and just adds insult to injury? I like the idea.

By the way, while I'm grateful of the fact that the DLC, whatever it is, will be free, the fact that it's free also worries me about it's actual content (I'm wary about EA/BW right now, as the rest of you).

#71266
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I think Bioware is keenly aware that we may still walk if the extended cut is bad and they will focus test to death the proposed changes. I cant get past the words "new content" that are more than what was said in the early announcements and potentially good news. There is nothing in the announcement to lose hope over at the moment as it is a leap forward from where we've been.

I don't expect to get everything I want (blue babies were never on my agenda but damn that baby asari oicture is cute) but the combination of content, epilogue and clarify is a potentially powerful mix. In particular, clarify can mean a lot more than just a forced explanation, as you can also excise content as part of clarifying something, and replace it with new stuff. All reasons to stay hopeful.

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Guy i dont know if wiki can be taken serously but LOOK AT THIS !! sory for caps http://masseffect.wi...3:_Extended_Cut

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Cybermortis wrote...

Kateish_ wrote...

True, true... I think them making it free will give them more of an exucuse if this does go terribad.
"But it's free!"


A kick in the scrotum is also free...that doesn't mean I'm going to look forward to experiencing one.


lmao!!

Truer words were never spoken.
Thank you. I really needed a good giggle right about now. :D

#71269
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xHezz90 wrote...

Oh wow...I didn't say it to get sympathy, just to vent. I hope I didn't come across as someone seeking sympathy.
Hugs are always good, even online ones lol.

My I feel sorry for you comment was meant as I feel sorry that you feel the exact same way I do now which is sick to my stomach as well(just wanted make mine clearer lol) and you didn't come across as such, and I quite agree hugs are always good

Modifié par Major Swift, 05 avril 2012 - 03:22 .


#71270
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They've basically done to Mass Effect what they've done to Command and Conquer; wrecked it.

EA doesn't listen, and it seems their policy is taking heavy root in Bioware.

I'll wait for PAX, now that I've had a moment to calm down...I hope people will ask Bioware about this 'Director's Cut' edition....and if my previous statement about EA and Bioware has been confirmed, THEN I will not spend another dime on them.

I appreciate the fact they'll give this out for free, but I don't appreciate that it's just an expansion on the endings, rather than giving us what was promised prior to the game release. 16 wildly different endings. No A,B,C ending.

#71271
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silencemayday wrote...


@xHezz90
you should go get some sleep now. :/ we'll hold the line for you. 



You're probably right but I don't think I would be able to sleep right now I shall just watch DVD's and try to relax....and hope my stomach stops hurting :?

#71272
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I'm a very patient and open minded person. I can take their spin a thousand different ways and get riled up over each one. I'll wait for the PAX press stuff to come out and even then I will likely download and try out the free DLC before I make my decision on whether or not I cut EA products out of my life like I did with SOE.

Remember to Hold the Line!
Also, it's not a bad thing if people bring new vibrancy into this thread because of an official statement. I don't want to see this community that I've been proud to be a part of since I finished ME3 turn into the elitists we dislike or get labeled as. I'm not pointing out particulars, just that I've seen a few statements here and there that indicate some leanings this way.

There are a lot of factors why people don't post every single day or what have you. I've seen some people post their thoughts about the ending but don't want to seem spammy so they only post once or sometimes occasionally. I myself read this thread several times a day but for the last week or so I don't post much because I rarely have anything new or (imo) important to say. Just because you don't see someone's user name on every single page does not mean they are not with us 100%.

Again, I'm not trying to sound antagonistic so I apologize if I come across that way. The sense of community I found here is wonderful so I don't want others to be put off when they see comments that make them feel unimportant because they haven't been here since the beginning or they don't post constantly.

If you are new to the movement or even just a lurker please know that we are proud to have you Holding the Line with us!

#71273
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Ditch BioWare... CD Projekt's having press conference about the Witcher in one hour or so...
STREAM

Modifié par donmaciu, 05 avril 2012 - 03:24 .


#71274
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Cybermortis wrote...

OK, there are maybe two positive things I can see in the statement;

The time scale; As I noted over the last two days the longer it takes for the DLC to be released the more content it will contain. Therefore the greater the odds it will contain other endings. I'd have been far more worried if they had indicated the DLC would be out next week.

The term used; 'Expanded ending' is the exact same term I used myself several times, and not in the negative sense. 'Expanded' *could* be used for a 'double' ending that picks up from the current one...although the fact that they have apparently not called in the actors to record new dialogue would seem to discount this. However, the time issue comes into play once again - there is still (presumably) time for them to call the actors back in to record new stuff. It is also possible that they will get new vocals recorded when the actors come back to record material for other DLC that is planned - Mike Meer did indicate that he was due to go in to do more recording at some point several weeks ago.

I'll hold off passing judgement until I see what they have to say (or avoid saying) at PAX, and probably hold off further judgement until I've had a chance to see the DLC for myself. If it is as insulting and minimal as I fear, then Bioware and EA will see no more of my money...unless I decide to walk past them in their cardboard boxes in a few years time and wave some in their faces and laugh at their 'Artistic integrity' and where its put them.

Well they did say it would be available in the summer didn't they? That leaves plenty of time for calling the voice artists back - potentially anyway!

#71275
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just found this:
http://www.pcgamer.c...ng-this-summer/

http://www.joystiq.c...r-offers-furth/

any thoughts?