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[Commander 2815]

What the members of the Retake movement need to do is take a step back and look at the situation. Yes they may have given us free content that will be released in the summer, but until we download it and judge for ourselves we must still ask the hard questions to Bioware about the game. Let them know that we thank you for the free content but if it is still is as bad as the current ending then it will not do.

We must do this in a civilized manner and not jump to any conclusions. We must take anything that Bioware or EA says with a grain of salt. Remember that they liked the ending yet when we judged it for ourselves we deemed it inferior to the standards that Bioware put before us. A company consumers drive their profits and to not cater to their consumers expectations is bad business. It is our job as consumers, when a product fails in its performance, to let the business know in a civilized manner.

Though this may be Bioware or EA's attempt to please us remember that they are a business and are looking for profits. We must let them know that only the highest quality will be acceptable and anything less is intolerable. For those who are going to be at PAX tomorrow ask the hard questions, and think of questions tonight to present to Bioware.

We at the Retake Mass Effect movement will not falter, we will not tire, and we will not fail in our goal of voicing our distaste for the ending and saying that a ending worthy of this game is a must.

Thank you and hold the the line.

[ErMacPE]

http://blog.bioware.com/

Dunno if it's been posted yet, but here's something on the Bioware blog, along with an FAQ... It's.... ja, well to put it in Afrikaans - dis nou rerig nie meer snaaks nie

[Ihatebadgames]

It will be free DLC until april 12 2014.Not really explained of course.Still pushing the explaine.Will it's sorta something good anyway.

[Jorojr]

Cybermortis wrote...

Get the Witcher 2 when it comes out. Dealing with a company that treats its customers with respect should help calm you down.

CD Projekt Red is going to hold a live stream of their conference in about 90 minutes.  There's going to be a surprise announcement for fans of the The Witcher 2.  Some speculate an expansion.  Some have speculated a re-imagination of the Witcher 1 using the Red engine.  Either way, they will be getting my money.

[Phoenix NL]

xHezz90 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

@xhezz90 how many threads are you in just seen you over at HTL

haha just here and I recently poked around on HTL, I spend most of my time on there on the Kaidan thread though.

Phoenix NL wrote...

You mean she's not being faithful to us on this thread????? 

Awww don't be sad *read above* I spend most of my time here, I only poke around on the HTL site.

*sniffle* as long as it's nothing serious...

[Major Swift]

Cybermortis wrote...

VonVerrikan wrote...

I can't keep being angry until summer, Bioware. You're going to kill me with rage.

Get the Witcher 2 when it comes out. Dealing with a company that treats its customers with respect should help calm you down.

^this, I've already got my Witcher 2 copy pre ordered, seems like it'll be a lot of fun

[Jason007Fisher]

 Just read the latest announcement and decided to add my thoughts on the subject. 
Firstly, I am glad that the "DLC" is free - though Bioware/EA really didn't have any other options regarding making the "DLC" free or not. They would have taken enormous flak if they had charged for the "DLC" - so it being free isn't really a bonus per say - but free stuff is always great so I wont complain.

The reason I double-comma the word, DLC, is because we currently have no way of knowing if there will be additional content or simply just one or two new scenes.

I'm definitely of the opinion that this extended cut may not be the exact answer that everyone has been searching for.  The term 'extended'  may simply indicate that Bioware are just going to add in some details but the endings are not going to change at all. Though I'm not prepared to rule out the possibility that the endings might be changed and that this whole 'extended-cut' business is just a way for Bioware to save face over this whole incident - without explicitly stating that the endings are going to be completely overhauled and redone.

My issue with the endings was simply that they negated every single choice gamers had made throughout the entire series. It didn't matter if you started Mass Effect back in 2007 (or 2008 for PC gamers) or now in 2012 - your options were exactly the same across the board.

The plot-holes of the endings are gaping wide and visible to all the dedicated fans, but I'm glad that at least Bioware have officially committed to addressing the problem that they created. I find absolutely impossible to believe that somehow these gigantic plot-holes just slipped through the writing net - Bioware created a Codex for goodness' sake that details the entire Universe and how all the "science" and technology works within it. For the writing team to suddenly "forget" that exploding Relays wipe out entire star-systems is unrealistic. As one poster succintly wrote, "When Shepard blew up the Relays, he killed more orgnaics than the Reapers ever did on their best sweep through the Galaxy!" Turns out that epic scale genocide was actually the saving grace for the universe. <_<

However, I seriously believe that a few extra cutscenes and some additonal narration can never hope to fix the glaring collapse of the Mass Effect Universe that Bioware willingly/unknowingly caused by shipping ME3 with the current endings.

At least this announcment is a step in the right direction - here's hoping Bioware pull through.        

Modifié par Jason007Fisher, 05 avril 2012 - 03:39 .

[Lestatman]

Cybermortis wrote...

VonVerrikan wrote...

I can't keep being angry until summer, Bioware. You're going to kill me with rage.

Get the Witcher 2 when it comes out. Dealing with a company that treats its customers with respect should help calm you down.

Sadly I can't as PS3 owner so all I can do is wait for Dragons Dogma, GW2 or The Last Guardian whenever that comes out.

[talk_sick]

yeah, i'll wait until the DLC, and if it's bad, i'll just go ahead with my plan to send BW 3 different colored dildos, and maybe a note offering some lube as DLC.

[Kazaru]

I like this one X3

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
  end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
  expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

yep they are listening to us, yes they do

[Goikiu]

ErMacPE wrote...

http://blog.bioware.com/

Dunno if it's been posted yet, but here's something on the Bioware blog, along with an FAQ... It's.... ja, well to put it in Afrikaans - dis nou rerig nie meer snaaks nie

I've read that blog post.... i am speechless  I got no polite/civil words to give to EA/BW anymore....  we will see if those... "great cinematics" that will grant our future, ops, extended endinds will achieve something different from rage from us fans 

[nitefyre410]

LTBK wrote...

DJBare wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...
You know I actually think I could swallow nothing better than "clarity" which is pretty much them saying "Your all dumb f**ks so here have some free DLC and shut the hell up"

Yeah, my view has basically return to that, I remembered the post I made about them calling us "stupid" by releasing a clarification DLC, unfortunately I cannot now get it out of my head "too stupid to get it!"

Well, remember that we're just "stupid and whiny children", so it makes sense that they have to explain things to us, right?

Really BioWare... <_<

  


Yeah the problem with that is that I'm far from stupid and if given the c hance I would tell,  Ray, Hudson, Walters and EA  Execs that in very clear and colorful langauge because at this point. There is only so many times, I'm going let you slap me around in the name of being polite and respect till my tolerance runs out.  

And its getting dangerous close that point. 

None of here are stupid - we all come from various educational back grounds and we all came to the same conclusion. These endings are terrible - so they can  take their  "Oh you not smart enough to get our "Artistic Vision." and you   know where with it.  

/rant. 

*deep breath* 

Okay I feel better now - had to get that out. 

[Commander chinFuzz]

Max Knight wrote...

Guy i dont know if wiki can be taken serously but LOOK AT THIS !! sory for caps http://masseffect.wi...3:_Extended_Cut

Anyone else look at those and go 'really?'

[LTBK]

BW wrote...


Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

• BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.
  

Nuff said...

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Phoenix NL wrote...
*sniffle* as long as it's nothing serious...

*hug* nah I barely even post on there at all. (On the Kaidan thread I go for smexy pics )

To everyone:
Ouch....this...this...doesn't this kind of crush all our hope now?

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned. 

Modifié par xHezz90, 05 avril 2012 - 03:46 .

[oneword]

ErMacPE wrote...
http://blog.bioware.com/
...

xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...
Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare
strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc
of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the
existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned. 

hah...
there's not much room for interpretation here...
I'm not sure how to react...

Modifié par oneword, 05 avril 2012 - 03:48 .

[Chatboy 91]

Urgh, I knew this would happen. The endings need to be "clarified". Which is basically saying: "You guys just can't see the artistic GENIUS that we put into the game! Here, let us show you our brilliant work!" You know that saying, if you have to explain a joke it isn't funny? Same thing here. No amount of clarification is going to remove the gaping plot holes introduced through a retarded Deus Ex Machina, in a series that thus far had inner consistency.

[Morty Smith]

LTBK wrote...

BW wrote...


Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

• BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.
  

Nuff said...

People thought it made no sense - give them more nonsense!

[Goikiu]

xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...
*sniffle* as long as it's nothing serious...

*hug* nah I barely even post on there at all. (On the Kaidan thread I go for smexy pics )

To everyone:
Ouch....this...this...doesn't this kind of crush all our hope now?

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned. 

A little... because... the real name of "team's artistic vision" is "team's lsd vision", isn't it? 

[isig]

Ugh, I just read  http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut/

Dear Lord..  they're in fact keeping the RGB endings (and only those, there won't be a fourth "screw your solutions" option added in, judging by this) and sticking to their "artistic vision".. to make us buy more dlc and, of course, multiplayer packs..  oh well. Can't say I'm surprised, really.

Just terribly disapointed.

[CDHarrisUSF]

It's looking pretty clear that Bioware and I will be parting ways. The press release tells me they haven't heard a damn thing I've been saying. There isn't a movement this big because the ending was too ambiguous. People hate what is shown as much as, if not more than, what isn't shown.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 05 avril 2012 - 03:49 .

[Bizantura]

Ah, being able to shoot the catalist will be a good start.

[Kateish]

LTBK wrote...

BW wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

• BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.
  

Nuff said...

I think my heart might have just broken slightly.

Modifié par Kateish_, 05 avril 2012 - 03:49 .

[K0M154R]

Not till Summer?

Good:
- Gives them time to do it right, not that that means they will.
- Also, free is important, since after all, if you had to pay for it and if it didn't add anything you could experience, only vids, then we'd all troll the YouTubes and they wouldn't get any money anyway.

Bad:
- Holding the line till July (EDIT:or whenever it comes out) is a tall order.
- Clarification is not quite the word we were looking for...
- My ME1 copy already has less dust on it than my ME3.
- What about people without internet connectivity for their Console? Are they SOL?


---We might be talking about a double dip depression here guys. Right now, it's like we're all just waiting in the hospital lounge to hear whether our loved one will stay dead or just be paralyzed for life.

Modifié par K0M154R, 05 avril 2012 - 03:51 .

[BlackDevil06]

Wow, that is nothing but pure arrogance. A lot of people voiced their disappointement in your art and yet you defend it. I'm utterly speechless. Might as well bury my ME stuff. Rest in pieces.

Thank god there's still Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. Or the Witcher 2. Can't wait for the stuff of the enhanced version.