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[Phoenix NL]

I have just tweeted the following:
@JessicaMerizan is there something to this that we aren't aware of yet or is this simply part of the announced EC?

in response to:

@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

[TheSimbul]

My guess?

Destroy: Shep lives and somehow reunites with crew. Terrible losses all around, no relays etc

Control/Synthesis: Shep dies and we get eulogy/burial bs scenes.

Might include some "reconstruction" scenes, to make a point that destroying the mass relays won't condemn Quarians and Turians to death by starvation in Sol or some such crap.
And I doubt they'd have the balls to show how the exploding relays would most likely destroy quite a few systems...

Ugh...it's making my head hurt, just thinking about it...

[Brandonhc]

Pabloskie wrote...

 I think the new extended ending will finally prove the theory that space magic is real in the ME universe. 

The idea of that  would have been silly half way through Mass Effect 3.

But NOPE. They are sticking with Space Magic....

Bioware.... Space Magic?.

Really?... Come on.

[Fallenfromthesky]

Cybermortis wrote...

Nope. This is most likely a reaction to EA winning the Consumers 'Worst company in America' aware yesterday.

So would that mean that this was going to be the big announcement at PAX and EA just thought "forget it " and jumped it forward/backward (depending on your point of view).

[DiTHmaphacks]

Cybermortis wrote...

Fallenfromthesky wrote...

Just a thought but does it seem odd that BW is announcing this ONE day before PAX surley there have been so many other chances.

Nope. This is most likely a reaction to EA winning the Consumers 'Worst company in America' aware yesterday.

My thoughts exactly.Is it strange that after EA says on a press release that they are proud of how they are doing things (even though consumers voted them as the most greedy company in US) and BW basically says they are proud of how they do things.

GL in the future BW.

[oneword]

firstarioch wrote...
Listen people stop being negative !
lets give them time ...lets see what they say tomorrow ,...
lets campaign and make our voices heard !!!
and when we get this DLC lets see what it is !!1
I doubt it will be just still and some cutsceens...
this is not Bioware way...
lets do our part !!1
but stop deleting games ,switching off...yet...
lets see..

my thought exactly, only more coherently introduced
stay civil people! this is not over yet!!

Modifié par oneword, 05 avril 2012 - 06:25 .

[xcomcmdr]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

Oh my God, I can't believe this. They are giving us epilogues to show us the terribleness that happens after the terribleness?

Yes. EA has strange ways indeed.

[PhoenixDove1]

Chatboy 91 wrote...

Xavier Hawk wrote...

Well potentially the extended cut could clear up a lot, but given the tone of the release statement I'm not over optimistic so far. So my current plan of action:

1) Will not buy any ME3 DLC
2) Will check out the extended cut when released
3) Will re-evaluate (1) after (2)
4) I will under no circumstance pre-order Dragonage 3 or any other Bioware game, the trust is broken and will be looking heavily at fan reaction to any future releases they do before I condiser buying.

Now if Bioware want the trust back then they need to deliver a very good extended cut which soundly explains all 3 endings in a far better way than the current lashed together sack of garbage filled with canon holes they have at present. Also there going to have to really deliver when it comes to Dragonage 3. Myself I would very much like to see BioWare return to standards of old and feel there very capable of this after all ME3 was the best game I've played in a long time it's just they really, really, really, really screwed the ending up.

Yup, that sums up my plans. Never buying another BioWare product unless they actually fix the ending.

I underlined fan reaction.  Will not be listening to any game reviewers ever again either unless like that bus one (can't remember the name) where they have proven they will give bad reviews where they are due and be influenced by kick backs or advertising or any other pressure from the game companies to give a good review.

[ld1449]

firstarioch wrote...

Listen people stop being negative !
lets give them time ...lets see what they say tomorrow ,...
lets campaign and make our voices heard !!!
and when we get this DLC lets see what it is !!1
I doubt it will be just still and some cutsceens...
this is not Bioware way...
lets do our part !!1
but stop deleting games ,switching off...yet...
lets see..
from all we know they might just slap new ending !!1 and all this is disinformation !!1
so hold the line !!1and calm the fcuk down!!!

I respectfully disagree, if the news of the clarification DLC is "well recieved" or at least "neutrally recieved" by us doing nothing then Bioware will know that there's a green light to go ahead with this clarification. Every deleted origin account/STOR subscription cancelation will mean be another red flag going up that might get them to consider that maybe they're miscalculating *again*

So for my part I say cancel everything you have related to EA and Bioware. Make them listen by any means necesary

[B33ker]

Laurencio wrote...
Lazy? It's not about being lazy. It's about not having the time, nor the money to do what people are, somewhat unreasonably, demanding.

Not having the money????  BWAHAHAHAAAA

EA has more money than God thanks to ripping us all off to the tune of $60-80 a pop.

[IxSITHxI]

For those planning on getting smashed tonight, how 'bout a little VODKA!

[Cogneter]

@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

So... who will NOT pick Destroy ending?

[Elanor]

Phoenix NL wrote...

@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

It doesn't change that Star child 'artistic' idea is ridiculous.
I think I'm depressed.

[Atrocity]

Mmm, write this down:
popler (strawberry liqueur) combined with drop of vodka, blueberry liqueur and orange flavoured soda is actually pretty good angst-drink. Tastes kinda like strawberry flavoured winegum sweets from the childhood, before one had to grow up and suck it up, no matter how disappointed one is. This is one of the few good things that have come out of this mess of an ending.

 I miss those days I could cry because something didn't go as I planned, when I could throw temper tantrums and things would always work out in the end. Now, instead of that, I'm drinking and making fool of myself on a game forum. Here's a real, physical toast to that, growing up, yet never becoming an adult who could just shrug this off  

Modifié par Atrocity, 05 avril 2012 - 06:29 .

[Garlador]

There are HUNDREDS of plotholes and questions those final 10 minutes introduced. If they really want to stick to the current, extremely nonsensical endings, they're going to need at least a few hours to go down the list of grievances one by one.

Why did my teammates teleport onto the Normandy? Is the explosion different than from Arrival and what the in-game Codex says it is? How did Anderson beat me to the Catalyst? Where was the Illusive Man hiding and how did he get there? How did he get those new powers we've never seen before? Why does the Catalyst look like a dead kid? Why can't I question the kid at all? Why can't I poke holes in his nonsensical logic that I've PROVEN to be wrong in the past? If I die in the Control ending, how do I control them? Am I a ghost? What's stopping them from coming right back or ignoring my control? How does Shepard possibly survive in the Destroy ending? How does Synthesize even work? Did I just turn trees into robot trees and toasters into people? How are all those billions of soldiers stranded over earth going to survive? How can turians and quarians survive if they can't even eat our food? Why was every choice I made in the game negated and made meaningless? Did the people on the Citadel survive? Like Kelly, or Conrad, Liara's father, Ashley's sister, or Dr. Michel? Why does the Destroy ending kill geth and EDI too? Why can't it just kill the Reapers? What happens to the millions of husks, brutes, banshees, marauders, and cannibals left on earth in two of the three endings? How come Harbinger leaves after blasting me in the face with his death beam? What happens to all those colonies and space stations that are now stranded without mass relays for food and supplies? If the energy beam from the relays WASN'T destructive, how was it destroying the Normandy? Why was Joker fleeing the battle in the first place? How did Joker survive the crash without a single bone being broken when he can't even sneeze hard for fear of breaking a rib? How on earth can the Normandy crew survive on a desolate planet and repopulate? What was going on with Liara's weird dream/memory at the end? Why did my Shepard even see her in visions in the ending instead of his/her actual love interest? How did Shepard, who could barely stand and walk, suddenly get the strength to just start running full speed towards the end of the game in Synthesis? Why does the Catalyst even have those three options present at the end? Why would the Catalyst allow two of the three choices to destroy itself so willingly? If I picked Destroy, which kills all synthetics, does that mean I killed Kaiden, Tali, Garrus, Jack, and all augmented biotics or people with biotic implants, which are synthetic technology in their very brains? How can earth support billions of alien life forms when it looks like it can barely support its own? Did I just kill more people than the entire Reaper fleet combined? If the Citadel just exploded over earth, isn't it going to crash into earth and cause a new Ice Age? What happens to the trillions of now homeless, wandering people I've just stranded over earth, from both fleets and refugees from the Citadel? How can Synthesis even work on a genetic level if Synthetics don't have DNA in the first place? Why did the game basically turn into a game of "Choose Your War Crime" devoid of any Paragon choices whatsoever? If Starchild was in the Citadel the whole time, why did it need Sovereign at all in Mass Effect 1?

I know Bioware is at least TRYING. They may be trying in the wrong direction, but at least they're trying. Props to them for that... though if they want to give true clarity, they're in trouble.

They introduced more plotholes in the final ten minutes than there was actual story in the entire three games combined. It might take a whole 'nother game just to "clarify" every problem the ending introduced.

[TamiBx]

 Does anyone have the link to the PAX group? I kind of want to see if they can ask to the ME team about something. 
Please?

[laughing sherpa girl]

Laurencio wrote...

TheSimbul wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

Brandonhc wrote...

Bioware. If you like it or not. One day we will have it our way. What is done CAN be undone. We will NOT thank you for adding sprinkles onto the crap of a ending.

I for one will never stop demanding what Mass Effect has earned. If you are that LAZY, move over for someone who gives a damn and get lost.

Lazy? It's not about being lazy. It's about not having the time, nor the money to do what people are, somewhat unreasonably, demanding.

Actually there is nothing unreasonable about our so called demands

In any other industry, misleading and false marketing of the calibre Bioware put out for ME3 would give customers grounds for legal action. The gaming industry, being massive and having tons of revenue, believes it is above the free market rules that apply to every other product out there.

The fact is they made false promises that they are unwilling to fullfill. I swear if I was in the US I'd file an official complaint against them. Not just because of the endings, but because it's about time paying customers take a stance and say "No more". Enough is enough.

Of course there is. You are demanding that they completely change part of the game that could potentially be linked to other projects under development. If so those projects become useless and the time and money spent on these projects are utterly useless. Resulting in massive losses, as well as disgruntled employes.

Now even if they did change the ending that would have cost them a considerably chunk of money, which would have to  be taken from other projects and development funds. Probably reducing the quality of potential masterpieces. It would talso take a lot of time, which impatient fans wouldn't be willing to wait for, and when they finally released it there is no guarantee that the fans would like this new ending one bit.

There are absolutely no grounds, at least not legally, for false advertising.

All that neds to be done is to go back and examine the pre release advertising and hype that was produced by Bioware/EA and compare it with the delived product and its easy to see that there exists more than enough grounds for a false advertiseing claim..

[TheSimbul]

Phoenix NL wrote...

I have just tweeted the following:
@JessicaMerizan is there something to this that we aren't aware of yet or is this simply part of the announced EC?

in response to:

@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

Lol, I tweeted her based on your comment! Asked her if she reads their own blog or if PR ppl don't know how to write in English...cause a reunion would technically change the ending. So tired of the bull**** marketing dribble tbqh.

[IxSITHxI]

Atrocity wrote...

Mmm, write this down:
popler (starberry liqueur) combined with drop of vodka, blueberry liqueur and orange flavoured soda is actually pretty good angst-drink. Tastes kinda like strawberry flavoured winegum sweets from the childhood, before one had to grow up and suck it up, no matter how disappointed one is. This is one of the few good things that have come out of this mess of an ending.

 I miss those days I could cry because something didn't go as I planned, when I could throw temper tantrums and things would always work out in the end. Now, instead of that, I'm drinking and making fool of myself on a game forum. Here's a real, physical toast to that, growing up, yet never becoming an adult who could just shrug this off  

For those planning on getting smashed tonight, how 'bout a little VODKA!

[Atrocity]

IxSITHxI wrote...

For those planning on getting smashed tonight, how 'bout a little VODKA!

I knew this was going to be Korpiklaani before I clicked the link.  Here's another toast to Finnish music and my friends who are actually fans of the band.

[Lord Costantino]

 At first I was like
http://i0.kym-cdn.co....png?1306264975

Then I remembered good game companies like Bethesda and Blizzard and then I was like this towards Bioware and EA
http://weknowmemes.c...ff-futurama.png

Modifié par Lord Costantino, 05 avril 2012 - 06:27 .

[Ohpus]

Laurencio wrote...

Brandonhc wrote...

Bioware. If you like it or not. One day we will have it our way. What is done CAN be undone. We will NOT thank you for adding sprinkles onto the crap of a ending.

I for one will never stop demanding what Mass Effect has earned. If you are that LAZY, move over for someone who gives a damn and get lost.

Lazy? It's not about being lazy. It's about not having the time, nor the money to do what people are, somewhat unreasonably, demanding.

Agreed, sort of. We really don't know the motivation or attitude of the person making the decision, but we can assume it had something to do with little green pieces of paper.

As for not having the time or the money? EA, seriously? They have the ability to capitalize the fix and armtize the losses over the long term (if I used the right terminology there). They have already pushed off the other DLC to put this one first. Clearly they are making the time.

It has to be made abundantly clear to EA that we will not stand for this and we will not buy any DLC. My pessimistic nature is thinking though that they will offer the endings for free, then point to the number of people downloading it as being "satisfied consumers".

[Temtimtom]

Guys, have we won? Or not quite? What is the opinion of the Retake on this?

[RainbowDazed]

I have nothing decent enough to say to type at the moment.

You had your chance, Bioware.

[CoolioThane]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

"So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding."

The tone is wrong in so many ways...

They say they won't change the endings but doesn't say anything about adding to them...perhaps the IT could still be alive?