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#72076
chujwamdotego

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Many of us talk about lost hope.

I lost mine too.

But cold determination remains.

Wars are won not because one party is braver, but because it is braver one minute longer.

Hold the line. With cold determination.

#72077
firstarioch

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parerune wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

http://www.bbc.com/n...nology-17626125

even says something about us - "The news prompted angry posts by some users on the company's social network"

lol well if bbc is covering it then then someone is obviously listening

Thats me man .I did it today  .BBc called for another article and interview me to a sk us what we think about all this.
I told them what I /we think.
They promised me another article and they did it today.
I just wan to say that I will stay here to last man ,writing ,campaiging , calliing newspapers , writing emails etc...
I want to try to make a difference...

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DJBare wrote...

Retake have been walking a tightrope since all this began, now someone is shaking the rope, if we respond in the wrong way then it will have all been for nothing, the press have been our supporters, they can just as easily become our enemies, keep that in mind with your responses.


^This

#72079
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...maybe The Boxer Rebellion's Losing You was not the right song choice for me. Not precisely inspirational for the moment, is it? 

www.youtube.com/watch

At least I have Batman. Though I suppose it's just a matter of time before someone does to Rocksteady what has happened to most indie companies...

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NPH11 wrote...

Merizan's tweet about an ending where "rebuilding the relays is completely likely" makes me wonder what kind of insane logic Bioware intends to run with on this.

From my perspective, rebuilding the relays is pretty damn far from likely, not matter what the situation.


I imagine they're gonna go against several of the established "rules" to gratify people the best they can. Not like they haven't done it before i.e. endings. Still, can't see how they can explain synthesis in any way I can take it seriously

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Woobels wrote...

Wow, if you guys actually keep complaining now because you wanted an entirely new ending done (which is really expensive and it almost never happens in fiction) then I might actually start the entitlement stuff a little.
Yes the endings were bad, loads of games/books have bad endings, the main reason the endings were bad in the first place is that they gave you no closure for no reason, if they fix that then you should be content with that.


Speak for yourself. Right from the beginning I've said that everything following Anderson's death is unacceptable and needs to be changed. Most of the people here agree with me. Why shouldn't we complain when it's clear that Bioware isn't giving us what we've been asking for from the very start?

#72082
I-am-Biwinning

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Well, here are my thoughts on the "artistic integrity" argument, which we see the recent announcement unsettlingly riddled with.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11049745

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http://ohnotheydidnt...86#t11785174286

lol

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Hm. I need to get away from the computer for a bit. I'm angry enough that I might say something that I regret, here.

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Gardner295 wrote...

NPH11 wrote...

Merizan's tweet about an ending where "rebuilding the relays is completely likely" makes me wonder what kind of insane logic Bioware intends to run with on this.

From my perspective, rebuilding the relays is pretty damn far from likely, not matter what the situation.

Well, it is not impossible, you know. But it would be very, very hard. With almost every race locked up in Earth with no resources...coming up with new designs and construction yards for a thing so big it ain't gonna be easy


Surely most of the resources have been used on the Crucible?  It was pretty clear to me (Although I don't understand the ending, and have been told repeatedly this makes me an idiot so... you know, maybe I am missing something here) that the Crucible is going to take up a f*ckton of resources and every single thing you find - minerals, materials, soldiers, engineers etc. - is going towards this thing.  Don't you need a crapton of Ezo to make a Mass Relay, at the very least? Where's that coming from in the Sol System??  Nobody can get in or out in a reasonable time frame from other systems... IDK explain.

Modifié par Huojin, 05 avril 2012 - 09:11 .


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chujwamdotego

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firstarioch wrote...

Thats me man .I did it today  .BBc called for another article and interview me to a sk us what we think about all this.
I told them what I /we think.
They promised me another article and they did it today.
I just wan to say that I will stay here to last man ,writing ,campaiging , calliing newspapers , writing emails etc...
I want to try to make a difference...


You do. And for all it's worth - I thank You.

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DJBare wrote...

I cannot wait!


Now there is my next game purchase ~

They deserve it, they care about their customers and make great games unlike a certain company who's forum we are currently posting on...

#72088
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Okay, everybody here needs to calm down. Me included. Our... excitement was one of the reason this was released the day before PAX - so we can say things we will regret, insult BioWare's guys... and let them have a reason to call us whiny brats to press - and for journalists to launch at the movement with new aggressive force.

Why wasn't it released before? Because we'd have calmed down, reached consensus - so to speak - before PAX, and once again would be standing strond and together, civil and vocal.

Jennifer Hale wasn't contacted about any DLCs yet, so, basically, either this "Extension" will not include femShep or they are just outlining what to do - it's a long way to summer! And extension? Would it really need that much time? Time will show.

And we should not let pressure get down this time.
Show them that we will NOT simply disappear over time.

by Xenistrasza at HTL



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babachewie wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

thormir wrote...

this is me holding the line for the last time. I am retiring from all things bioware I am uninstalling all of their games and origin and never returning to the forums. I beat Mass effect 3 in 3 days after release, I had made sure I used my Mass effect 2 paragon shep I had my renegade shep ready for my second playthrough. Unfortunatly we have lost, we tried, we maintained civil discourse through this and it was all for naught. No admission from bioware that they botched the ending no admission that there were glaring plotholes just pandering and condecending answers. So I quit. I quit the line I quit Mass effect and I quit caring about supporting this company. Goodbye my friends you have been a source of hope and inspiration.

Leaving the Line


:(

It's over when it's over.

oh...its over hahaha!


I'm thinking about quit with Mass Effect too. :crying: It was my favourite game series.
I've lost my love to the all games. Since end of ME3 I didn't play in anything more than few minutes.
I think I'm going to start read more. :? Maybe it's for the best.
One thing is sure - I'm done with Bioware games.

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DJBare wrote...

Retake have been walking a tightrope since all this began, now someone is shaking the rope, if we respond in the wrong way then it will have all been for nothing, the press have been our supporters, they can just as easily become our enemies, keep that in mind with your responses.


QFT

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 I mean no disrespect to ms Merizan, I think she has handled this whole situtation quite well. 
But I just have to link this one tweet: 
" yeah unfortunately we have to keep the details vague right now to make sure nothing is said that we can't deliver :/"

They sure weren't that fussy about overpromising before release, they might have actually learned one lesson atleast.

link: twitter.com/#!/JoelyBalazs/status/188003131123187715

Modifié par Luiginius, 05 avril 2012 - 09:12 .


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TIM: "There...the ending. I wish you could see it like I do Shepard. It's so...perfect."

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We should make a beacon with the story of how our movement failed, so, other group of gamers after us may have a chance of defeating the game developers in the next cycle, and some blueprints of the retake ME so they might have a chance of compleating what we could not.

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TSC_1 wrote...

Hm. I need to get away from the computer for a bit. I'm angry enough that I might say something that I regret, here.


You probably should because half of your posts here make no sense and just show how little you actually know about this industry(Even though it is a bad industry)

#72095
chujwamdotego

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Elanor1 wrote...
I'm thinking about quit with Mass Effect too. :crying: It was my favourite game series.
I've lost my love to the all games. Since end of ME3 I didn't play in anything more than few minutes.
I think I'm going to start read more. :? Maybe it's for the best.
One thing is sure - I'm done with Bioware games.


Don't leave.

Stay... :unsure:

#72096
DJBare

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TheSimbul wrote...
*snip*
lol

And that's the kind of thing that's going to bring Retake down, by association.

Modifié par DJBare, 05 avril 2012 - 09:13 .


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Well, at least ME3 had its funny moments. I just discovered this: Right after you land on Sur'Kesh wehn you can speak to Wrex and Kirrahe, there's a console with a Salarian and everytime you try to "activate" it, the Salarian gives a funny commentary.

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Gardner295

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Huojin wrote...

Gardner295 wrote...

NPH11 wrote...

Merizan's tweet about an ending where "rebuilding the relays is completely likely" makes me wonder what kind of insane logic Bioware intends to run with on this.

From my perspective, rebuilding the relays is pretty damn far from likely, not matter what the situation.

Well, it is not impossible, you know. But it would be very, very hard. With almost every race locked up in Earth with no resources...coming up with new designs and construction yards for a thing so big it ain't gonna be easy


Surely most of the resources have been used on the Crucible?  It was pretty clear to me (Although I don't understand the ending, and have been told repeatedly this makes me an idiot so... you know, maybe I am missing something here) that the Crucible is going to take up a f*ckton of resources and every single thing you find - minerals, materials, soldiers, engineers etc. - is going towards this thing.  Don't you need a crapton of Ezo to make a Mass Relay, at the very least? Where's that coming from in the Sol System??  

You have a point. They could harvest some Ezo from FTL drives  from ships but...they couldn't go anywhere once the acceleration sequence created by a relay is done

#72099
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UPDATED!

An End Once and For All


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RussianOrc wrote...

We should make a beacon with the story of how our movement failed, so, other group of gamers after us may have a chance of defeating the game developers in the next cycle, and some blueprints of the retake ME so they might have a chance of compleating what we could not.

not a bad idea. 


to everyone that quoted my last post, i'm sorry. i'm currently just quite frustrated. and angry. and disappointed. 'crushed' may be a better word. everyone here convinced me to have some hope.. and now this.