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[TamiBx]

Computim wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

We need this guy to represent us:

I still say we should have gotten Chuck Norris on board with this.. it would have gone a lot smoother when he just threw anyone who said anything dumb into a black hole.

How come there is no Chuck Norris and ME3 meme? Or a reference? I'm sad now 

Actually, today has been hell of a day. I was in such a bad mood that I refused to sing in my choir class after a couple of annoying moments lol (stood there and pretended to sing)

[Computim]

RedWolf08 wrote...

I've been lurking around for way too many pages since I posted last. I'll TRY and be patient and wait for the free DLC that clarifies *cough* the ending. I was hoping we'd learn more tomorrow from PAX, but it seems that won't happen according to the tweet earlier. If the DLC ends up delivering on all of the promises made before the game came out *16 different endings, no abc endings* then I'll be happy. If not, well then I've said it before and I'll say it again-If Bioware thinks I should imagine the ending with what they gave us, then they can imagine me playing their games while I play games from other developers. Just to CLARIFY my position, since I know BW/EA LOVES that term-I will no longer be purchasing anything from BW/EA. Which is such a shame since I loved so many of their previous games. /mourn

EA will be happy to know that your clarification will be free, so they have no right to complain about it, and if they expect otherwise they're just entitled whiners.

[MetalCargo999]

Gurneyslabb wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote..

I don't know how they could make it make sense, and evidently, neither do you.  Does that mean that they don't know how?  Your position is purely one of arrogance.  Wait for their explanation, then see.

Naww, you're still a hopeful.

I remember far too many of BioWare's stuffups to have the hope you do.

1- "Massive Community Event" which ended out being for some of the US only (which they didnt tell us about, we had to read the fine print once the big timer had stopped and released the details to us).

2- TOR release, which went from world wide, to seperate release dates. Then sent us all the emails to preorder, and we got the "not available in your region" messages.

3- Dragon Age 2, with the reuse of the same tiles over and over. Same caves, buildings. Everything.

4- TOR as a whole, it didn't meet the hype they made for it. Which is evident in the now dwindling numbers (I used to play it).

5- Now, Mass Effect 3. Not only have they broken promises to the playerbase, they've also managed to insult us at every turn (about how large we are, to our intelligence). Put that on top of the massive failure that is the ending...and yeah.

"Arrogance"? No. Not arrogance. Just experienced enough of BioWare recently to know that this will be the same as everything else. It is not arrogant when failing has become part of the companies personality.

100 times this not to mention the one who shall not be named ( Hawke ) shudder

I'm not being hopeful, I'm being polite, regardless of my own feelings of being betrayed by Bioware.  We came to them with a complaint, now it's their turn to respond.  Once we have their response, we get our turn.

[Nharia1]

GoldBTM25 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

My problem with someone realsing a mod, is that I can't get it... I'm on a 360 so it won't do me any good, plus I've got no idea how to go about setting up mods in the first place... Yeah its sad I know, but I've got no clue what I'm doing when it comes to most PC games, the most I know how to do is how to use console commands...

QFT. All us console owners got is headcannon. Luckily, I have a pretty active imagination

I'm writing my own fic, I'm working on Chapter 4 right now... to be honest I haven't even started it yet... though I'm probably going to do so later tonight, probably after dinner...

[Cybermortis]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

"Arrogance"? No. Not arrogance. Just experienced enough of BioWare recently to know that this will be the same as everything else. It is not arrogant when failing has become part of the companies personality.

As evidenced by the tweet earlier that stated that the team at PAX will have nothing more to say about the 'Expanded ending' that wasn't in the statement they gave today.

Nice to see that they've got their priorities straight. Customer disatisfaction...no, no. We can't possibly deal with that when we can sell them the MP DLC they didn't want and talk about Dragon Age 3...which practically no one is going to buy.

[RedWolf08]

Computim wrote...

RedWolf08 wrote...

I've been lurking around for way too many pages since I posted last. I'll TRY and be patient and wait for the free DLC that clarifies *cough* the ending. I was hoping we'd learn more tomorrow from PAX, but it seems that won't happen according to the tweet earlier. If the DLC ends up delivering on all of the promises made before the game came out *16 different endings, no abc endings* then I'll be happy. If not, well then I've said it before and I'll say it again-If Bioware thinks I should imagine the ending with what they gave us, then they can imagine me playing their games while I play games from other developers. Just to CLARIFY my position, since I know BW/EA LOVES that term-I will no longer be purchasing anything from BW/EA. Which is such a shame since I loved so many of their previous games. /mourn

EA will be happy to know that your clarification will be free, so they have no right to complain about it, and if they expect otherwise they're just entitled whiners.

LOL Darn it.  Wonder how much I could have charged them for my clarification *facepalm*

[TSC_1]

MetalCargo999 wrote...

I'm not being hopeful, I'm being polite, regardless of my own feelings of being betrayed by Bioware.  We came to them with a complaint, now it's their turn to respond.  Once we have their response, we get our turn.

They responded today. That response has been found to be insufficient.

[MetalCargo999]

TSC_1 wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Then let them try to regain their credibility - and in the meantime, regain your dignity.  Wait for them to come up with their response as to why they want to keep their ending with the explanation they have, then come up with your rebuttals.  Besides, providing it for free is the closest thing to an apology the fanbase is ever going to get, and in the gaming industry, this is the first time this happens.  It is historic.  

There are only so many chances that I'm willing to give you. And I'm still willing to let Bioware redeem themselves. But at this point, they actually need to do it to keep me on board. Vague promises that they might do so in the future are not enough anymore. It's time for them to put up or shut up, as it were.

If they have something that will redeem them, we need to see it. Now.

No you don't.  You want to see it now.  That's different from a need.  They still need to finish writing an explanation for the ending before they can provide any further information.  Let them do their jobs, and let us watch them closely as they do it.

[TamiBx]

Nharia1 wrote...

GoldBTM25 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

My problem with someone realsing a mod, is that I can't get it... I'm on a 360 so it won't do me any good, plus I've got no idea how to go about setting up mods in the first place... Yeah its sad I know, but I've got no clue what I'm doing when it comes to most PC games, the most I know how to do is how to use console commands...

QFT. All us console owners got is headcannon. Luckily, I have a pretty active imagination

I'm writing my own fic, I'm working on Chapter 4 right now... to be honest I haven't even started it yet... though I'm probably going to do so later tonight, probably after dinner...

Don't forget the EMS, multiplayer and galaxy readiness, guys...their first and probably longest fans aka Xbox 360 players were completeled s***** over in this game. 

[MetalCargo999]

TSC_1 wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

I'm not being hopeful, I'm being polite, regardless of my own feelings of being betrayed by Bioware.  We came to them with a complaint, now it's their turn to respond.  Once we have their response, we get our turn.

They responded today. That response has been found to be insufficient.

No they didn't.  They told us their response is coming in the summer.  Take it or leave it, that's how long you're waiting.

[TSC_1]

MetalCargo999 wrote...

No you don't.  You want to see it now.  That's different from a need.  They still need to finish writing an explanation for the ending before they can provide any further information.  Let them do their jobs, and let us watch them closely as they do it.

I'm saying that if they want to be able to count on us as customers in the future, they need to show us now. Otherwise, a large portion of us are going to be gone. It isn't our need; it's theirs.

MetalCargo999 wrote...

No they didn't.  They told us their
response is coming in the summer.  Take it or leave it, that's how long
you're waiting.

My point is that unlesss they give us something concrete soon, many of us will leave it. And Bioware. Forever. If Bioware doesn't want that, they need to do something concrete immediately.

Modifié par TSC_1, 06 avril 2012 - 03:05 .

[GoldBTM25]

Nharia1 wrote...

GoldBTM25 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

My problem with someone realsing a mod, is that I can't get it... I'm on a 360 so it won't do me any good, plus I've got no idea how to go about setting up mods in the first place... Yeah its sad I know, but I've got no clue what I'm doing when it comes to most PC games, the most I know how to do is how to use console commands...

QFT. All us console owners got is headcannon. Luckily, I have a pretty active imagination

I'm writing my own fic, I'm working on Chapter 4 right now... to be honest I haven't even started it yet... though I'm probably going to do so later tonight, probably after dinner...

Nice. I'm certain it will be extremely well done. Then again, not much competition.

[Computim]

Cybermortis wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

"Arrogance"? No. Not arrogance. Just experienced enough of BioWare recently to know that this will be the same as everything else. It is not arrogant when failing has become part of the companies personality.

As evidenced by the tweet earlier that stated that the team at PAX will have nothing more to say about the 'Expanded ending' that wasn't in the statement they gave today.

Nice to see that they've got their priorities straight. Customer disatisfaction...no, no. We can't possibly deal with that when we can sell them the MP DLC they didn't want and talk about Dragon Age 3...which practically no one is going to buy.

Well it's okay.. they keep treating customers with complaints like this and their PAX sessions will be held by the coffee maker soon enough.

I gotta admit I'd have a moment of amusement if no one showed up for their session tomorrow... however I really like some of the costumes people worked HARD on and hope they at least enjoy the session... and that Bioware didn't tarnish the magic too much by giving everyone these craptastic endings and then saying "Too bad not changing"

[Nharia1]

Computim wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Computim wrote...

The way I see it now, Someone is going to release a mod with far better endings than Bioware had. Those endings will end up becoming the 'standard' mod set that everyone who gets the game downloads.. much like the unofficial bug fix mod for Oblivion & Morrowind that ended up fixing the stuff Bethesda didn't get around to. Except in this case the sad thing will be that the narrative artistic integrity that Bioware fought so hard to protect will be crushed (with good reason) and forgotten in place of an ending legitimized by the community and brought about by the arrogance of the original releasing studio.

I can't tell if I'm upset by this or hopeful for something that I can call canon and have the entire RetakeME3 community backing me on despite everyone knowing it's not official.

My problem with someone realsing a mod, is that I can't get it... I'm on a 360 so it won't do me any good, plus I've got no idea how to go about setting up mods in the first place... Yeah its sad I know, but I've got no clue what I'm doing when it comes to most PC games, the most I know how to do is how to use console commands...

Well just wait for it to go in the bargain bin for $5 for PC and you can get it on there (much like I did with Oblivion).
The way we're going that should be in a month or so *rimshots*

True... but I won't have my Shepard cause she's on my 360... >.> I've been wondering for a while now, since the 360 has thumb drives, would it be possible to trnasfer saves from the 360 to the PC...
Actually now that I think about that, that doesn't seem like it'll work will it...

[Cybermortis]

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Then let them try to regain their credibility - and in the meantime, regain your dignity.  Wait for them to come up with their response as to why they want to keep their ending with the explanation they have, then come up with your rebuttals.  Besides, providing it for free is the closest thing to an apology the fanbase is ever going to get, and in the gaming industry, this is the first time this happens.  It is historic.  

No its not.

CD Projeck got a lot of complaints about serious bugs with The Witcher. Their answer - to go back and practically re-write and update the entire game AND add additional content. This enhanced edition was...free to download for everyone who had a registered version of the original game.

They've just done the exact same thing with The Witcher 2 - updated the original, added content (including I believe a couple of new endings) and made it free for those who bought and registered the first version of The Witcher 2.

[MetalCargo999]

TSC_1 wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

No you don't.  You want to see it now.  That's different from a need.  They still need to finish writing an explanation for the ending before they can provide any further information.  Let them do their jobs, and let us watch them closely as they do it.

I'm saying that if they want to be able to count on us as customers in the future, they need to show us now. Otherwise, a large portion of us are going to be gone. It isn't our need; it's theirs.

MetalCargo999 wrote...

No they didn't.  They told us their
response is coming in the summer.  Take it or leave it, that's how long
you're waiting.

My point is that unlesss they give us something concrete soon, many of us will leave it. And Bioware. Forever. If Bioware doesn't want that, they need to do something concrete immediately.

Ok.  Let's tell them to use their super powers to stop time so that they can do their work outside of time while we don't notice a thing.  Then, when they're done writing their response to our complaints, they can resume time and present it to us immediately.

[Nharia1]

GoldBTM25 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

GoldBTM25 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

My problem with someone realsing a mod, is that I can't get it... I'm on a 360 so it won't do me any good, plus I've got no idea how to go about setting up mods in the first place... Yeah its sad I know, but I've got no clue what I'm doing when it comes to most PC games, the most I know how to do is how to use console commands...

QFT. All us console owners got is headcannon. Luckily, I have a pretty active imagination

I'm writing my own fic, I'm working on Chapter 4 right now... to be honest I haven't even started it yet... though I'm probably going to do so later tonight, probably after dinner...

Nice. I'm certain it will be extremely well done. Then again, not much competition.

Yeah, the link to the first on is in my sig if you want to read it. :happy:

[donmaciu]

THIS

Modifié par donmaciu, 06 avril 2012 - 03:10 .

[GoldBTM25]

TamiBx wrote...

Don't forget the EMS, multiplayer and galaxy readiness, guys...their first and probably longest fans aka Xbox 360 players were completeled s***** over in this game. 

That's me! *hangs head* Yeah, when I finished the game I went online to see what went wrong. Found out you needed to play MP to get 20 second scence. Got mad. Then saw that the endings were all very, um... similar. Then I really thought about what I had just witnessed and got a migraine and my I.Q. dropped 10 points.

[RatedRRachel]

TamiBx wrote...

Don't forget the EMS, multiplayer and galaxy readiness, guys...their first and probably longest fans aka Xbox 360 players were completeled s***** over in this game. 

Yes, exactly! Even if I had Xbox Gold, I don't think that you should have to play multiplayer to get the best ending. Singleplayer should be a complete experience without it. If you do every fetch quest and united everyone you could, you should be able to get the best ending without having to touch multiplyer. I can understand the addition to the game, but don't punish people who don't like multiplayer. Granted, the endings are all different shades of wrong, but still... I would have liked the option to get the "breathing" scene.

[TamiBx]

GoldBTM25 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Don't forget the EMS, multiplayer and galaxy readiness, guys...their first and probably longest fans aka Xbox 360 players were completeled s***** over in this game. 

That's me! *hangs head* Yeah, when I finished the game I went online to see what went wrong. Found out you needed to play MP to get 20 second scence. Got mad. Then saw that the endings were all very, um... similar. Then I really thought about what I had just witnessed and got a migraine and my I.Q. dropped 10 points.

I've played ME  from  the first one, and I feel like PS3 players got more out of it than we did. 
Now that I know they will keep this ending...I swear they need to fix this EMS problem.  This is all so...wrong. 

[-PG-Skyre]

MetalCargo999 wrote...
Ok.  Let's tell them to use their super powers to stop time so that they can do their work outside of time while we don't notice a thing.  Then, when they're done writing their response to our complaints, they can resume time and present it to us immediately.

I think, good sir, you are missing the point.
We are not asking for them to do the work all at once. We are asking for the complete story on how they plan to fix this. They know the basis of our complaints, they are summed up really well in 2 vids on youtube which I have linked to them several times (and they have responded to tell me they watched them).

It does not take anything more than a day of thought to come up with a definitive answer.

As is, I think this is a case of you not being on the recieving end of BioWare's fails enough to understand why it is we are planting our foot and saying "enough is enough".

[Ihatebadgames]

360 owners united for better non-gold endings!Hold the line.

[Nharia1]

TamiBx wrote...

GoldBTM25 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Don't forget the EMS, multiplayer and galaxy readiness, guys...their first and probably longest fans aka Xbox 360 players were completeled s***** over in this game. 

That's me! *hangs head* Yeah, when I finished the game I went online to see what went wrong. Found out you needed to play MP to get 20 second scence. Got mad. Then saw that the endings were all very, um... similar. Then I really thought about what I had just witnessed and got a migraine and my I.Q. dropped 10 points.

I've played ME  from  the first one, and I feel like PS3 players got more out of it than we did. 
Now that I know they will keep this ending...I swear they need to fix this EMS problem.  This is all so...wrong. 

Agreed... Also I've been wondering if I should go out and get Witcher... both 1&2(whenever it comes out, unless its already out)?

[Computim]

GoldBTM25 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Don't forget the EMS, multiplayer and galaxy readiness, guys...their first and probably longest fans aka Xbox 360 players were completeled s***** over in this game. 

That's me! *hangs head* Yeah, when I finished the game I went online to see what went wrong. Found out you needed to play MP to get 20 second scence. Got mad. Then saw that the endings were all very, um... similar. Then I really thought about what I had just witnessed and got a migraine and my I.Q. dropped 10 points.

Same!  I -preordered- Mass Effect 1!  I've been an unapologetic Bioware fanboy until now.  They lost my trust, they don't want to earn it back.... their loss, I'm waiting on Notch's new sci-fi game (which he's basically been coding on twitter the last few days... like actually coding.. some of his tweets are like remainingtime -= collision.time * (1 - remainingtime)

I'm also going to probably do some X-universe play, speaking of which the X3 series is on sale on Steam this weekend.

It's sad how cynical Bioware's turned me into this month.  A month ago they could have sold me horse armor with the N7 logo and I would have called it brilliant and a funny jab at Bethesda for the community... now I'd see it for what it is, a poor judgement at the expense of their customer.