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Not true. Reapers lose in every ending and Shepard dies in the majority of them.


As in dies during the game, not in the ending.

Okay, but what I'm saying is that there should be an ending, at the end of the game, where Shepard totally fails and the Reapers win.

Maybe have Shep leave some sort of "ME1 Prothean beacon"-type warning to the next galactic cycle, leaving a slight glimmer of hope that they'll succeed and it was all worth it.


Oh I got you. That would be pretty good. I know the people who got that ending would totally rage over it though. Honestly, I'd actually play the game through to see it.

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Let's be real folks: you're up against the REAPERS, for Shep's sake, who've been wiping out civilizations for millenia and control the Relays. Did folks really think we'd get some kind of storybook ending here? We have to be realistic. I say they had balls to do what they've done. No real battle comes without sacrifice, after all.

And yet there is no "the Reapers win" ending.


Because Shepard probably will be dead.




I do not understand that response.


If Shepard dies, the Reapers automatically win. It's a nonissue, really.



And i think that if Shepard die reapers wins and game over

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They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.

Buying the DLC is just a waste of time. Prothy does not help. So why exactly he costs $10 i have no idea if does not give us the "happy ending"

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Urdnot Grim wrote...

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Not true. Reapers lose in every ending and Shepard dies in the majority of them.


As in dies during the game, not in the ending.

Okay, but what I'm saying is that there should be an ending, at the end of the game, where Shepard totally fails and the Reapers win.

Maybe have Shep leave some sort of "ME1 Prothean beacon"-type warning to the next galactic cycle, leaving a slight glimmer of hope that they'll succeed and it was all worth it.


Oh I got you. That would be pretty good. I know the people who got that ending would totally rage over it though. Honestly, I'd actually play the game through to see it.

Well, I figure it would be like in ME2, where you really need to try to get the worst ending.

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They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.


GI's not bad. They noted how different DA II was from the original, and they have quite a few who are big ME buffs -Reiner especially - so I'm pretty sure they'll give an honest review of it.

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Iono I have a feeling that THOSE endings arent the only ones out there
Bioware wouldnt just do this to Us.
It could just be my optimist side but Ive been a loyal fan so this Flood of spoilers wont make me think of the game less

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kingsims wrote...

They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.

Hell skyrm proved review site are worthless.  Looked at what a bugged POS that game is.

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KateKane wrote...

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Not true. Reapers lose in every ending and Shepard dies in the majority of them.


As in dies during the game, not in the ending.

Okay, but what I'm saying is that there should be an ending, at the end of the game, where Shepard totally fails and the Reapers win.

Maybe have Shep leave some sort of "ME1 Prothean beacon"-type warning to the next galactic cycle, leaving a slight glimmer of hope that they'll succeed and it was all worth it.


Oh I got you. That would be pretty good. I know the people who got that ending would totally rage over it though. Honestly, I'd actually play the game through to see it.

Well, I figure it would be like in ME2, where you really need to try to get the worst ending.


HAHA now that would be a suicide mission.

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Iono I have a feeling that THOSE endings arent the only ones out there
Bioware wouldnt just do this to Us.
It could just be my optimist side but Ive been a loyal fan so this Flood of spoilers wont make me think of the game less


I have hopes that there will be more endings than these too. But we won't know until we've played it for ourselves.

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I'm picking red. And making sure Shepard dies in the process. No way she would want to live forever alone anyway.

I never thought I'd be so upset about this. I need hugs.


Gives you a hug. Yeah I know the feeling. They went too far :/


Thank you.
I'm still trying to understand how they could possibly think we would feel happy and rewarded with those endings.


Yeah that's the part I'm struggling to understand. Apparently Mac Walters has a very different idea of what satisfying and rewarding is to what we do. Call me old fashioned but I'd have been fine with a reasonably happy Bioware ending with varying degrees of success based on your choices. Too much time invested in the story for it to end like this.


Bad Hollywood cliffhanger for future MMOs... They think they are smart :). Probably CEOs forced them for these endings. Because the original leak allowed you to save the relays or so they say...

They are to make money not to make fans happy.

Dumb endings won't prevent this game to sell well.

And only journey matters because for mainstream players gameplay matters and plot does not matter.

Walters says otherwise it would be a player choice based customized ending. He deliberately prevented that he says, for better drama, creativity, action, tension he implies. But it should be a customized ending for each player. That is the point. It is not that hard either. If you do everything right you should have a happy ending, if you do wrong you get these unsatisfying endings ala ME2. Customized endings are not mililons of different scenarios that Bioware could not integrate.

In Star Trek 2 they tried to kill Spock. When Nimoy leaked the script Spock returned. These dumb endings are the usual Hollywood crap. Since video game industry is corrupt I am not amazed.

Bioware prorably thinks that bad overdrama is justified because outrage and surprise will also atract people.

At the end we can be sure of one thing. They thought that this game would sell well anyway and these endings would ensure other spinn-offs to sell well.

It is a company what did you expect really? What about if they anger fans? New fans will come, young people will come, we get older. We won't be the main demographic. Young people are impressed easily with the new fancy (!) they will spew (next games I mean).

Consider did poor quality Star Wars prequels destroyed Star Wars franchise or did dumb Jar-Jar made Star Wars to sell more?

We can say we are all mature and sophisticated people but at the end whatever the Mature rating says games mainly sell to children and children usually don't care about the endings, only gameplay. They aim mainstream first. Mainstream is FPS guys. The rest is embellishement to try to keep at least some RPG fans to maximize profit. We are a side note.

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Urdnot Grim wrote...

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Well, I figure it would be like in ME2, where you really need to try to get the worst ending.


HAHA now that would be a suicide mission.

Seriously, what was up with that?
They tried so hard to make it seem like a suicide mission, yet the game pretty clearly directs you towards the perfect ending.

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They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.



Actually is not BW's fault everything is because that MMO Star Wars The Old Republic they had not time for DA2 and ME3

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Jackal7713 wrote...

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They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.

Hell skyrm proved review site are worthless.  Looked at what a bugged POS that game is.


Sure, Skyrim has its share of bugs, but for an open world game, it's pretty to look at traveling across their world.  Their combat system stinks and their quests could be better, but the reviews about the graphics being really nice were pretty accurate imo.

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They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.



Actually is not BW's fault everything is because that MMO Star Wars The Old Republic they had not time for DA2 and ME3

Yes, it's not Bioware's fault that the quality of their games has declined.

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Well, I figure it would be like in ME2, where you really need to try to get the worst ending.


HAHA now that would be a suicide mission.

Seriously, what was up with that?
They tried so hard to make it seem like a suicide mission, yet the game pretty clearly directs you towards the perfect ending.

I know right? I got everyone through on my first playthrough. I've experimented around and have killed off like four people at the most, and that was especially hard. I mean, once you understand the points system each member has for the HTL segment, it becomes way too easy to choose who you want to kill off or keep alive.

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Here's some more proof about Normandy's fate for those who are still in denial:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9565134/3#9571406

Keep holding EDI, Joker - it's not for long. Normandy will shut down soon completely and EDI will just turn into a mindless tin bucket.

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Urdnot Grim wrote...

pinoy_sav wrote...

Iono I have a feeling that THOSE endings arent the only ones out there
Bioware wouldnt just do this to Us.
It could just be my optimist side but Ive been a loyal fan so this Flood of spoilers wont make me think of the game less


I have hopes that there will be more endings than these too. But we won't know until we've played it for ourselves.

Agreed once we play it well find out. However, I'm disapointed that Bioware has tried to aleast comment saying these leaks are false to a point. There are different endings based on your choices. How hard is to authorize a mod to say don't believe the leakers?

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kingsims wrote...

They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.



Actually is not BW's fault everything is because that MMO Star Wars The Old Republic they had not time for DA2 and ME3


That's not entirely true. There's at least three departments here that do these projects. EA wanted the department working on DA II to release it early to catch the sales window, and ME 3 was pushed back just to make sure they had lot's of development time. They were working on 3 long before 2 even came out.

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Aramintai wrote...

Here's some more proof about Normandy's fate for those who are still in denial:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9565134/3#9571406


I believe the reports from the folks who have played the space edition but those links don't mean anything.  The video has no audio and the screen shots are just that - screen shots from a reported ending.  Not proof that those are the only endings.

I believe there is proof out there showing these are the only endings but none of those links fit the bill.

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pinoy_sav wrote...

Iono I have a feeling that THOSE endings arent the only ones out there
Bioware wouldnt just do this to Us.
It could just be my optimist side but Ive been a loyal fan so this Flood of spoilers wont make me think of the game less


I have hopes that there will be more endings than these too. But we won't know until we've played it for ourselves.

Agreed once we play it well find out. However, I'm disapointed that Bioware has tried to aleast comment saying these leaks are false to a point. There are different endings based on your choices. How hard is to authorize a mod to say don't believe the leakers?


It's best to avoid commenting on speculation, primarily because it tends to give these people credibility they don't deserve if the info's false, and at best, since this is very sensitive information, and they already had a serious leak, it's probably a great marketing tactic to build up interest in the product. Kinda like the whole multiplayer controversy that was going on for a while. They never officially said they weren't, but they also never officially said that they were, and then we got the announcement from Priestly.

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They could pull themselves out of a hole with DA3. If they return to their old style RPG's I ll support them if they head in the right direction. If not well my money goes else where. I don't trust review sites any more after DA2. And you shouldn't trust them for Mass Effect 3.



Actually is not BW's fault everything is because that MMO Star Wars The Old Republic they had not time for DA2 and ME3


That's not entirely true. There's at least three departments here that do these projects. EA wanted the department working on DA II to release it early to catch the sales window, and ME 3 was pushed back just to make sure they had lot's of development time. They were working on 3 long before 2 even came out.


Now i know who to blame:whistle:

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With all the bad PR they are getting from these leaks, it's nothing but absolutely stupid to not comment on it, if they are false.

Reason they aren't, is to prevent pre-order cancellations.

Common sense is aweeeeesome.

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Jackal7713 wrote...

Urdnot Grim wrote...

pinoy_sav wrote...

Iono I have a feeling that THOSE endings arent the only ones out there
Bioware wouldnt just do this to Us.
It could just be my optimist side but Ive been a loyal fan so this Flood of spoilers wont make me think of the game less


I have hopes that there will be more endings than these too. But we won't know until we've played it for ourselves.

Agreed once we play it well find out. However, I'm disapointed that Bioware has tried to aleast comment saying these leaks are false to a point. There are different endings based on your choices. How hard is to authorize a mod to say don't believe the leakers?


Probably to hype the game up even more, EA is a powerhouse when it comes to games. Who says they won't Stir the pot a bit and rouse fans. It could just be a publicity stunt. Maybe Bioware Devs decline to comment because they want people to play the game so they can see for themselves. I don't know there are nfinite outcomes out of this leak. We shall see 3.6.12

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dizzymonkey_bio wrote...

Aramintai wrote...

Here's some more proof about Normandy's fate for those who are still in denial:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9565134/3#9571406


I believe the reports from the folks who have played the space edition but those links don't mean anything.  The video has no audio and the screen shots are just that - screen shots from a reported ending.  Not proof that those are the only endings.

I believe there is proof out there showing these are the only endings but none of those links fit the bill.

Denial is strong with this one :whistle: 

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pinoy_sav wrote...

Iono I have a feeling that THOSE endings arent the only ones out there
Bioware wouldnt just do this to Us.
It could just be my optimist side but Ive been a loyal fan so this Flood of spoilers wont make me think of the game less



To be fair the people like yourself who are in denial (and I don't blame you btw)... prove just how dire this situation is.

Sure some people are satisfied with a grim ending because ''it's different - it's out there! - bioware has balls!''

But this is the kinda ending a person like myself would experience once and then I'd try for something better and when I realise there's not something better I would be really p****d off.

You beat impossible odds in ME1 and ME2. Most of the mainstream or long time fans who don't want to spoil themselves are going to walk into ME3's ending with no idea that they are about to drive off a cliff. And when they get there, most are going to be universally hurt. Why Bioware would want to hurt it's fans like this is beyond me.

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