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[sabere]

BioWare is in Canada, right? Blame Canada!

[Ywasibanned]

sabere wrote...

BioWare is in Canada, right? Blame Canada!

I blame Electronic Arts.

[NaPo1eon]

Yes, but realistically speaking, in a mere few days this thread has exploded in popularity among people like myself who cancelled their pre-orders because we aren't in denial.

Now.

Imagine they confirmed that those endings are the real deal (Which we know they are.)
Then all of the people in denial or saying, "wait and play first!" would stop being oblivious and our numbers would quadruple.

That would be a sizable loss.

[pinoy_sav]

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

pinoy_sav wrote...

Iono I have a feeling that THOSE endings arent the only ones out there
Bioware wouldnt just do this to Us.
It could just be my optimist side but Ive been a loyal fan so this Flood of spoilers wont make me think of the game less

To be fair the people like yourself who are in denial (and I don't blame you btw)... prove just how dire this situation is.

Sure some people are satisfied with a grim ending because ''it's different - it's out there! - bioware has balls!''

But this is the kinda ending a person like myself would experience once and then I'd try for something better and when I realise there's not something better I would be really p****d off.

You beat impossible odds in ME1 and ME2. Most of the mainstream or long time fans who don't want to spoil themselves are going to walk into ME3's ending with no idea that they are about to drive off a cliff. And when they get there, most are going to be universally hurt. Why Bioware would want to hurt it's fans like this is beyond me.

My mood is more of a mix like "Meh oh well, at least there's multiplayer". Like I said Im just an optimist (thats always been one of my better personality traits haha) that really likes the Franchise it is what it is, if these are the endings we get, okay cool, at least it was a fun ride.

[kingsims]

90% probably have no idea about the DLC or don't care and have not seen the endings or just don't care. So they make a profit regardless. Then later you have the suckers who will buy "happy ending DLC" like us. Bioware is in a Win/Win situation right now as long they say nothing.

[Jackal7713]

NaPo1eon wrote...

With all the bad PR they are getting from these leaks, it's nothing but absolutely stupid to not comment on it, if they are false.

Reason they aren't, is to prevent pre-order cancellations.

Common sense is aweeeeesome.

 I see a condescending tone is your strong suit. Lack civility much? On the other hand Grim, thanks for a polite responce to my question. I'm glad to see some people know the meaning of civility.

Modifié par Jackal7713, 02 mars 2012 - 09:00 .

[Confused-Shepard]

Hell I wanted an ending where 10% of the Reapers survive and retreat to unexplored parts of the galaxy. The galaxy is crippled and tensions are high as the Citadel government has fallen and most species have to fend for themselves. Earth is gone, just an empty husk and Shepard vows to find the remaining Reapers who in turn would start exploiting the divided galaxy situation.

Now that would be equally depressing and realistic but not as stupid or contrived as what we get.
One ending would be similar to CONTROL except Shepard declares himself supreme overlord of the galaxy and becoming a Knight Templar character or sorts enforcing his rule with iron tentacles.

[NaPo1eon]

Jackal7713 wrote...

NaPo1eon wrote...

With all the bad PR they are getting from these leaks, it's nothing but absolutely stupid to not comment on it, if they are false.

Reason they aren't, is to prevent pre-order cancellations.

Common sense is aweeeeesome.

 I see a condescending tone is your strong suit. Lack civility much? On the other hand Grim, thanks for a polite responce to my question. I'm glad to see some people know the meaning of civility.

I wasn't talking to you in the first place, however

I'm not being condescending, I'm being realistic.
If you know people are unhappy over your product over an assumption that isn't true, of course you'd fix the assumption.   It's common sense.  Not doing it is both a bad business move, and a bad relations move.  Neither of which would make them money.

And Bioware is, you know, a business.

[dizzymonkey_bio]

Aramintai wrote...

dizzymonkey_bio wrote...

Aramintai wrote...

Here's some more proof about Normandy's fate for those who are still in denial:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9565134/3#9571406

I believe the reports from the folks who have played the space edition but those links don't mean anything.  The video has no audio and the screen shots are just that - screen shots from a reported ending.  Not proof that those are the only endings.

I believe there is proof out there showing these are the only endings but none of those links fit the bill.

Denial is strong with this one  

Not really, just show me proof.  The most I have heard so far is from the space edition players who played and the reports of the mined data.  I haven't seen the proof with my own eyes.  I believe the reports on the mined data but random screen shots and a video with no audio isn't proof that other things don't exist.  That proves that some scene (reported to be a ending) with those screen caps exists.  Apparently there is also a segment with the two moon video sequence (that likely has audio).

How exactly does that prove no other endings exist again?  Like I said before, I believe the reports on the mined data but I havent seen screen caps of the mined data or the structures.

By your standards, I can use screen caps from ME2 where shepard dies to give "proof" that Shepard never survives the SM in ME2.  If that is the only kind of "proof" you need for things in life then I have a bridge I want to sell you

I believe there are no "happy" endings in ME3 (doesn't make sense for anyone to lie about it) but you should really make sure the "proof" your providing actually holds up to more than a cursory glance and a few simple questions if you are going to push it as proof that something doesn't exist.

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

I specifically remember a Bioware person saying there was no ''off switch'' for the Reapers but fact is that's basically what the end is...

[Abram730]

albertalad wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

recentio wrote...

Alderman89 wrote...

 Big babys! stop griefing Bioware with this trivial thing.. There will be several endings, changeing on how you play..
so don't be such douchbags and cry on the forums! wait until the game comes out, before you complane!
If Bioware had any sence, they would send out copys of the game to all you who cry on the forums, with a locked ending, worst possible! where everybody dies! please! if the ending in the released game is not to your liking, well, then, suck it up! they can't please everybody. never seen so much selfishness before.. *look at me, i'm angry cause Bioware don't cater to my every needs!* grow up people!

Sure they can please everyone. It would be easy. Just have one ending where Shep and his LI and crew survive together (in a place where Tali and Garrus aren't doomed). Problem solved.

They've made a name for ME by trying to please everyone. Want MP? We'll add it. Want s/s romance? We'll add it. Want to skip conversations and just watch cutscenes? We'll add it.

So they should just add a 'live or die together' ending, and all will be well. I just can't accept having all the people Shepard cares about being torn away forever no matter what I do. That sucks.

People were very upset about Liara... what did they do?... I think they fixed that quite well. I just think you are blowing it out of proportions. I don't get why a heroic death is so repulsive to so many? It seems like not one game ever can have a heroic death without rage.  The galaxy isn't worth the crew of the Normandy?  That selfish?  It's FO3 again... How dare they force me to be a hero.. those jerks.

Heroic death? There is nothing heroic in death - just death. It is far more difficult to live with the aftermath of the Reapers then to somehow, in this case forced on everyone by BW, rebuild life from the devestation. That's the hard part - death is the easy way of of the real struggle yet to come.

Yes there IS something HEROIC in being willing to die for what you believe in.  If you can't imagine it then there must be nothing you feel is worth dying for.  Not even the entire galaxy.

What would the Mass effect universe look like if it was only your thinking?
Geth wouldn't be free because that would involve death... Life > freedom.
Nobody would fight the reapers as they'd all be in line to get indoctrinated.. Life > freedom
Sheperd would of quit as soon as people started shooting at him.  These people mean business lets go home before somebody gets hurt..  Every man for himself!!!  run!!!

[Maialeth]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

BlackAdder117 wrote...

@tresnogger

Well at least you admitted to trolling us!

But these endings have left a bitter taste in my mouth. What's wrong with being together with you're crew? What's wrong with having to rebuild society with your LI? Or even end up with the crew in some way...at least together.

Yes, the Reapers are powerful. Yes, there will be losses. Yes, I know it has to be realistic. But that doesn't mean that you can having both Shepard and Co. getting separated.

Bloody hell, I hope BioWare listen to us fans who want an alternate ending to all this, because I'm seriously considering cancelling my pre-order goddammit!

I already did. This still feels like a kick in the balls. I'll never be able to look at the first two titles the same way again. Tali was my canon shep's LI. The least traumatic outcome I could probably manufacture would be getting her and Garrus killed prior to the endgame, just to spare them the fate of starvation on Gilligan's Planet. Shepard then dies in the end. At least you could say they'd be together.

Completely unnecessary, Bioware. What the f*** were you thinking?

My Malesheps LI too. Though I'm going with.. Either Control or Merge I think.. That way, Most tech still works, and thus.. disembodied Shep mind can send rescues after the crew, and even if we may not be together traditionally.. They're all still alive. Either that or a Destroy ending, with Shep alive.. and At least Distress beacons and com works.. so that The crew can call for help and get it.. and eventually through FTL, even though it may take a bit of time, they'll be reunited. I reject their endings and substitute my own..

[G3rman]

Shepard wants to stop the reapers because they are a danger to the galaxy but I don't remember anywhere he states he is fanatical about it.

He was thrust into this role and doesn't really want it after all this time. Why should he feel compelled to die?

[Jackal7713]

NaPo1eon wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

NaPo1eon wrote...

With all the bad PR they are getting from these leaks, it's nothing but absolutely stupid to not comment on it, if they are false.

Reason they aren't, is to prevent pre-order cancellations.

Common sense is aweeeeesome.

 I see a condescending tone is your strong suit. Lack civility much? On the other hand Grim, thanks for a polite responce to my question. I'm glad to see some people know the meaning of civility.

I wasn't talking to you in the first place, however

I'm not being condescending, I'm being realistic.
If you know people are unhappy over your product over an assumption that isn't true, of course you'd fix the assumption.   It's common sense.  Not doing it is both a bad business move, and a bad relations move.  Neither of which would make them money.

And Bioware is, you know, a business.

My apologies I mistook your responce to be directed toward my question. Thank you for clarifying your your statement.

[kingsims]

The 7th ending either does not exist or is totally in game cut-scene which can only be the perfect ending they keep going on about. But i find this highly unlikely unless you need the guide to get it.

Modifié par kingsims, 02 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[Jackal7713]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

NaPo1eon wrote...

Yes, but realistically speaking, in a mere few days this thread has exploded in popularity among people like myself who cancelled their pre-orders because we aren't in denial.

Now.

Imagine they confirmed that those endings are the real deal (Which we know they are.)
Then all of the people in denial or saying, "wait and play first!" would stop being oblivious and our numbers would quadruple.

That would be a sizable loss.

They have hundreds of thousands of fans, if not more. A few hundred people complaining on BSN isn't going to do much to hurt them.

EDIT: They've got three days before this drops. Do you really think they're going to waste their time confirming or disavowing this? If they do, they've got cojones.

But grim would you say a few hundred people disliked what happened with DA2?

[NaPo1eon]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

NaPo1eon wrote...

Yes, but realistically speaking, in a mere few days this thread has exploded in popularity among people like myself who cancelled their pre-orders because we aren't in denial.

Now.

Imagine they confirmed that those endings are the real deal (Which we know they are.)
Then all of the people in denial or saying, "wait and play first!" would stop being oblivious and our numbers would quadruple.

That would be a sizable loss.

They have hundreds of thousands of fans, if not more. A few hundred people complaining on BSN isn't going to do much to hurt them.

With DA 2 and now the endings of ME 3, they are creating a track record to lose a nice fraction of that fanbase.  
Short-term, it'll effect them barely.
They've already hurt themselves for future sales, but I dare them to make the same mistake again.  Then even the people in denial will be wiser next time.

[sabere]

Abram730 wrote...



Yes there IS something HEROIC in being willing to die for what you believe in.  If you can't imagine it then there must be nothing you feel is worth dying for.  Not even the entire galaxy.

What would the Mass effect universe look like if it was only your thinking?
Geth wouldn't be free because that would involve death... Life > freedom.
Nobody would fight the reapers as they'd all be in line to get indoctrinated.. Life > freedom
Sheperd would of quit as soon as people started shooting at him.  These people mean business lets go home before somebody gets hurt..  Every man for himself!!!  run!!!

I don't think there's anything wrong with what you've said.  In fact, it makes perfect sense.  But what I think most people here are displeased about is the fact that we all play these immersive RPG games to escape for a few hours from the real world.  Many people even get attached to their characers almost like sports fans get attached to a team, rooting them on to victory.  Just like in sports, we can't win them all, but it would be nice to have at least the possibility to make it to the end and come out a winner. 

Modifié par sabere, 02 mars 2012 - 09:19 .

[kingsims]

Your forgetting SWTOR most fans say they should have stuck with KOTOR 3 and ended the story for Revan but they screwed that up as well in SWTOR.