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#73451
Iucounou

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Feraiin wrote...

Replayed ME1. Just to confirm I didn't miss anything pointing toward the Synthetics vs. Organics conflict as final conflict.

Do you know how often it is mentioned explicitly in those words? Once.

In a sidequest on the citadel that I never picked up on until the 4th playthrough.


Yes, I did the same recently. Throughout the playback there's no hint of a godchild or controlling force behind the Reapers. I kept thinking:

Why did the Reapers leave Sovereign behind to keep track of the progress of the races if the godchild is right there, in the Citadel, able to see how they were doing?

If godchild controls the Reapers does that mean Sovereign was a rogue Reaper? If not, then why didn't the godchild activate the Citadel's mass relay and allow the Reapers through?

That's the problem with hindsight. It's always 20/20. None of it makes any sense.

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Additional epilog...does not fix the ending. FIX THE DANG crap R/G/B ending or the Bioware brand dies for me, I will never pay for any product that bares your brand.

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Fix the ending. Do not clarify. Say goodbye to your core fan base forever.

Or stick to your LIE that you value your artistic integrity. Everything you said leading up to ME3 goes against this argument and what was promised for the game.

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Everybody's seen Bioware's blog post here already, right?

blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut/

Because I hadn't until just now.  And I just - ugh.  I honestly would like to be optimistic, but they've gone to so much work to drive home the fact that the endings will not be different, just longer, that I have to believe them.  In which case, it doesn't matter how extended they make the game because I'm still not going to play it.

Said it before - if all they're doing is adding content to prove that everything works out "fine" in their endings, they might as well just add another pop-up message to the existing game that says "p.s. everything turns out okay!" and forget about it.

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Rdubs wrote...

DJ and all - sorry of this has been posted before but this is a MUST read for everyone here if you want the developers to listen to us. Strongly recommend to add to Mr. Bond's link dump.

http://www.forbes.co...erica-now-what/


Read it, commented on it...had comment called out.

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What did I miss?
(Been standing in the kitchen)

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I need to give them my all of my hard earned cash right away!


I hope this is just an irony, right?

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toffeetrooper wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

OK everyone I better get off to bed. I have to brave the real world tomorrow, it could be dangerous so I need my rest lol.

Night all.

Hold The Line and Wallets :)


Night night-_-


will do



happy wet dreams :)

#73459
Mr Chr15topher

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I probably won't even download the endings, just watch them on youtube, because I can't face using the character I have spent 100+ hours lovingly crafting to speak to Starchild again.

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On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:

"Um, Hey Bioware..."

"Hey! How is my favorite Loyal Fan doing today?"

"Fine... but, Bioware, we need to talk."

"I don't think I like how that sounds."

"Then you're not going to like what I have to say."

"What?! You're breaking up with me, aren't you?!"

"What we have between us, Bioware, it's just not working out anymore."

"This is about the ending to Mass Effect 3, isn't it?"

"Yes. It is. It's not just the ending though, it's how you've treated me throughout this entire ordeal."

"...but, but, I'm giving you an Extended Cut! It's going clarify everything! It'll add cinematics! I listened to you!"

"C'mon Bioware, don't make this harder than it has to be... we both know that's not really true. You're giving me this 'stuff' to pacify me - like I was a little child. You didn't listen to me - you were tired of hearing me."

"...you can't quit me on me now! I have years of DLC planned for us - for Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 3!"

"Bioware, let's not talk about Dragon Age, okay? You know better."

"I really don't understand what your problem with Dragon Age 2 is..."

"I know you don't Bioware, and that's part of why this isn't working out. Look, we've had wonderful times together - Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, the first Mass Effect - and Dragon Age Origins... after that, I thought that we were going to be together for forever... but things changed - you started hanging out with EA and our relationship became less and less important to you."

"Hey, leave EA out of this! They're..."

"...the worst company in America, Bioware. THE worst. They got an 'award' for that, you know."

"So, that's it for us?"

"I don't know, Bioware. I don't. You've hurt me and I feel betrayed. Marginalized. Swept aside. Dismissed.  It's clear that your accelerated development cycles, quarterly sales reports, and 'artistic integrity' are more important to you than I am. Me - your loyal fan. I think... I think I need to patronize other developers for a while, you know? Get back out there and rediscover my love of gaming again. It will give you time to get yourself sorted out. If we're meant to be, we're meant to be... but, it's just not in the stars for us right now."

"What we have is too special to just walk away from. You'll be back, Loyal Fan. I know you will."

"I hope so, Bioware. I sincerely hope so."

On the next episode of of "Days of our Developers" - Temperatures flare and tensions rise at a fateful day at PAX East! Will Bioware and their loyal fans reunite? Will their relationship be doomed forever? Watch and find out!

"Days of our Developers" is brought to you by Space Magic:wizard:

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Dan Rosse wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I need to give them my all of my hard earned cash right away!


I hope this is just an irony, right?


Yeah. Don't worry, I haven't gone mad just yet. I have already vowed not to buy anything from Bioware until they fix the endings.

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Astralify wrote...

I'm still here, I'm still holding the line, and I'm still F**KING MAD!


points to 3 lines:

line 1 )- f**king pissed off

line 2)- f**king mad

line 3)- f**king pissed off mad


take your pick  but this time there all one colour..........also bring your own weapons.

WE GOT SCREWED OVER

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sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:

"Um, Hey Bioware..."

"Hey! How is my favorite Loyal Fan doing today?"

"Fine... but, Bioware, we need to talk."

"I don't think I like how that sounds."

"Then you're not going to like what I have to say."

"What?! You're breaking up with me, aren't you?!"

"What we have between us, Bioware, it's just not working out anymore."

"This is about the ending to Mass Effect 3, isn't it?"

"Yes. It is. It's not just the ending though, it's how you've treated me throughout this entire ordeal."

"...but, but, I'm giving you an Extended Cut! It's going clarify everything! It'll add cinematics! I listened to you!"

"C'mon Bioware, don't make this harder than it has to be... we both know that's not really true. You're giving me this 'stuff' to pacify me - like I was a little child. You didn't listen to me - you were tired of hearing me."

"...you can't quit me on me now! I have years of DLC planned for us - for Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 3!"

"Bioware, let's not talk about Dragon Age, okay? You know better."

"I really don't understand what your problem with Dragon Age 2 is..."

"I know you don't Bioware, and that's part of why this isn't working out. Look, we've had wonderful times together - Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, the first Mass Effect - and Dragon Age Origins... after that, I thought that we were going to be together for forever... but things changed - you started hanging out with EA and our relationship became less and less important to you."

"Hey, leave EA out of this! They're..."

"...the worst company in America, Bioware. THE worst. They got an 'award' for that, you know."

"So, that's it for us?"

"I don't know, Bioware. I don't. You've hurt me and I feel betrayed. Marginalized. Swept aside. Dismissed.  It's clear that your accelerated development cycles, quarterly sales reports, and 'artistic integrity' are more important to you than I am. Me - your loyal fan. I think... I think I need to patronize other developers for a while, you know? Get back out there and rediscover my love of gaming again. It will give you time to get yourself sorted out. If we're meant to be, we're meant to be... but, it's just not in the stars for us right now."

"What we have is too special to just walk away from. You'll be back, Loyal Fan. I know you will."

"I hope so, Bioware. I sincerely hope so."

On the next episode of of "Days of our Developers" - Temperatures flare and tensions rise at a fateful day at PAX East! Will Bioware and their loyal fans reunite? Will their relationship be doomed forever? Watch and find out!

"Days of our Developers" is brought to you by Space Magic:wizard:



THIS ^^^^
made me laugh so hard  LOL
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#73464
ARCTIC EAGLE

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EPIC LOLZ

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sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:

"Um, Hey Bioware..."

"Hey! How is my favorite Loyal Fan doing today?"

"Fine... but, Bioware, we need to talk."

"I don't think I like how that sounds."

"Then you're not going to like what I have to say."

"What?! You're breaking up with me, aren't you?!"

"What we have between us, Bioware, it's just not working out anymore."

"This is about the ending to Mass Effect 3, isn't it?"

"Yes. It is. It's not just the ending though, it's how you've treated me throughout this entire ordeal."

"...but, but, I'm giving you an Extended Cut! It's going clarify everything! It'll add cinematics! I listened to you!"

"C'mon Bioware, don't make this harder than it has to be... we both know that's not really true. You're giving me this 'stuff' to pacify me - like I was a little child. You didn't listen to me - you were tired of hearing me."

"...you can't quit me on me now! I have years of DLC planned for us - for Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 3!"

"Bioware, let's not talk about Dragon Age, okay? You know better."

"I really don't understand what your problem with Dragon Age 2 is..."

"I know you don't Bioware, and that's part of why this isn't working out. Look, we've had wonderful times together - Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, the first Mass Effect - and Dragon Age Origins... after that, I thought that we were going to be together for forever... but things changed - you started hanging out with EA and our relationship became less and less important to you."

"Hey, leave EA out of this! They're..."

"...the worst company in America, Bioware. THE worst. They got an 'award' for that, you know."

"So, that's it for us?"

"I don't know, Bioware. I don't. You've hurt me and I feel betrayed. Marginalized. Swept aside. Dismissed.  It's clear that your accelerated development cycles, quarterly sales reports, and 'artistic integrity' are more important to you than I am. Me - your loyal fan. I think... I think I need to patronize other developers for a while, you know? Get back out there and rediscover my love of gaming again. It will give you time to get yourself sorted out. If we're meant to be, we're meant to be... but, it's just not in the stars for us right now."

"What we have is too special to just walk away from. You'll be back, Loyal Fan. I know you will."

"I hope so, Bioware. I sincerely hope so."

On the next episode of of "Days of our Developers" - Temperatures flare and tensions rise at a fateful day at PAX East! Will Bioware and their loyal fans reunite? Will their relationship be doomed forever? Watch and find out!

"Days of our Developers" is brought to you by Space Magic:wizard:

Lol this should be a blog

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Mr Chr15topher

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sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:
(snip)


This is brilliant! lol'd so hard it made my cat jump :D

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sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:

"Um, Hey Bioware..."

"Hey! How is my favorite Loyal Fan doing today?"

"Fine... but, Bioware, we need to talk."

"I don't think I like how that sounds."

"Then you're not going to like what I have to say."

"What?! You're breaking up with me, aren't you?!"

"What we have between us, Bioware, it's just not working out anymore."

"This is about the ending to Mass Effect 3, isn't it?"

"Yes. It is. It's not just the ending though, it's how you've treated me throughout this entire ordeal."

"...but, but, I'm giving you an Extended Cut! It's going clarify everything! It'll add cinematics! I listened to you!"

"C'mon Bioware, don't make this harder than it has to be... we both know that's not really true. You're giving me this 'stuff' to pacify me - like I was a little child. You didn't listen to me - you were tired of hearing me."

"...you can't quit me on me now! I have years of DLC planned for us - for Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 3!"

"Bioware, let's not talk about Dragon Age, okay? You know better."

"I really don't understand what your problem with Dragon Age 2 is..."

"I know you don't Bioware, and that's part of why this isn't working out. Look, we've had wonderful times together - Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, the first Mass Effect - and Dragon Age Origins... after that, I thought that we were going to be together for forever... but things changed - you started hanging out with EA and our relationship became less and less important to you."

"Hey, leave EA out of this! They're..."

"...the worst company in America, Bioware. THE worst. They got an 'award' for that, you know."

"So, that's it for us?"

"I don't know, Bioware. I don't. You've hurt me and I feel betrayed. Marginalized. Swept aside. Dismissed.  It's clear that your accelerated development cycles, quarterly sales reports, and 'artistic integrity' are more important to you than I am. Me - your loyal fan. I think... I think I need to patronize other developers for a while, you know? Get back out there and rediscover my love of gaming again. It will give you time to get yourself sorted out. If we're meant to be, we're meant to be... but, it's just not in the stars for us right now."

"What we have is too special to just walk away from. You'll be back, Loyal Fan. I know you will."

"I hope so, Bioware. I sincerely hope so."

On the next episode of of "Days of our Developers" - Temperatures flare and tensions rise at a fateful day at PAX East! Will Bioware and their loyal fans reunite? Will their relationship be doomed forever? Watch and find out!

"Days of our Developers" is brought to you by Space Magic:wizard:


Oooh~ you better right another one like this.

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sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:

"Um, Hey Bioware..."

"Hey! How is my favorite Loyal Fan doing today?"

"Fine... but, Bioware, we need to talk."

"I don't think I like how that sounds."

"Then you're not going to like what I have to say."

"What?! You're breaking up with me, aren't you?!"

"What we have between us, Bioware, it's just not working out anymore."

"This is about the ending to Mass Effect 3, isn't it?"

"Yes. It is. It's not just the ending though, it's how you've treated me throughout this entire ordeal."

"...but, but, I'm giving you an Extended Cut! It's going clarify everything! It'll add cinematics! I listened to you!"

"C'mon Bioware, don't make this harder than it has to be... we both know that's not really true. You're giving me this 'stuff' to pacify me - like I was a little child. You didn't listen to me - you were tired of hearing me."

"...you can't quit me on me now! I have years of DLC planned for us - for Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 3!"

"Bioware, let's not talk about Dragon Age, okay? You know better."

"I really don't understand what your problem with Dragon Age 2 is..."

"I know you don't Bioware, and that's part of why this isn't working out. Look, we've had wonderful times together - Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, the first Mass Effect - and Dragon Age Origins... after that, I thought that we were going to be together for forever... but things changed - you started hanging out with EA and our relationship became less and less important to you."

"Hey, leave EA out of this! They're..."

"...the worst company in America, Bioware. THE worst. They got an 'award' for that, you know."

"So, that's it for us?"

"I don't know, Bioware. I don't. You've hurt me and I feel betrayed. Marginalized. Swept aside. Dismissed.  It's clear that your accelerated development cycles, quarterly sales reports, and 'artistic integrity' are more important to you than I am. Me - your loyal fan. I think... I think I need to patronize other developers for a while, you know? Get back out there and rediscover my love of gaming again. It will give you time to get yourself sorted out. If we're meant to be, we're meant to be... but, it's just not in the stars for us right now."

"What we have is too special to just walk away from. You'll be back, Loyal Fan. I know you will."

"I hope so, Bioware. I sincerely hope so."

On the next episode of of "Days of our Developers" - Temperatures flare and tensions rise at a fateful day at PAX East! Will Bioware and their loyal fans reunite? Will their relationship be doomed forever? Watch and find out!

"Days of our Developers" is brought to you by Space Magic:wizard:


Win.

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sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:
(snip)


lol

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BW: Ah, yes. "Players"…

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Cybermortis

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sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:


I'm guessing a future episode involves Bioware sprawled out on the couch in a dirty vest, surrounded by empty bottles of beer. And muttering how this is all the 'Fans' fault, how they were never understood and how they don't need no stinking 'Fans' to make them happy.

Modifié par Cybermortis, 06 avril 2012 - 03:31 .


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Cybermortis wrote...

sumillebonus wrote...

On today's episode of "Days of our Developers" - faltering developer Bioware gets a healthy dose of reality from his Loyal Fan:


I'm guessing a future episode involves Bioware sprawled out on the couch in a dirty vest, surrounded by empty bottles of beer. And muttering how this is all the 'Fans' fault, how they were never understood and how they don't need no stinking 'Fans' to make them happy.


In the not too distant future.

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Dan Rosse wrote...

BW: Ah, yes. "Players"…


Players, *looks at figures from Origin*. We have dismissed that claim.

*Flash forward to look at sales figures for DLC and DA3* Customers, yes we have dismissed that claim.

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Iucounou wrote...

Feraiin wrote...

Replayed ME1. Just to confirm I didn't miss anything pointing toward the Synthetics vs. Organics conflict as final conflict.

Do you know how often it is mentioned explicitly in those words? Once.

In a sidequest on the citadel that I never picked up on until the 4th playthrough.


Yes, I did the same recently. Throughout the playback there's no hint of a godchild or controlling force behind the Reapers. I kept thinking:

Why did the Reapers leave Sovereign behind to keep track of the progress of the races if the godchild is right there, in the Citadel, able to see how they were doing?

If godchild controls the Reapers does that mean Sovereign was a rogue Reaper? If not, then why didn't the godchild activate the Citadel's mass relay and allow the Reapers through?

That's the problem with hindsight. It's always 20/20. None of it makes any sense.


I have an answer for you...

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Off to watch Bones. Might be back later to direct sarcastic comments in a suitable direction.