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[Jere85]

toffeetrooper wrote...

got 3 blogs running now dont know were to look

3 monitors ftw

[Computim]

GroverA125 wrote...

From what we know from people in the room, nobody has automatic rifles, so worst case scenario there'll only be a few bruises and broken bones should a riot break out. We also appear to have arrived in force, several people are claiming we definitely have a good number in there dis-satisfied. Now we all have to hope that nothing turns to violence, but it's good to know that we have men on our side, defending our honour in there.

There are krogan present... they require no weapons...they ARE weapons.

[sumo390]

GroverA125 wrote...

From what we know from people in the room, nobody has automatic rifles, so worst case scenario there'll only be a few bruises and broken bones should a riot break out. We also appear to have arrived in force, several people are claiming we definitely have a good number in there dis-satisfied. Now we all have to hope that nothing turns to violence, but it's good to know that we have men on our side, defending our honour in there.

Some vocal chants would be nice if the panel brings up "artistic integrity"

[mr.surv]

3 choices

[Atrocity]

Computim wrote...

If it makes you feel better.. I think we brought down the multiplayer servers too by accident .. that or it's completely unrelated rofl

Nope, it was your pyramids getting so high a passing satellite crashed, thus taking down the connection to EA's servers 

[Chatboy 91]

toffeetrooper wrote...

got 3 blogs running now dont know were to look

Same here, one running on my desktop, two on my laptop!

[AllegedVixEo]

[quote]CitizenSnips28 wrote...

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[quote]Lestatman wrote...



Got it... So, it's only art if you approve of it.

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Ah I love these folks who still insist Bioware is some starving beret laden artist painting a self expressionist piece in their studio and not a company with a few hundred people working on a mass marketed product to make a profit. Video games are a product first and art second. Easy to prove really. If ME1 had tanked, do you think there would have been an ME2 and 3? Yeah probably not. These products NEED to be sold or they don't exist. In your Apple example, you really think Apple would have stuck to their guns if they started losing serious money to the point where it was no longer profitable to offer a product? Again probably not.

Even assuming this IS art, some people seem to live in a strange naive world where art never changed indeed CANNOT change, and that's just false. Alot of the best know works of art were tweaked and adjusted by their creators. To say that art cannot be changed is to assume that art has to be static. That once an artist creates something to express himself he cannot change his mind or decide to look at something in a new light. This is a false purist assumption which is especially false in storytelling art as books, plays, movies and I guess now video games. Its very common for say movies to re edit after screenings to get peoples reaction. Video games have the beta testing process, books get rewrites, etc. Its simply a silly notion that art happens in a vacuum, ESPECIALLY when you get away from self expressionist art and into entertainment products.

In the end though, I may agree more than I seem to be. Truth is Bioware DOES own the rights to its story and product. If they wanted to end the game by having a clown jump out and flip everyone the bird followed by a message detailing how much Bioware hates its fans that would be well within their rights (unless you want to look at it from a false advertising perspective, which I'm not getting into). Detractors don't understand what the Retake movement is. Trust me, we know its ultimately Bioware product. Our demands are nothing more than strong fan feedback. Its an ultimatum to change.their product it lose our business. Nothing more complicated than that. Our demands don't come with legal teeth nor are we literally threatening to do anything to them beyond what is our right to do (take business elsewhere). And sorry for the late post. Just got here.[/quote]

Do you think that a painter who cannot sell his work can continue to afford to paint?  No.  Does that mean he shouldn't have final say in what his art is? No.

As far as "living in a naive world" where art is static, that's not what I was insinuating at all.  Art can be changed, but at the discression of the artist.  You don't see too many movies come out, bomb, and then the directors go back and change the movie to make it more palatable for the audience.  That's it! Maybe the retake movement just isn't setting its scope wide enough.  It shouldn't stop at ME3.  Maybe it could expand to other games, and even other forms of media!  Movies, music, hell..Even books!  Why not?  

I don't remember people getting this upset when they died of dysentary in Oregon Trail.  That was a real downer.

[Phoenix NL]

toffeetrooper wrote...

got 3 blogs running now dont know were to look

Only at me obviously!

[LazarusMP]

Whoops, this panel is actually about Jade Empire. My bad...
by press_pause_radio @ 4:56 pm

Jade Empire???

[RussianOrc]

Jere85 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

got 3 blogs running now dont know were to look

3 monitors ftw

A red a blue and a green but in the end they are all the same...

[Computim]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Computim wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

How is it possible that main BW site is down, and BSN is not?

I suspect they're on different webservers.  BSN is probably on its own cluster, and ME3/BiowareTV (I suspect Dragon Age site is probably on those same servers, someone can check if it's down) on their own box... which is now overloaded.

Should have set up auto fail-over

They probably had Network Load Balacing going.. but that only works if you have enough boxes to actually handle ALL the load hahaha.

[isig]

sumo390 wrote...

isig wrote...

So, apparently there is "no audio or video sadly for those asking. No media inside the panel". Found that posted here: http://www.presspauseradio.com/presspauseradio/2012/4/6/pax-east-2012-bioware-and-mass-effect.html

Also, someone wrote in the comments they heard that people outside the event were chanting Marauder Shields.  

Sounds like they want to censor any signs of the movement who aren't going to blindly submit to space magic

That, and this way they can pull the usual PR crap much easier.. "we were happy to meet our fans and appreciate how much everyone loved the game" blah blah blah

Also, I kind of doubt they'll be getting any real heat from the audience, even if they did prepare for the worst. Mood is always so mellow at these types of events (at least all the ones I went to).

Modifié par isig, 06 avril 2012 - 09:02 .

[Cybermortis]

Jere85 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

got 3 blogs running now dont know were to look

3 monitors ftw

Are they colour coded for our convenience?

[Phoenix NL]

Computim wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

From what we know from people in the room, nobody has automatic rifles, so worst case scenario there'll only be a few bruises and broken bones should a riot break out. We also appear to have arrived in force, several people are claiming we definitely have a good number in there dis-satisfied. Now we all have to hope that nothing turns to violence, but it's good to know that we have men on our side, defending our honour in there.

There are krogan present... they require no weapons...they ARE weapons.

One of my favorite lines - "I don't need luck, I have ammo!"

[TamiBx]

Atrocity wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

mCorfe wrote...

nonsense, there is only one shepard - male with default face.

Man, now I know why I killed all the Krogan allies in my games 

Aww, meanie, I could never do that, not with Steve Blum doing VA for Krogans. His voice does wonders to me. I truly did consider a possibility of me being totally 100% straight with no bi-tendencies whatsoever thanks to Bulletstorm.

That was a joke, guys lol
He said he doesn't like FemShep, so I picked on his profile pic. 
I got all the best outcomes...not that it made any difference in the end, but you know what I mean

[Phoenix NL]

Cybermortis wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

got 3 blogs running now dont know were to look

3 monitors ftw

Are they colour coded for our convenience?

No they left them open to interpretation for our confusion convenience.

[toffeetrooper]

its about jade empire...... joke theirs not mine bioware is feeling brave

[Jere85]

Cybermortis wrote...
Are they colour coded for our convenience?

haha, im afraid not.

[oneword]

wow, there a lot of people
shame there's no live stream

[Chatboy 91]

Priestly is up.

[Jere85]

Priestly speaks! i know... i should shut up... im just excited...

[Cybermortis]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

got 3 blogs running now dont know were to look

3 monitors ftw

Are they colour coded for our convenience?

No they left them open to interpretation for our confusion convenience.

But I guess it doesn't matter, as all three will be near identical...And now that I think of it that is probably VERY close to the truth...

[Phoenix NL]

Computim wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Computim wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

How is it possible that main BW site is down, and BSN is not?

I suspect they're on different webservers.  BSN is probably on its own cluster, and ME3/BiowareTV (I suspect Dragon Age site is probably on those same servers, someone can check if it's down) on their own box... which is now overloaded.

Should have set up auto fail-over

They probably had Network Load Balacing going.. but that only works if you have enough boxes to actually handle ALL the load hahaha.

This is why you prepare for times when you know the you're going to get peak load..... seriously, why are we not running their IT?

[Atrocity]

TamiBx wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Aww, meanie, I could never do that, not with Steve Blum doing VA for Krogans. His voice does wonders to me. I truly did consider a possibility of me being totally 100% straight with no bi-tendencies whatsoever thanks to Bulletstorm.

That was a joke, guys lol
He said he doesn't like FemShep, so I picked on his profile pic. 
I got all the best outcomes...not that it made any difference in the end, but you know what I mean

I knew it was a joke, but you see, it was over 2 pages from my last sad sexual reference post, and gal's got a reputation to maintain 

[Computim]

Panel starting!